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In reply to the discussion: Carville says election 'wouldn't have been close' if Biden dropped out in 2023 [View all]In It to Win It
(10,432 posts)90. Agreed. I got sooo much pushback for simply saying his age has become an election issue
We just could not avoid the conversation about his, and I wasn't even say anything negative about his age. I was saying then that we can't pretend the age issue doesn't exist, and people were basically telling me to shut the fuck up... and especially on this site.
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Carville says election 'wouldn't have been close' if Biden dropped out in 2023 [View all]
everyonematters
Jan 2025
OP
When Biden was selected in 2020 even I knew 2024 was going to be a problem due to his age. But I didn't
dem4decades
Jan 2025
#2
+1. Many had the same concern - Biden wasn't their first choice for that reason alone
dalton99a
Jan 2025
#38
In 2020, I thought Joe Biden himself would have chosen not to run for re-election.
In It to Win It
Jan 2025
#89
Not only that, it was a question the campaign knew was going to be asked, yet they still weren't prepared with an answer
MichMan
Jan 2025
#83
And did you mention that to anyone in 2023 James? I think not. Part of the group think too.
dutch777
Jan 2025
#7
I think she ran the best campaign she could given the time she had. Our course correction should have...
dutch777
Jan 2025
#98
Agreed. I got sooo much pushback for simply saying his age has become an election issue
In It to Win It
Jan 2025
#90
The problem with all of these people is they still can't see influence of social media
JI7
Jan 2025
#14
Instead of all of this second guessing we need someone to show us how to counter all the social media lies....
groundloop
Jan 2025
#18
I wish Carville would STFU. It seems he's always ready to put his ugly puss in front of a camera and take
Vinca
Jan 2025
#21
No, he is not. People need to quit even listening or reading one thing he says. n/t
valleyrogue
Jan 2025
#50
Nope, Biden's poor debate performance had almost no impact on voter preference, report says
krawhitham
Jan 2025
#80
So voters that weren't inclined to vote for Biden weren't swayed to vote for him after his poor performance?
dem4decades
Jan 2025
#92
Are you that easily swayed that one debate performance makes so much difference?
travelingthrulife
Jan 2025
#94
we're not talking about me, we're talking about those voters that were swayable.
dem4decades
Jan 2025
#95
If "ifs' and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas-John Boehner
Midnight Writer
Jan 2025
#32
Polls consistently showed for over a year that most Democrats wanted a different candidate than Biden
Tom Rinaldo
Jan 2025
#93
Carville is dead nuts wrong. The debate sealed the deal. Biden would not have won.
Firestorm49
Jan 2025
#37
Wrong. Biden would have won regardless if certain elements hadn't forced him out.
valleyrogue
Jan 2025
#46
Yes, he is, and his part in the debacle should make him retire from public life. n/t
valleyrogue
Jan 2025
#48
The election wouldn't have been close if he had not been forced out to begin with.
valleyrogue
Jan 2025
#45
I'm sure he has an excellent record in forecasting last week's weather as well. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Jan 2025
#53
If you can't predict elections in the real universe, focus on hypothetical alternate universes instead! nt
Shermann
Jan 2025
#54
If Biden would have won, then why is it bad she said she agreed with what Biden did?
nini
Jan 2025
#55
Hey, Jimmy, here's something more productive for you to do: organize Democratic media
JHB
Jan 2025
#59
It wouldn't have been close if people had thought about the election a little more, either.
MineralMan
Jan 2025
#61
I prefer to believe Carville on this. It's better than accepting voters prefered trump over our best candidates.
Silent Type
Jan 2025
#62
We never had a primary (a normal length one, not some crazy rush job) to pick our best candidate. nt
Celerity
Jan 2025
#64
Maybe, just maybe, if the top messengers in our party had done a better job...
3catwoman3
Jan 2025
#66
He says this stuff to get under Trump's skin. I don't have a problem with this. nt
Quixote1818
Jan 2025
#67
He's probably right. I think it might have given the party a chance to do a primary.
harumph
Jan 2025
#71