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Carville says election 'wouldn't have been close' if Biden dropped out in 2023 [View all] everyonematters Jan 4 OP

Carville needs to stfu and go away. Imo, of course. n/t demmiblue Jan 4 #1

He's right this time though. A year and half to campaign against a convicted... brush Jan 4 #76

He can be tactless and abrupt, but he's right in this case. lees1975 Jan 4 #88

When Biden was selected in 2020 even I knew 2024 was going to be a problem due to his age. But I didn't dem4decades Jan 4 #2

I had some hope he would do the noble thing in 2020 Bluetus Jan 4 #26

+1. Many had the same concern - Biden wasn't their first choice for that reason alone dalton99a Jan 4 #38

In 2020, I thought Joe Biden himself would have chosen not to run for re-election. In It to Win It Jan 4 #89

Unverifiable reverse-soothsaying is an amazing skill to have, I guess. nt Gore1FL Jan 4 #3

So how should,or could, she answer the question? GusBob Jan 4 #4

Not only that, it was a question the campaign knew was going to be asked, yet they still weren't prepared with an answer MichMan Jan 4 #83

Of course it was more than one question GusBob Jan 5 #97

More BS again! ananda Jan 4 #5

F**K YOU Carville. JohnSJ Jan 4 #6

And did you mention that to anyone in 2023 James? I think not. Part of the group think too. dutch777 Jan 4 #7

I agree GusBob Jan 4 #13

I think she ran the best campaign she could given the time she had. Our course correction should have... dutch777 Jan 5 #98

Shut up! Clouds Passing Jan 4 #8

obsolete person makes obsolete noise NewHendoLib Jan 4 #9

With a finger in the wind, mahina Jan 4 #29

Carville's probably right. sop Jan 4 #10

The problem is that in 2023 we couldn't even debate this Buckeyeblue Jan 4 #35

Agreed. I got sooo much pushback for simply saying his age has become an election issue In It to Win It Jan 4 #90

Easily won ? No, we were never going to win easily JI7 Jan 4 #11

And America would be far better off if BoRaGard Jan 4 #12

The problem with all of these people is they still can't see influence of social media JI7 Jan 4 #14

Carville wouldn't look and sound like a shaved goat Conjuay Jan 4 #15

What do we have to do to get these types to stfu and go away. onecaliberal Jan 4 #16

As if I give a shit about anything Carville has to say. (nt) Paladin Jan 4 #17

Instead of all of this second guessing we need someone to show us how to counter all the social media lies.... groundloop Jan 4 #18

This all day mahina Jan 4 #30

I can't imagine a less important statement from a less relevant person Prairie Gates Jan 4 #19

+1000. (nt) Paladin Jan 4 #47

I thought he was going to go away and yet here he is. milestogo Jan 4 #20

I wish Carville would STFU. It seems he's always ready to put his ugly puss in front of a camera and take Vinca Jan 4 #21

Biden should have done more pressers LSparkle Jan 4 #22

Interesting GusBob Jan 4 #23

I generally don't agree with Carville but in this case he's right Ritabert Jan 4 #24

No, he is not. People need to quit even listening or reading one thing he says. n/t valleyrogue Jan 4 #50

I don't know if we would have won, but it would have been better EdmondDantes_ Jan 4 #58

I don't believe in censorship. I prefer to listen to a wide variety totodeinhere Jan 4 #60

Why? nt Southern_gent Jan 4 #73

Nope, Biden's poor debate performance had almost no impact on voter preference, report says krawhitham Jan 4 #80

So voters that weren't inclined to vote for Biden weren't swayed to vote for him after his poor performance? dem4decades Jan 5 #92

Are you that easily swayed that one debate performance makes so much difference? travelingthrulife Jan 5 #94

we're not talking about me, we're talking about those voters that were swayable. dem4decades Jan 5 #95

people still listen to that guy????? Holy crap.............. Takket Jan 4 #25

Carville should pull his head out of his @$$. CentralMass Jan 4 #27

Until we break the rightwing disinfo silo, this is shit talking Arazi Jan 4 #28

Biden's advisors/consultants did him and the country a huge disservice dalton99a Jan 4 #31

They also did us a disservice by covering up the problems with doc03 Jan 4 #87

If "ifs' and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas-John Boehner Midnight Writer Jan 4 #32

Opinions are like assholes and everyone has one! Emile Jan 4 #33

People don't like it, but he's probably right. bearsfootball516 Jan 4 #34

Polls consistently showed for over a year that most Democrats wanted a different candidate than Biden Tom Rinaldo Jan 5 #93

Stop interviewing this creature. travelingthrulife Jan 4 #36

Carville is dead nuts wrong. The debate sealed the deal. Biden would not have won. Firestorm49 Jan 4 #37

Wrong. Biden would have won regardless if certain elements hadn't forced him out. valleyrogue Jan 4 #46

How? Carville said Biden should have said he wasn't running a year earlier MichMan Jan 4 #84

Pundits really got married to that offhand comment by Kamala on "The View." betsuni Jan 4 #39

I'm not a Carville fan but I don't think he's wrong. tman Jan 4 #40

Yes, he is, and his part in the debacle should make him retire from public life. n/t valleyrogue Jan 4 #48

I agree with him. beaglelover Jan 4 #41

Well, there would have been a primary. Patton French Jan 4 #42

Carville is worthless bigtree Jan 4 #43

That's like, just your opinion, man. Johonny Jan 4 #44

The election wouldn't have been close if he had not been forced out to begin with. valleyrogue Jan 4 #45

And if space aliens zapped away all evil people, we would have a utopia. GreenWave Jan 4 #49

No one knows the path not taken karynnj Jan 4 #51

Carville was on m$nbc saying 'we've got this' before the election. spanone Jan 4 #52

So was pretty much everyone here. n/t MichMan Jan 4 #86

I'm sure he has an excellent record in forecasting last week's weather as well. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 4 #53

If you can't predict elections in the real universe, focus on hypothetical alternate universes instead! nt Shermann Jan 4 #54

If Biden would have won, then why is it bad she said she agreed with what Biden did? nini Jan 4 #55

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Um, Carville was sure Harris was going to win right up to election day. Wiz Imp Jan 4 #57

Hey, Jimmy, here's something more productive for you to do: organize Democratic media JHB Jan 4 #59

It wouldn't have been close if people had thought about the election a little more, either. MineralMan Jan 4 #61

One was a message about the genocide in Gaza womanofthehills Jan 4 #72

I prefer to believe Carville on this. It's better than accepting voters prefered trump over our best candidates. Silent Type Jan 4 #62

We never had a primary (a normal length one, not some crazy rush job) to pick our best candidate. nt Celerity Jan 4 #64

carville may have been wrong this time rampartd Jan 4 #63

Hindsight is 20/20 but I believe he might have been right. BannonsLiver Jan 4 #65

Maybe, just maybe, if the top messengers in our party had done a better job... 3catwoman3 Jan 4 #66

He says this stuff to get under Trump's skin. I don't have a problem with this. nt Quixote1818 Jan 4 #67

Christ, not this blame-the-victim shit again Blue_Tires Jan 4 #68

Thanks for the woulda, shoulda, coulda, James Lulu KC Jan 4 #69

How is this discussion helpful? Yavin4 Jan 4 #70

He's probably right. I think it might have given the party a chance to do a primary. harumph Jan 4 #71

Hind sight's always 20 - 20 snakehead Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 4 #74

I was sick of this clown 30 years ago. Borogove Jan 4 #75

Hindsight is 20 20 Meowmee Jan 4 #77

It certainly couldn't have been worse than what happened. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 4 #78

Carville also claimed Harris was going to win in a landslide, now he's simply trying to save face krawhitham Jan 4 #79

not so sure of that Skittles Jan 4 #81

He and his wife can go fuck themselves NoRethugFriends Jan 4 #82

Maybe he's right Polybius Jan 4 #85

Like my father used to say PlanetBev Jan 5 #91

Too many factors pinkstarburst Jan 5 #96