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Wiz Imp

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57. Um, Carville was sure Harris was going to win right up to election day.

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Sat Jan 4, 2025, 01:00 PM

Jan 2025

So now, he's rewriting history and acting like he knew they were going to lose and it was Biden's fault (one of the objectively most successful presidents of all time). Proving once again that Carville should be completely ignored and never taken seriously again.

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Carville says election 'wouldn't have been close' if Biden dropped out in 2023 [View all] everyonematters Jan 2025 OP

Carville needs to stfu and go away. Imo, of course. n/t demmiblue Jan 2025 #1

He's right this time though. A year and half to campaign against a convicted... brush Jan 2025 #76

He can be tactless and abrupt, but he's right in this case. lees1975 Jan 2025 #88

When Biden was selected in 2020 even I knew 2024 was going to be a problem due to his age. But I didn't dem4decades Jan 2025 #2

I had some hope he would do the noble thing in 2020 Bluetus Jan 2025 #26

+1. Many had the same concern - Biden wasn't their first choice for that reason alone dalton99a Jan 2025 #38

In 2020, I thought Joe Biden himself would have chosen not to run for re-election. In It to Win It Jan 2025 #89

Unverifiable reverse-soothsaying is an amazing skill to have, I guess. nt Gore1FL Jan 2025 #3

So how should,or could, she answer the question? GusBob Jan 2025 #4

Not only that, it was a question the campaign knew was going to be asked, yet they still weren't prepared with an answer MichMan Jan 2025 #83

Of course it was more than one question GusBob Jan 2025 #97

More BS again! ananda Jan 2025 #5

F**K YOU Carville. JohnSJ Jan 2025 #6

And did you mention that to anyone in 2023 James? I think not. Part of the group think too. dutch777 Jan 2025 #7

I agree GusBob Jan 2025 #13

I think she ran the best campaign she could given the time she had. Our course correction should have... dutch777 Jan 2025 #98

Shut up! Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #8

obsolete person makes obsolete noise NewHendoLib Jan 2025 #9

With a finger in the wind, mahina Jan 2025 #29

Carville's probably right. sop Jan 2025 #10

The problem is that in 2023 we couldn't even debate this Buckeyeblue Jan 2025 #35

Agreed. I got sooo much pushback for simply saying his age has become an election issue In It to Win It Jan 2025 #90

Easily won ? No, we were never going to win easily JI7 Jan 2025 #11

And America would be far better off if BoRaGard Jan 2025 #12

The problem with all of these people is they still can't see influence of social media JI7 Jan 2025 #14

Carville wouldn't look and sound like a shaved goat Conjuay Jan 2025 #15

What do we have to do to get these types to stfu and go away. onecaliberal Jan 2025 #16

As if I give a shit about anything Carville has to say. (nt) Paladin Jan 2025 #17

Instead of all of this second guessing we need someone to show us how to counter all the social media lies.... groundloop Jan 2025 #18

This all day mahina Jan 2025 #30

I can't imagine a less important statement from a less relevant person Prairie Gates Jan 2025 #19

+1000. (nt) Paladin Jan 2025 #47

I thought he was going to go away and yet here he is. milestogo Jan 2025 #20

I wish Carville would STFU. It seems he's always ready to put his ugly puss in front of a camera and take Vinca Jan 2025 #21

Biden should have done more pressers LSparkle Jan 2025 #22

Interesting GusBob Jan 2025 #23

I generally don't agree with Carville but in this case he's right Ritabert Jan 2025 #24

No, he is not. People need to quit even listening or reading one thing he says. n/t valleyrogue Jan 2025 #50

I don't know if we would have won, but it would have been better EdmondDantes_ Jan 2025 #58

I don't believe in censorship. I prefer to listen to a wide variety totodeinhere Jan 2025 #60

Why? nt Southern_gent Jan 2025 #73

Nope, Biden's poor debate performance had almost no impact on voter preference, report says krawhitham Jan 2025 #80

So voters that weren't inclined to vote for Biden weren't swayed to vote for him after his poor performance? dem4decades Jan 2025 #92

Are you that easily swayed that one debate performance makes so much difference? travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #94

we're not talking about me, we're talking about those voters that were swayable. dem4decades Jan 2025 #95

people still listen to that guy????? Holy crap.............. Takket Jan 2025 #25

Carville should pull his head out of his @$$. CentralMass Jan 2025 #27

Until we break the rightwing disinfo silo, this is shit talking Arazi Jan 2025 #28

Biden's advisors/consultants did him and the country a huge disservice dalton99a Jan 2025 #31

They also did us a disservice by covering up the problems with doc03 Jan 2025 #87

If "ifs' and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas-John Boehner Midnight Writer Jan 2025 #32

Opinions are like assholes and everyone has one! Emile Jan 2025 #33

People don't like it, but he's probably right. bearsfootball516 Jan 2025 #34

Polls consistently showed for over a year that most Democrats wanted a different candidate than Biden Tom Rinaldo Jan 2025 #93

Stop interviewing this creature. travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #36

Carville is dead nuts wrong. The debate sealed the deal. Biden would not have won. Firestorm49 Jan 2025 #37

Wrong. Biden would have won regardless if certain elements hadn't forced him out. valleyrogue Jan 2025 #46

How? Carville said Biden should have said he wasn't running a year earlier MichMan Jan 2025 #84

Pundits really got married to that offhand comment by Kamala on "The View." betsuni Jan 2025 #39

I'm not a Carville fan but I don't think he's wrong. tman Jan 2025 #40

Yes, he is, and his part in the debacle should make him retire from public life. n/t valleyrogue Jan 2025 #48

I agree with him. beaglelover Jan 2025 #41

Well, there would have been a primary. Patton French Jan 2025 #42

Carville is worthless bigtree Jan 2025 #43

That's like, just your opinion, man. Johonny Jan 2025 #44

The election wouldn't have been close if he had not been forced out to begin with. valleyrogue Jan 2025 #45

And if space aliens zapped away all evil people, we would have a utopia. GreenWave Jan 2025 #49

No one knows the path not taken karynnj Jan 2025 #51

Carville was on m$nbc saying 'we've got this' before the election. spanone Jan 2025 #52

So was pretty much everyone here. n/t MichMan Jan 2025 #86

I'm sure he has an excellent record in forecasting last week's weather as well. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2025 #53

If you can't predict elections in the real universe, focus on hypothetical alternate universes instead! nt Shermann Jan 2025 #54

If Biden would have won, then why is it bad she said she agreed with what Biden did? nini Jan 2025 #55

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Um, Carville was sure Harris was going to win right up to election day. Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #57

Hey, Jimmy, here's something more productive for you to do: organize Democratic media JHB Jan 2025 #59

It wouldn't have been close if people had thought about the election a little more, either. MineralMan Jan 2025 #61

One was a message about the genocide in Gaza womanofthehills Jan 2025 #72

I prefer to believe Carville on this. It's better than accepting voters prefered trump over our best candidates. Silent Type Jan 2025 #62

We never had a primary (a normal length one, not some crazy rush job) to pick our best candidate. nt Celerity Jan 2025 #64

carville may have been wrong this time rampartd Jan 2025 #63

Hindsight is 20/20 but I believe he might have been right. BannonsLiver Jan 2025 #65

Maybe, just maybe, if the top messengers in our party had done a better job... 3catwoman3 Jan 2025 #66

He says this stuff to get under Trump's skin. I don't have a problem with this. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2025 #67

Christ, not this blame-the-victim shit again Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #68

Thanks for the woulda, shoulda, coulda, James Lulu KC Jan 2025 #69

How is this discussion helpful? Yavin4 Jan 2025 #70

He's probably right. I think it might have given the party a chance to do a primary. harumph Jan 2025 #71

Hind sight's always 20 - 20 snakehead Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2025 #74

I was sick of this clown 30 years ago. Borogove Jan 2025 #75

Hindsight is 20 20 Meowmee Jan 2025 #77

It certainly couldn't have been worse than what happened. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2025 #78

Carville also claimed Harris was going to win in a landslide, now he's simply trying to save face krawhitham Jan 2025 #79

not so sure of that Skittles Jan 2025 #81

He and his wife can go fuck themselves NoRethugFriends Jan 2025 #82

Maybe he's right Polybius Jan 2025 #85

Like my father used to say PlanetBev Jan 2025 #91

Too many factors pinkstarburst Jan 2025 #96