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In reply to the discussion: Carville says election 'wouldn't have been close' if Biden dropped out in 2023 [View all]karynnj
(60,029 posts)A pre- primary/ primary starting in 2023 could have led to a very fractured party. Here, he argues that the problem was that Harris could not separate from Biden.
For sake of argument, what completely different position would have led a Democrat to success? Biden was more populist, more pro union than any President in many decades. On foreign policy, the two main issues were Ukraine and Israel. Even ignoring what you think is right, what position would be better politically?
Now, imagine there was a primary. Would Biden endorse anyone? Would many think it was Harris's term? Would elected Democrats rally behind her, as they did Gore, even if ideologically they might be closer to an opponent?
Carville, like most pundits, of course sees that the person who could win to be (surprise) someone he ideologically syncs with. Here, someone probably to the right of Harris and to the right of how Biden acted as President. He clearly preferred someone to Harris. Yet imagine what skipping a woman, a POC to select a white male would have done to turn out of the base would have been.
Someone noted that maybe we are in a period of such unhappiness that the Presidency has changed parties in each of the last 3 elections. It may not have been so clear cut that even with the best candidate, best messaging etc we would easily win.