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ananda

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5. More BS again!

Reply to everyonematters (Original post)

Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:35 AM

Jan 4

This election loss was the fault of racism
and misogyny, which fueled enough elections
over the last forty years to change laws and
swing courts enough to allow media to be
biased, voting rights to be weakened, and
hate and guns to flourish.

Period.

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Carville says election 'wouldn't have been close' if Biden dropped out in 2023 [View all] everyonematters Jan 4 OP

Carville needs to stfu and go away. Imo, of course. n/t demmiblue Jan 4 #1

He's right this time though. A year and half to campaign against a convicted... brush Jan 4 #76

He can be tactless and abrupt, but he's right in this case. lees1975 Jan 4 #88

When Biden was selected in 2020 even I knew 2024 was going to be a problem due to his age. But I didn't dem4decades Jan 4 #2

I had some hope he would do the noble thing in 2020 Bluetus Jan 4 #26

+1. Many had the same concern - Biden wasn't their first choice for that reason alone dalton99a Jan 4 #38

In 2020, I thought Joe Biden himself would have chosen not to run for re-election. In It to Win It Jan 4 #89

Unverifiable reverse-soothsaying is an amazing skill to have, I guess. nt Gore1FL Jan 4 #3

So how should,or could, she answer the question? GusBob Jan 4 #4

Not only that, it was a question the campaign knew was going to be asked, yet they still weren't prepared with an answer MichMan Jan 4 #83

Of course it was more than one question GusBob Jan 5 #97

More BS again! ananda Jan 4 #5

F**K YOU Carville. JohnSJ Jan 4 #6

And did you mention that to anyone in 2023 James? I think not. Part of the group think too. dutch777 Jan 4 #7

I agree GusBob Jan 4 #13

I think she ran the best campaign she could given the time she had. Our course correction should have... dutch777 Jan 5 #98

Shut up! Clouds Passing Jan 4 #8

obsolete person makes obsolete noise NewHendoLib Jan 4 #9

With a finger in the wind, mahina Jan 4 #29

Carville's probably right. sop Jan 4 #10

The problem is that in 2023 we couldn't even debate this Buckeyeblue Jan 4 #35

Agreed. I got sooo much pushback for simply saying his age has become an election issue In It to Win It Jan 4 #90

Easily won ? No, we were never going to win easily JI7 Jan 4 #11

And America would be far better off if BoRaGard Jan 4 #12

The problem with all of these people is they still can't see influence of social media JI7 Jan 4 #14

Carville wouldn't look and sound like a shaved goat Conjuay Jan 4 #15

What do we have to do to get these types to stfu and go away. onecaliberal Jan 4 #16

As if I give a shit about anything Carville has to say. (nt) Paladin Jan 4 #17

Instead of all of this second guessing we need someone to show us how to counter all the social media lies.... groundloop Jan 4 #18

This all day mahina Jan 4 #30

I can't imagine a less important statement from a less relevant person Prairie Gates Jan 4 #19

+1000. (nt) Paladin Jan 4 #47

I thought he was going to go away and yet here he is. milestogo Jan 4 #20

I wish Carville would STFU. It seems he's always ready to put his ugly puss in front of a camera and take Vinca Jan 4 #21

Biden should have done more pressers LSparkle Jan 4 #22

Interesting GusBob Jan 4 #23

I generally don't agree with Carville but in this case he's right Ritabert Jan 4 #24

No, he is not. People need to quit even listening or reading one thing he says. n/t valleyrogue Jan 4 #50

I don't know if we would have won, but it would have been better EdmondDantes_ Jan 4 #58

I don't believe in censorship. I prefer to listen to a wide variety totodeinhere Jan 4 #60

Why? nt Southern_gent Jan 4 #73

Nope, Biden's poor debate performance had almost no impact on voter preference, report says krawhitham Jan 4 #80

So voters that weren't inclined to vote for Biden weren't swayed to vote for him after his poor performance? dem4decades Jan 5 #92

Are you that easily swayed that one debate performance makes so much difference? travelingthrulife Jan 5 #94

we're not talking about me, we're talking about those voters that were swayable. dem4decades Jan 5 #95

people still listen to that guy????? Holy crap.............. Takket Jan 4 #25

Carville should pull his head out of his @$$. CentralMass Jan 4 #27

Until we break the rightwing disinfo silo, this is shit talking Arazi Jan 4 #28

Biden's advisors/consultants did him and the country a huge disservice dalton99a Jan 4 #31

They also did us a disservice by covering up the problems with doc03 Jan 4 #87

If "ifs' and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas-John Boehner Midnight Writer Jan 4 #32

Opinions are like assholes and everyone has one! Emile Jan 4 #33

People don't like it, but he's probably right. bearsfootball516 Jan 4 #34

Polls consistently showed for over a year that most Democrats wanted a different candidate than Biden Tom Rinaldo Jan 5 #93

Stop interviewing this creature. travelingthrulife Jan 4 #36

Carville is dead nuts wrong. The debate sealed the deal. Biden would not have won. Firestorm49 Jan 4 #37

Wrong. Biden would have won regardless if certain elements hadn't forced him out. valleyrogue Jan 4 #46

How? Carville said Biden should have said he wasn't running a year earlier MichMan Jan 4 #84

Pundits really got married to that offhand comment by Kamala on "The View." betsuni Jan 4 #39

I'm not a Carville fan but I don't think he's wrong. tman Jan 4 #40

Yes, he is, and his part in the debacle should make him retire from public life. n/t valleyrogue Jan 4 #48

I agree with him. beaglelover Jan 4 #41

Well, there would have been a primary. Patton French Jan 4 #42

Carville is worthless bigtree Jan 4 #43

That's like, just your opinion, man. Johonny Jan 4 #44

The election wouldn't have been close if he had not been forced out to begin with. valleyrogue Jan 4 #45

And if space aliens zapped away all evil people, we would have a utopia. GreenWave Jan 4 #49

No one knows the path not taken karynnj Jan 4 #51

Carville was on m$nbc saying 'we've got this' before the election. spanone Jan 4 #52

So was pretty much everyone here. n/t MichMan Jan 4 #86

I'm sure he has an excellent record in forecasting last week's weather as well. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 4 #53

If you can't predict elections in the real universe, focus on hypothetical alternate universes instead! nt Shermann Jan 4 #54

If Biden would have won, then why is it bad she said she agreed with what Biden did? nini Jan 4 #55

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Um, Carville was sure Harris was going to win right up to election day. Wiz Imp Jan 4 #57

Hey, Jimmy, here's something more productive for you to do: organize Democratic media JHB Jan 4 #59

It wouldn't have been close if people had thought about the election a little more, either. MineralMan Jan 4 #61

One was a message about the genocide in Gaza womanofthehills Jan 4 #72

I prefer to believe Carville on this. It's better than accepting voters prefered trump over our best candidates. Silent Type Jan 4 #62

We never had a primary (a normal length one, not some crazy rush job) to pick our best candidate. nt Celerity Jan 4 #64

carville may have been wrong this time rampartd Jan 4 #63

Hindsight is 20/20 but I believe he might have been right. BannonsLiver Jan 4 #65

Maybe, just maybe, if the top messengers in our party had done a better job... 3catwoman3 Jan 4 #66

He says this stuff to get under Trump's skin. I don't have a problem with this. nt Quixote1818 Jan 4 #67

Christ, not this blame-the-victim shit again Blue_Tires Jan 4 #68

Thanks for the woulda, shoulda, coulda, James Lulu KC Jan 4 #69

How is this discussion helpful? Yavin4 Jan 4 #70

He's probably right. I think it might have given the party a chance to do a primary. harumph Jan 4 #71

Hind sight's always 20 - 20 snakehead Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 4 #74

I was sick of this clown 30 years ago. Borogove Jan 4 #75

Hindsight is 20 20 Meowmee Jan 4 #77

It certainly couldn't have been worse than what happened. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 4 #78

Carville also claimed Harris was going to win in a landslide, now he's simply trying to save face krawhitham Jan 4 #79

not so sure of that Skittles Jan 4 #81

He and his wife can go fuck themselves NoRethugFriends Jan 4 #82

Maybe he's right Polybius Jan 4 #85

Like my father used to say PlanetBev Jan 5 #91

Too many factors pinkstarburst Jan 5 #96