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(3,573 posts) Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:20 AM Saturday

Carville says election 'wouldn't have been close' if Biden dropped out in 2023 [View all]

Democratic strategist James Carville said Democrats would have easily won the 2024 presidential election if President Biden dropped out earlier.

“Had President Biden gotten out, say May of 2023, I don’t have any doubt that Democrats would have won, and it wouldn’t have been close,” Carville said during an interview on The Hill’s “Rising” on Friday.

He said the relatively narrow vote margin in the election demonstrated the “weakness” of Trump’s candidacy, even with two-thirds of the public saying the country is heading in the wrong direction under Biden.

He pointed to Harris’s appearance on ABC’s “The View” in which she said “not a thing comes to mind” that she would have done differently from Biden. He said his heart “sank” when he heard that response.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5065790-biden-dropout-democrats-win-carville/?tbref=hp

Because of the circumstances, we ended up with a candidate that could not separate herself from Biden's record.

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Carville says election 'wouldn't have been close' if Biden dropped out in 2023 [View all] everyonematters Saturday OP

Carville needs to stfu and go away. Imo, of course. n/t demmiblue Saturday #1

He's right this time though. A year and half to campaign against a convicted... brush Saturday #76

He can be tactless and abrupt, but he's right in this case. lees1975 Saturday #88

When Biden was selected in 2020 even I knew 2024 was going to be a problem due to his age. But I didn't dem4decades Saturday #2

I had some hope he would do the noble thing in 2020 Bluetus Saturday #26

+1. Many had the same concern - Biden wasn't their first choice for that reason alone dalton99a Saturday #38

In 2020, I thought Joe Biden himself would have chosen not to run for re-election. In It to Win It Saturday #89

Unverifiable reverse-soothsaying is an amazing skill to have, I guess. nt Gore1FL Saturday #3

So how should,or could, she answer the question? GusBob Saturday #4

Not only that, it was a question the campaign knew was going to be asked, yet they still weren't prepared with an answer MichMan Saturday #83

Of course it was more than one question GusBob Yesterday #97

More BS again! ananda Saturday #5

F**K YOU Carville. JohnSJ Saturday #6

And did you mention that to anyone in 2023 James? I think not. Part of the group think too. dutch777 Saturday #7

I agree GusBob Saturday #13

I think she ran the best campaign she could given the time she had. Our course correction should have... dutch777 Yesterday #98

Shut up! Clouds Passing Saturday #8

obsolete person makes obsolete noise NewHendoLib Saturday #9

With a finger in the wind, mahina Saturday #29

Carville's probably right. sop Saturday #10

The problem is that in 2023 we couldn't even debate this Buckeyeblue Saturday #35

Agreed. I got sooo much pushback for simply saying his age has become an election issue In It to Win It Saturday #90

Easily won ? No, we were never going to win easily JI7 Saturday #11

And America would be far better off if BoRaGard Saturday #12

The problem with all of these people is they still can't see influence of social media JI7 Saturday #14

Carville wouldn't look and sound like a shaved goat Conjuay Saturday #15

What do we have to do to get these types to stfu and go away. onecaliberal Saturday #16

As if I give a shit about anything Carville has to say. (nt) Paladin Saturday #17

Instead of all of this second guessing we need someone to show us how to counter all the social media lies.... groundloop Saturday #18

This all day mahina Saturday #30

I can't imagine a less important statement from a less relevant person Prairie Gates Saturday #19

+1000. (nt) Paladin Saturday #47

I thought he was going to go away and yet here he is. milestogo Saturday #20

I wish Carville would STFU. It seems he's always ready to put his ugly puss in front of a camera and take Vinca Saturday #21

Biden should have done more pressers LSparkle Saturday #22

Interesting GusBob Saturday #23

I generally don't agree with Carville but in this case he's right Ritabert Saturday #24

No, he is not. People need to quit even listening or reading one thing he says. n/t valleyrogue Saturday #50

I don't know if we would have won, but it would have been better EdmondDantes_ Saturday #58

I don't believe in censorship. I prefer to listen to a wide variety totodeinhere Saturday #60

Why? nt Southern_gent Saturday #73

Nope, Biden's poor debate performance had almost no impact on voter preference, report says krawhitham Saturday #80

So voters that weren't inclined to vote for Biden weren't swayed to vote for him after his poor performance? dem4decades Yesterday #92

Are you that easily swayed that one debate performance makes so much difference? travelingthrulife Yesterday #94

we're not talking about me, we're talking about those voters that were swayable. dem4decades Yesterday #95

people still listen to that guy????? Holy crap.............. Takket Saturday #25

Carville should pull his head out of his @$$. CentralMass Saturday #27

Until we break the rightwing disinfo silo, this is shit talking Arazi Saturday #28

Biden's advisors/consultants did him and the country a huge disservice dalton99a Saturday #31

They also did us a disservice by covering up the problems with doc03 Saturday #87

If "ifs' and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas-John Boehner Midnight Writer Saturday #32

Opinions are like assholes and everyone has one! Emile Saturday #33

People don't like it, but he's probably right. bearsfootball516 Saturday #34

Polls consistently showed for over a year that most Democrats wanted a different candidate than Biden Tom Rinaldo Yesterday #93

Stop interviewing this creature. travelingthrulife Saturday #36

Carville is dead nuts wrong. The debate sealed the deal. Biden would not have won. Firestorm49 Saturday #37

Wrong. Biden would have won regardless if certain elements hadn't forced him out. valleyrogue Saturday #46

How? Carville said Biden should have said he wasn't running a year earlier MichMan Saturday #84

Pundits really got married to that offhand comment by Kamala on "The View." betsuni Saturday #39

I'm not a Carville fan but I don't think he's wrong. tman Saturday #40

Yes, he is, and his part in the debacle should make him retire from public life. n/t valleyrogue Saturday #48

I agree with him. beaglelover Saturday #41

Well, there would have been a primary. Patton French Saturday #42

Carville is worthless bigtree Saturday #43

That's like, just your opinion, man. Johonny Saturday #44

The election wouldn't have been close if he had not been forced out to begin with. valleyrogue Saturday #45

And if space aliens zapped away all evil people, we would have a utopia. GreenWave Saturday #49

No one knows the path not taken karynnj Saturday #51

Carville was on m$nbc saying 'we've got this' before the election. spanone Saturday #52

So was pretty much everyone here. n/t MichMan Saturday #86

I'm sure he has an excellent record in forecasting last week's weather as well. Nt Fiendish Thingy Saturday #53

If you can't predict elections in the real universe, focus on hypothetical alternate universes instead! nt Shermann Saturday #54

If Biden would have won, then why is it bad she said she agreed with what Biden did? nini Saturday #55

This message was self-deleted by its author displacedvermoter Saturday #56

Um, Carville was sure Harris was going to win right up to election day. Wiz Imp Saturday #57

Hey, Jimmy, here's something more productive for you to do: organize Democratic media JHB Saturday #59

It wouldn't have been close if people had thought about the election a little more, either. MineralMan Saturday #61

One was a message about the genocide in Gaza womanofthehills Saturday #72

I prefer to believe Carville on this. It's better than accepting voters prefered trump over our best candidates. Silent Type Saturday #62

We never had a primary (a normal length one, not some crazy rush job) to pick our best candidate. nt Celerity Saturday #64

carville may have been wrong this time rampartd Saturday #63

Hindsight is 20/20 but I believe he might have been right. BannonsLiver Saturday #65

Maybe, just maybe, if the top messengers in our party had done a better job... 3catwoman3 Saturday #66

He says this stuff to get under Trump's skin. I don't have a problem with this. nt Quixote1818 Saturday #67

Christ, not this blame-the-victim shit again Blue_Tires Saturday #68

Thanks for the woulda, shoulda, coulda, James Lulu KC Saturday #69

How is this discussion helpful? Yavin4 Saturday #70

He's probably right. I think it might have given the party a chance to do a primary. harumph Saturday #71

Hind sight's always 20 - 20 snakehead Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Saturday #74

I was sick of this clown 30 years ago. Borogove Saturday #75

Hindsight is 20 20 Meowmee Saturday #77

It certainly couldn't have been worse than what happened. BlueTsunami2018 Saturday #78

Carville also claimed Harris was going to win in a landslide, now he's simply trying to save face krawhitham Saturday #79

not so sure of that Skittles Saturday #81

He and his wife can go fuck themselves NoRethugFriends Saturday #82

Maybe he's right Polybius Saturday #85

Like my father used to say PlanetBev Yesterday #91

Too many factors pinkstarburst Yesterday #96