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summer_in_TX

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48. Reminds me of the teacher training I took in the 1970s. The advice for how to handle student
Fri Jan 3, 2025, 10:13 PM
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misbehavior was to ignore it, deprive them of reinforcement (positive or negative).

Only problem was it assumed that only the teacher's attention mattered. The students laughing and encouraging their misbehavior far outweighed any ignoring I could do.

Later in looking back at the textbook for the course, I discovered the research on the effectiveness of ignoring was all done in a behavioral hospital setting where the researchers had far more control of the setting and the presence of an audience than any classroom teacher has.

US ignoring Trump won't do a damn thing.

At least not to stop or slow him in any way. It just means he does things without any resistance.

Maybe posting the firehose of news of the terrible things Trump administration will be doing and our discussion of it will be too overwhelmingly stressful and just seem hopeless to many here. I understand that feeling.

But for those of us working to help as many as possible who will be targets, we need the info. We also need to brainstorm and we need the discussion to inform our own thinking and formulate the best arguments, ones that will be an effective way to push back and delay or divert or rally the public opinion of fellow Americans.

I read this today and have been thinking about it ever since.

Will Stancil
‪@whstancil.bsky.social‬
The liberal answer of “sitting back and waiting for reality to reassert itself” doesn’t work because people don’t get their information about the world from reality, but mostly from each other. You have to go out there and contest the bad beliefs. That means talking to people you DON’T agree with.

And by “talking” I specifically mean “arguing with.” The dusty liberal fallback of “we need to be better listeners” does absolutely nothing to contest those false beliefs. It’s a contest for the collective mind and you’re never going to win it unless you actually try to take territory.

…You contest claims in public not to persuade the other side but to persuade the audience. In politics everything is always, always, always about persuading the audience. Looking like the smarter side to the audience. Convincing the audience.

Democrats and liberals specifically are terrible at this: they seem to think persuasion happens by directly making your case to voters. No! That’s wrong! The goal is to win the sympathies of the crowd, by engaging in conflicts where you look good and the other side looks stupid/venal/weak. It’s WWE

The reason you have to persuade people this way is that if you convince one person to agree with you, but the audience thinks the other side is winning, then the person you convinced will still most likely return to the popular consensus the moment they realize it exists


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I'd like to be able to do that. Only problem is I don't think fast on my feet and need all the help I can get to think things through. It'll take a lot of work to overcome those traits and get better in areas that are needed and then have a plan.

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It's a discussion board? Blues Heron Friday #1
It is. And there's millions of other topics to discuss. Very important topics. Yavin4 Friday #2
Or just take a break and let people post what they want? Blues Heron Friday #8
People can post whatever they want, but they should know that posting what Trump says does nothing. Yavin4 Friday #12
I respectfully disagree. William769 Friday #27
Yes, but most of what he says is a distraction. We need to Scrivener7 Saturday #55
*sigh* No one is taking away your freedom of speech. Yavin was stating an opinion on Scrivener7 Friday #18
Everybody is stating there opinion, it's why we have the board sigh Blues Heron Friday #20
Don't you just want to do this sometimes? William769 Friday #29
Police the site as you are doing? Scrivener7 Friday #31
sigh Blues Heron Friday #36
sigh, indeed Scrivener7 Friday #37
What happens Jilly_in_VA Friday #3
He doesn't care. It doesn't affect him. Yavin4 Friday #5
I disagree with this. Being laughed at is his achilles heel. Scrivener7 Friday #17
🤔we Might need some new Additional ways to laugh at him... electric_blue68 Friday #50
Yes. Psychologically, he's anything but complicated. Our side should be Scrivener7 Saturday #54
THAT should be where we spend all our energy and airspace. THAT will hurt him. Scrivener7 Friday #16
I agree, I can't wait for DU's new "Latest trump B.S." forum so I can trash the forum and never have to read his B.S. Think. Again. Friday #4
Yes, but he's going to be President. Tommy Carcetti Friday #6
So he says some foul things. What can we do about it? Yavin4 Friday #9
Goes double for those who post in ALL CAPS how he is DESTROYED, OWNED, RockRaven Friday #7
And "HUMILIATED" ... live love laugh Friday #35
Trump's own supporters: "You can't take him literally." sop Friday #10
It also just gets dismissed with the old "trump derangement syndrome" canard. D23MIURG23 Friday #11
As Rachel says, watch what they do, not what they say. nt Qutzupalotl Friday #13
YES !! eppur_se_muova Friday #47
Exactly! peggysue2 Saturday #68
We Should Have Been Ignoring Him From The Get Go..... global1 Friday #14
And all of his most outrageous comments are very carefully designed to distract from Scrivener7 Friday #15
The felonious rapist does not read DU. Justice matters. Friday #19
Somebody in his camp does ... he just posted about flags half mast live love laugh Friday #34
A grifter is a grifter is a grifter. William769 Friday #21
THIS !!! Most of what Benedict Donald says is to distract away from the BS he's doing uponit7771 Friday #22
Puts me in mind of The Simpsons episode where the advertising mascots come to life and terrorize Springfield. Xavier Breath Friday #23
Love that episode. OldBaldy1701E Friday #24
Yeah, Bart appearing on the mascot devil's shoulder to egg him on was truly inspired. Xavier Breath Friday #25
"BART!" (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Friday #26
Exactly Blue_Tires Friday #28
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We've done just the opposite for the past 10 years. Yavin4 Friday #40
Ding ding ding PortTack Friday #46
Yeah, well. Congrats on your "accomplishment," here. Paladin Saturday #53
How about this. Use your energy to rebuild the Democratic party. Yavin4 Saturday #56
Enjoy my silence. (nt) Paladin Saturday #58
I note that Joe Biden came out of retirement Dem4life1970 Friday #45
Yes. That was back when Trump had to stand for re-election. Yavin4 Saturday #57
Yavin4, you are right. But that cuts both ways.... Dem4life1970 Saturday #60
That's the wrong frame. Yavin4 Saturday #61
I respect your opinion... Dem4life1970 Saturday #63
Again, does not matter. Move on. Yavin4 Saturday #64
Yes, I am focused on 2026 and taking the House and Senate back. Dem4life1970 Saturday #67
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Who said to retreat? nini Saturday #70
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"Constantly reacting to what Trump says..." J_William_Ryan Friday #42
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Reminds me of the teacher training I took in the 1970s. The advice for how to handle student summer_in_TX Friday #48
Basically ThePartyThatListens Friday #49
That energy is commonly known as a "narcissistic supply". LastDemocratInSC Saturday #51
You are spot on, don't give the sick attention! arthritisR_US Saturday #52
You may not like it but what he says does matter. His words impact us all. Autumn Saturday #59
You Are Incorrect, I Believe. MineralMan Saturday #62
So true 👍 TommieMommy Saturday #65
Exactly..... prodigitalson Sunday #72
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