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Cirsium

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Sun Dec 22, 2024, 06:23 PM
Dec 22

The same thing is happening here (Michigan). I talked to a grower about this yesterday. The war on farm workers has been going on for a long time and the situation is now critical. I was talking to a MAGA person about this a while back, telling him that there was a serious labor shortage on the farms here. He was quite confused by that. "But they are pouring across the border!" he said.

That idiot Vance was here a while back trying to talk ag. He said food prices are high because other countries are dumping produce here. Uh, no dumping would mean lower prices. Then he went on to say that farmers are not making enough. OK, Mr. Hillbilly genius, prices are too high for consumers, but farmers are not making enough, and Trump is going to fix that? How? By running farm workers out of the country and putting tariffs on imports? The tariffs hurt consumers, the loss of workers hurts the farmers. But Vance said that he is "the baker in the family" so he knows all about this.

The crowd went wild over Vance's remarks. But they weren't farmers, and that is important to understand. Trump and Vance supporters are a bunch of Walter Mittys - "ordinary, often ineffectual persons who indulge in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs." They imagine themselves to be farmers, ranchers, lumberjacks, jet pilots, and other macho stereotypes, and Trump is a master at appealing to that, better than Reagan or W were. You can see that in his use of Village People's "Y.M.C.A." and in those ridiculous cosplay Trump digital trading cards. Remember, history repeats itself, "the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce."

I blame Hollywood. Warner Brothers studio head Jack L. Warner wrote "to the Walter Mittys of the world Errol Flynn was all the heroes in one magnificent, sexy, animal package." Trump does not need to actually be "all the heroes in one magnificent, sexy, animal package," he just needs to evoke the fantasies. "He is one us" as so many MAGA folks say, because he is a mediocrity, "an ordinary, often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs," not in spite of that.

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Thanks for this report, j -- I'm picturing the water in a glass trembling a bit as a monstrously huge T Rex Leghorn21 Dec 22 #1
It fills me with sadness to think of what those kids are going through. jmbar2 Dec 22 #2
J, I'll never forget a moment in Oct 2016 after I had watched a little Latina schoolgirl in Oakland? SF? on tv, Leghorn21 Dec 22 #5
Yes Doodles Dec 22 #6
Yea this made it back on my playlist yet again. Sin Dec 23 #22
wow - very powerful jmbar2 Dec 23 #32
It is only Starting and will get worse in America Oneear Dec 22 #3
So true - we are really screwing up. jmbar2 Dec 22 #4
Our birth rate is falling Random Boomer Dec 23 #23
I wish them well when they leave... Trueblue Texan Dec 23 #29
Republicans assume that we have millions of people in welfare who can be forced to take those jobs. Lonestarblue Dec 23 #35
That's probably about right. And while they are trying to socially engineer, they will tube the economy for many dutch777 Dec 23 #53
I have no doubt there are effects Kali Dec 22 #7
I used to live in Texas, where it was definitely the case jmbar2 Dec 22 #8
it is certainly possible they will wait and see what the asshole Kali Dec 22 #12
This is exactly what Trump and his supporters want oldmanlynn Dec 22 #13
No, they don't Nigrum Cattus Dec 22 #10
delusional? Kali Dec 22 #11
And you are being personally insulting. Stop it. nt Trueblue Texan Dec 23 #30
Is there a civil way to make your point? Welcome to DU. mahina Dec 23 #48
Going home Cirsium Dec 22 #18
Good info - thanks for sharing it. jmbar2 Dec 22 #20
5 months LittleGirl Dec 23 #27
Yes, here in SoCal as well Nigrum Cattus Dec 22 #9
Good news for you republicans. You get your jobs back that the immigrants took from you keithbvadu2 Dec 22 #14
THIS johnnyfins Dec 23 #24
MAGA views it as a solution, not a problem IronLionZion Dec 22 #15
Every maga dreams of working in a bacon processing plant. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 23 #51
Maybe red state school children are asked what they want to be when they grow up IronLionZion Dec 23 #54
magas think most meat processing jobs are Quality Assurance Taste Tester. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 23 #55
Also here Cirsium Dec 22 #16
So where are these farmers? Random Boomer Dec 23 #25
No Cirsium Dec 23 #43
Im sure he is "The Baker" johnnyfins Dec 23 #26
Faux News will tell them it's all the fault of Dems Blue_Tires Dec 22 #17
It's going to hurt HARD here in Texas. Texasgal Dec 22 #19
It's gonna be a bumpy ride. Try to prepare yourselves. These stupid fucks could have had Kamala. Joinfortmill Dec 23 #21
It's insane that people voted for the fucking asshole AGAIN. Initech Dec 23 #52
Trump has never been a success at anything weissmam Dec 23 #28
Reading all this makes me wonder who here would work in a slaughter house for less than $25 an hour? Srkdqltr Dec 23 #31
I worked on a farm for a $1.50 an hour. $7.50 in today's dollars. Kaleva Dec 23 #36
My point exactly. Srkdqltr Dec 23 #38
There are benefits to the job that fits my situation Kaleva Dec 23 #47
Why work on the farm? Cirsium Dec 24 #61
$16,000 a year Cirsium Dec 23 #46
Any news of Americans lining up to fill those jobs? nt Hotler Dec 23 #33
Looking at the local job listings... jmbar2 Dec 23 #34
There is a serious problem with US capitalism Farmer-Rick Dec 23 #37
Because average Americans can't/won't live on low wages. Srkdqltr Dec 23 #39
That's what I'm saying Farmer-Rick Dec 23 #41
No choice Cirsium Dec 23 #44
Decent wages take away from executive bonuses, private jets, mansions, and skyscrapers. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 23 #42
Maybe President Musk and VP Trump are planning on bringing Dan Dec 23 #45
It's not just the threat of deportation this time around. mn9driver Dec 23 #40
Someone needs to re-release the Bush era movie "A Day Without a Mexican" LT Barclay Dec 23 #49
One of my favorite movies. jmbar2 Dec 23 #50
I love how... Ollie Garkie Dec 23 #56
We got it comin' here in Tahoe I bet!!! FirstLight Dec 23 #57
I also hear people saying PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 23 #58
Well that's a surprise... orwell Dec 23 #59
That is what happened here KT2000 Dec 23 #60
FAFO ecstatic Dec 24 #62
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