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angrychair

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79. It's completely anecdotal

Mon Dec 16, 2024, 12:20 AM

Dec 2024

I've encountered a lot of people not good at their jobs and/or jaded or disconnected. I don't think GenZ have the market cornered on being bad at working.
Not to mention that most jobs suck. I just have a couple years until retirement and my biggest struggle is getting myself to give a shit sometimes. I'm at the top of my pay scale. I can't be promoted. At my age and so close to retirement why would I want to take on a harder job with more responsibility and more importantly who would hire me? My point in saying all this is that everyone can have a shitty day or be judged for not being wide open and hardcore all the time or just be jaded and burned out from a world that is literally falling apart around them.

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Yikes. Result of texting and?--Companies are firing Gen Z employees soon after hiring them. [View all] hlthe2b Dec 2024 OP

I personally think that a lot more time and emphasis should be spent on English composition courses Walleye Dec 2024 #1

Our educational system is to blame for the lack of reading and writing in schools. rich7862 Dec 2024 #129

21st century skills exboyfil Dec 2024 #132

Absolutely. Writing essays, the thought process it develops, and by typing them on a keyboard... brush Dec 17 #176

It's even worse than that. snot Dec 2024 #142

Would that be about Neil Bush's company Ignite*? (W's crooked brother) Attilatheblond Dec 17 #165

Sorry, I didn't catch that part of the story. snot Dec 17 #173

Apparently the high-level administrators never learned to not just read, but to think critically... brush Dec 18 #177

The problem is they want to text everything DenaliDemocrat Dec 2024 #149

And in the details of "old math." Too many people do not know how to work with percentages. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 17 #166

I've been pondering for awhile bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #2

And a lack of respect for institutional knowledge. LisaM Dec 2024 #8

Definitely! /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #21

So much this! Horse with no Name Dec 17 #168

That has not been my experience. Happy Hoosier Dec 2024 #108

And the young professionals of 30-40 years ago VMA131Marine Dec 2024 #128

I love this... appmanga Dec 2024 #3

WTH? SheltieLover Dec 2024 #7

Back in the 1980s, H2O Man Dec 2024 #26

An acquaintance of mine went to the pizza place Demobrat Dec 2024 #33

I think of these H2O Man Dec 2024 #41

I had nothing Demobrat Dec 2024 #42

At such time, H2O Man Dec 2024 #60

"where he tells his girlfriend's brother he has 'an appointment on earth'" snot Dec 2024 #144

🙄 Rebl2 Dec 2024 #123

Bringing parents to an interview is a new level of pathetic. Noel Kums Dec 2024 #15

No kidding! calimary Dec 2024 #25

And who the hell are these parents who would agree... 3catwoman3 Dec 2024 #28

My God. Are these parents actually sitting in on the interview and prompting their kids answers? brush Dec 2024 #86

I still remember in 1985, I moved to NYC for a job and was looking for an apartment... bsiebs Dec 2024 #29

I still wouldn't live bamagal62 Dec 2024 #57

I lived at 10th St and Avenue A in 1972 Lulu KC Dec 2024 #69

I lived at 7th and Ave B ('76-77?) Nittersing Dec 2024 #102

Ahh, Alphabet City DebbieCDC Dec 2024 #72

I had a colleague, Leo, who received a call from a student spooky3 Dec 2024 #54

The chair of a science department told me she got calls from the parents of young faculty. yardwork Dec 2024 #105

I wonder how she replied? :-) spooky3 Dec 2024 #116

She reminded them that she couldn't talk at all, due to laws, etc. yardwork Dec 2024 #124

I find that seriously hard to believe Skittles Dec 2024 #85

I had to tell a friend of mine not to go with her son to his first interview. Mariana Dec 2024 #90

The children of very wealthy people don't even have to suffer the indignity of a real interview. hunter Dec 2024 #118

That sounds like cat litter in the classroom exboyfil Dec 2024 #133

Read a version of this story a couple of wks ago. This blew me away. Also mentioned allegorical oracle Dec 17 #161

I know a woman who works at a university to get students thru the program for teaching certification Attilatheblond Dec 17 #167

Bet they love AI. nt allegorical oracle Dec 17 #169

Maybe the ones who can spell it Attilatheblond Dec 17 #172

This has been going on for over 30 years Meowmee Dec 2024 #4

Good grief! SheltieLover Dec 2024 #10

Yes and endless tv shows, movies, video games etc. Meowmee Dec 2024 #13

YouTube is for geezers JoseBalow Dec 2024 #34

I think you're correct on that, Jose. Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #44

I like YouTube too! JoseBalow Dec 2024 #47

Back at ya, friend! Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #53

Same here. Some of the You Tube videos that I watch are movie length, wnylib Dec 2024 #112

I'm no youngster by any means, but I spends hours a day on YouTube Polybius Dec 2024 #70

And a lot of those shorts have tik-tok watermarks... getagrip_already Dec 2024 #126

I should have been more clear Polybius Dec 2024 #130

"I'm going to be talking about the Mona Lisa by Leonardo DiCaprio." Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #43

Yup 😹😹 Meowmee Dec 2024 #52

Yeah. AI hasn't quite worked out its kinks. PeaceWave Dec 28 #179

At Least Both Of Them... ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #121

Yes, lol 😹 Meowmee Dec 2024 #155

I wouldn't put my name on what I have seen come out of AI so far exboyfil Dec 2024 #135

Some of it is ok, if what I tested was ai etc. Meowmee Dec 2024 #156

Some of this pre-dates COVID. I work at a law firm. LisaM Dec 2024 #5

How much of this has to do with college? Renew Deal Dec 2024 #9

Professors have their own issues, including parents. LisaM Dec 2024 #18

Wouldn't IEPs cosmic wheels Dec 2024 #30

My daughter had an IEP, and she isn't cognitvely impaired. She is quadriplegic with a speech disability, deurbano Dec 2024 #55

Yes, you can have an IEP for ADD Lulu KC Dec 2024 #63

I've heard this multiple times from different disconnected people in different regions Renew Deal Dec 2024 #6

One of my hot buttons. I watched academic cbabe Dec 2024 #11

Yes, we tried to save money and cut corners by dumbing down what was asked of kids meadowlander Dec 2024 #80

It wasn't just about saving money. snot Dec 2024 #145

Today's teachers came up during the "No Child Left Behind" period FakeNoose Dec 17 #170

Twas ever thus. They said this about GenX and Millennials too. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2024 #12

Gen X and Millennials are the ones who educated this generation IbogaProject Dec 2024 #24

My point being that when Gen X got to the workplace, there were plenty of scare pieces about them being unemployable. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2024 #31

I'm older Gen X & did not live as you did - TBF Dec 2024 #36

GenX has three cohorts IbogaProject Dec 2024 #38

Yep. That scheduled and supervised bamagal62 Dec 2024 #67

Born in '67. GaYellowDawg Dec 17 #162

Harvard started its writing program to handle the fact that students couldn't write Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #68

Yes, but... Karia Dec 2024 #119

IMO, readers are usually better writers. I'm curious if they're more empathetic too, generally. CrispyQ Dec 2024 #131

One my slogans: in order to write well, one must read well. Plus way too much screen cbabe Dec 17 #171

They live in a world with which we lack familiarity. cachukis Dec 2024 #14

In order to graduate with a four year degree, we had to write a 500 word essay. 2001 oldfart73 Dec 2024 #16

In the mid 1980s, I was on the faculty of the school of nursing... 3catwoman3 Dec 2024 #50

So, this isn't a brand-new phenomenon, unique to Gen Z? Mariana Dec 2024 #99

I know a college ReRe Dec 2024 #88

Have you read The Anxious Genrration SheltieLover Dec 2024 #17

Exactly! Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #134

Glad someone here has read it. SheltieLover Dec 2024 #139

Oh goody! I had wondered when the youth bash threads would start up again. Celerity Dec 2024 #19

I don't think it's youth bashing. LisaM Dec 2024 #20

I was talking about some of the replies. Celerity Dec 2024 #40

It is compassion for a problem we ALL have a role in propagating. Get a clue, Celerity. Really. hlthe2b Dec 2024 #22

I was talking about some of the replies, and please do not tell me to 'get a clue' Celerity Dec 2024 #45

You help no one by denying the problem exists. Is it new? No. Only getting worse. And yes, the ageism hlthe2b Dec 2024 #49

You do not have right to condescend to me. EOS Celerity Dec 2024 #58

You do not have the right to call out every other DUer on this thread that you disagree with-- hlthe2b Dec 2024 #59

The examples I gave were youth bashing. You cannot spin that. Celerity Dec 2024 #64

Well, at least there's no bashing of Abolishinist Dec 2024 #81

Awww, thanks! Celerity Dec 2024 #84

Sorry that some feel the need to crap on your posts Celerity Docreed2003 Dec 17 #164

thank you for the kind words Celerity Dec 17 #174

Btw, 'my abuse?' That is rich. especially coming from you, who condescendingly told me to 'get a clue' Celerity Dec 2024 #62

You are correct Cirsium Dec 2024 #73

It isn't strange for DU. It is par for the course. I have tried to get so many of social set, most of them in the 18 Celerity Dec 2024 #82

Get a clue, Celerity. This abusive disconnect you have for those who are concerned for hlthe2b Dec 2024 #96

I just read the article Cirsium Dec 2024 #127

Note: snot Dec 2024 #146

You do yourself no favors...Most here want to help. The question is, do YOU? hlthe2b Dec 2024 #95

Just stepping in briefly here, then swiftly out again Emrys Dec 17 #157

Most here are concerned, want to help and take blame for the system that has failed several generations now hlthe2b Dec 17 #159

Do I care? Well, I can read. Emrys Dec 17 #160

Tell 'em!!! NNadir Dec 2024 #138

if students cannot do the work. flunk them. does them no favors to do the work for them msongs Dec 2024 #23

There is a Reddit subforum called r/BoomersBeingFools milestogo Dec 2024 #27

Don't trust anyone over 30.... reACTIONary Dec 2024 #35

I'm with you, milestogo ReRe Dec 2024 #87

Lol there is a subreddit for just about everything. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #92

I take it you weren't one of the Boomers who were out there protesting Mariana Dec 2024 #98

Its one thing to protest policies milestogo Dec 2024 #106

It makes me very sad that there's so little respect for all kinds of people nowadays. snot Dec 2024 #147

The next generation has been going to doom us all for centuries. Gore1FL Dec 2024 #32

Right? "The younger generation sucks," said every generation ever. Orrex Dec 2024 #37

I work as a substitute and I demand every student finish at least one assignment kimbutgar Dec 2024 #39

we've been getting new hires at work. I can firmly say that most of them lack proper grammar, punctuation... Javaman Dec 2024 #46

I was hired by a bank manager to teach cbabe Dec 2024 #48

Next Year, They'll Just Buy... ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #122

A lot of the "correction" software I've experienced snot Dec 2024 #148

Good One! ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #154

Wait.... After Trump and his ilk get rid of the DOE, our kids won't be able to do any jobs that requires any.... William Gustafson Dec 2024 #51

I think this is an excuse a generation of humans growing up in our Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #56

Going to disagree in part rpannier Dec 2024 #65

The world, most countries, have began the industrialization Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #76

When parents pour so much time and energy into over-parenting, snot Dec 2024 #150

See post 17 SheltieLover Dec 2024 #103

Some I know think they can do their whole job with their phone nini Dec 2024 #61

I've seen this article angrychair Dec 2024 #66

I have reason to believe it's accurate Renew Deal Dec 2024 #71

It's completely anecdotal angrychair Dec 2024 #79

Not any more than your story Renew Deal Dec 2024 #91

Well no problem. There will be no Department of Education flamingdem Dec 2024 #74

The Dept of Education wasn't formed until 1980 MichMan Dec 2024 #83

Nothing new Cirsium Dec 2024 #75

Socialized different. Probably technology related Sympthsical Dec 2024 #77

In my experience with medical students, I've seen much of the same Docreed2003 Dec 17 #163

I've worked in an administrator position for 18 years now, where I hire professional and support staff. lees1975 Dec 2024 #78

Do they improve over time at the job ? JI7 Dec 2024 #89

All deez yutes need to git off my lawn. Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #93

A couple of things: no_hypocrisy Dec 2024 #94

Writing is BIG in law. Son was always a good writer but said in law school he really learned how to write. LizBeth Dec 2024 #117

Why wouldn't parents go to job interviews with their parents tinymontgomery Dec 2024 #97

Odd...my two older Gen Z kids Bettie Dec 2024 #100

My youngest son is in so called, "Generation Z" NNadir Dec 2024 #101

My experience with my neices and nephew, as well as my interns at work too Johnny2X2X Dec 2024 #111

Thank you. I fully agree. NNadir Dec 2024 #114

I agree. My sons are 29 and 27. I love their perspective/attitude and peers. Well educated. LizBeth Dec 2024 #120

I was a professor at a good university for years róisín_dubh Dec 2024 #104

Now I'm curious snot Dec 2024 #151

It's a work in progress! róisín_dubh Dec 17 #158

How much did home schooling contribute to their social incompetence? nt in2herbs Dec 2024 #107

Spend 20 minutes on tik tok... getagrip_already Dec 2024 #109

Tik tok is a filter which draws a certain subset of people. NNadir Dec 2024 #113

I dont have an account either, but it bleeds to other services getagrip_already Dec 2024 #125

My point is not about whether you or I have an account. NNadir Dec 2024 #136

I think another factor snot Dec 2024 #152

So the problematic age range that we've seen ecstatic Dec 2024 #110

We wind up firing about 25% of the new hires, and another 50% quit. thatdemguy Dec 2024 #115

The phone addiction's as bad as snot Dec 2024 #153

The phone addiction - headphones and ear buds - are a huge problem. LisaM Dec 17 #175

Yes! snot Dec 18 #178

It's not just parenting that's the problem LogDog75 Dec 2024 #137

Horace said The Revolution Dec 2024 #140

I can't believe snot Dec 2024 #141

I could care less Renew Deal Dec 2024 #143

You know, Elessar Zappa Dec 28 #180

There are the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas mass shooting survivors & others that speak well to the generation... hlthe2b Dec 28 #181

I'm a Boomer... rasputin1952 Dec 28 #182

Wasn't this the "bubble boy" generation that had kids being brought up in a cocoon where everyone gets a trophy even Vinca Dec 28 #183

Sometimes the parents are to blame lanlady Dec 28 #184