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We would buy some beef from Argentina. Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One as he traveled from Florida to Washington, D.C., on Sunday.
If we do that, that will bring our beef prices down.
RainCaster
(13,221 posts)These folks voted for a dumbass and boy howdy, they got one.
Cheezoholic
(3,390 posts)More for me, none for thee.
Clouds Passing
(6,260 posts)First the Trump voting farmers in Rural America, and now the Trump voting Ranchers in Rural America..........Who's next ??????????
They must think they have totally rigged all voting in future elections, because they are now throwing huge masses of their voters under the bus, as no longer needed/useful.......
Clouds Passing
(6,260 posts)a womans right to her own body, and the chronic attack on lgbtq+ rights.
Even though a majotiy of these groups vote Democatic they/we are being thrown under the bus. Plus the millions of Democratic voters removed from red states voter rolls. The list seems endless!!
popsdenver
(727 posts)It's the PERFECT STORM, that they have been corruptly conspiring to create since the 1980 treasonous steal of the Reagan/Carter election.........
HWBush ran, what was, (before WBush & Trump), the most corrupt group of people ever, doing untold damage to the middle class.....
First it was HWBush, 1980-1992, then it was Cheney/Rumsfeld 2000-2008, and then Trump's Cabal, 2016-2020 & 2024>
Some of us Democrats were screaming our heads off from the rooftops, starting with the 1980 election.......
Even all of the so-called: "Reagan Democrats" were telling us we were fanatical, far left, crazy, nut jobs...........
And now, here we are today in 2025, seemingly in a check-mate situation..........
Clouds Passing
(6,260 posts)Now, for the first time, the whole story can be told.
It begins in the summer of 1968. Nixon feared a breakthrough at the Paris Peace talks designed to find a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam war, and he knew this would derail his campaign.
He therefore set up a clandestine back-channel involving Anna Chennault, a senior campaign adviser.
At a July meeting in Nixon's New York apartment, the South Vietnamese ambassador was told Chennault represented Nixon and spoke for the campaign. If any message needed to be passed to the South Vietnamese president, Nguyen Van Thieu, it would come via Chennault.
In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris - concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668
popsdenver
(727 posts)Also, at that time, in December 67 and January 68..... I was watching Johnson......McNamara was requesting an ADDITIONAL 250,000 to be drafted before the upcoming TET offensive........McNamara told the military recruiters to drop the IQ requirement to 80?, and to focus on the Black Population as they were the easiest pickings..........And to rush them through basic and get them to Viet Nam........
Johnson wanted to be seen as being tough in VietNam, Cambodia, and Laos, went along with it....Not sure the public new about Cambodia and Laos at that time.....
These soldiers/draftees were called "McNamara's Morons".......google it..........
Clouds Passing
(6,260 posts)popsdenver
(727 posts)a few HUNDRED thousand of soldiers, with the lack of brains of Forrest Gump, but without the Gump basic comprehension and heroics......
Interesting fact, probably has something to do with McNamara focusing on Blacks.......
Something like 11.3% of all the soldiers in Viet Nam were black, but the blacks accounted for something like 18% of the KIA's.........
I was nauseated with what was being done by Nixon & later Johnson..........but that was infinitesimal to what I am seeing now.
I am consumed, like countless others, with the ANGER I feel now, 24/7/365 and as far as the eye can see into the future.
I often ask people.........Do these Republican Politcians and Voters have kids or grandkids, or do they only care about themselves and their piss ant little short sighted, tiny microcosm worlds they live in??????????
It certainly has to be the later..................
Many of the people I see and talk to, STILL aren't paying attention to what has been going on for the last 45+ years, and especially the last nine years, and just going on about their lives................
"They have all been walking down the jungle path, swatting at mosquitoes, totally oblivious to the herd of charging elephants'"..... pun intended....