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Rhiannon12866

(226,317 posts) Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:10 PM Dec 10

Should President Biden Pardon The Innocent: Liz Cheney, Bennie Thompson, Jack Smith & Others? - Glenn Kirschner

It's being reported that President Joe Biden is considering issuing pardons to people who committed no crimes, but who are in Donald Trump crosshairs to be vindictively prosecuted.

There are strong arguments on either side of this volatile issue: whether the people who investigated, exposed and attempted to prosecute Trump for his crimes should be given pardons - even though they, themselves have committed no crimes - to prevent Trump's weaponized Justice Department from wrongfully prosecuting those people.

This video lays out the arguments on both sides of the issue. - Glenn Kirschner - 12/10/2024.

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Should President Biden Pardon The Innocent: Liz Cheney, Bennie Thompson, Jack Smith & Others? - Glenn Kirschner (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Dec 10 OP

I'm sure he will ask them if they want it first and go from there . FloridaBlues Dec 10 #1

And it would be a tough decision since we know that accepting a pardon is considered admission of guilt Rhiannon12866 Dec 10 #2

I don't think its an admission at all creeksneakers2 Dec 10 #3

I'm just saying that that's what acceptance of a pardon is considered, like all those last minute pardons by TFG Rhiannon12866 Dec 10 #5

For certain that's what the right will say creeksneakers2 Dec 10 #6

I certainly agree. But I'm just saying that some may refuse the pardons. Rhiannon12866 Dec 10 #8

Yes creeksneakers2 Dec 10 #9

The president is still deciding whether he'll go ahead with the pardons, last we heard Rhiannon12866 Dec 11 #10

Yes. Trump wants to create a world creeksneakers2 Dec 11 #11

sorry creeksneakers2 Dec 10 #7

sorry creeksneakers2 Dec 10 #4

FloridaBlues

(4,415 posts)

1. I'm sure he will ask them if they want it first and go from there .

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:05 PM

Dec 10

Rhiannon12866

(226,317 posts)

2. And it would be a tough decision since we know that accepting a pardon is considered admission of guilt

Reply to FloridaBlues (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:54 PM

Dec 10

But in the case of Jack Smith and the January 6th Committee members, they were just doing their respective jobs.

creeksneakers2

(7,614 posts)

3. I don't think its an admission at all

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:31 PM

Dec 10

Especially since we have oodles of proof of Trump's retribution plan.

Rhiannon12866

(226,317 posts)

5. I'm just saying that that's what acceptance of a pardon is considered, like all those last minute pardons by TFG

Reply to creeksneakers2 (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:40 PM

Dec 10

And what he says are his plans for the violent January 6th insurrectionists who are now in prison.

creeksneakers2

(7,614 posts)

6. For certain that's what the right will say

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:46 PM

Dec 10

I say we fight them with every weapon available.

Rhiannon12866

(226,317 posts)

8. I certainly agree. But I'm just saying that some may refuse the pardons.

Reply to creeksneakers2 (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:53 PM

Dec 10

creeksneakers2

(7,614 posts)

9. Yes

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:56 PM

Dec 10

And they have a right to do so. They may well end up regretting that decision.

Rhiannon12866

(226,317 posts)

10. The president is still deciding whether he'll go ahead with the pardons, last we heard

Reply to creeksneakers2 (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:06 AM

Dec 11

And it is pretty insane to have to issue pardons to protect those who committed no crimes, they just tried to hold a criminal to account which was their job.