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TexasTowelie

(117,763 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 08:44 AM Saturday

'He's very angry': Haberman on Trump's reaction to NY hush money case - CNN



President-elect Donald Trump will face no legal penalties for his conviction in the hush money case, a New York judge ruled. Judge Juan Merchan, however, upheld Trump’s conviction in the case, rejecting the president-elect’s effort to throw out the jury’s verdict because of his reelection. CNN's Paula Reid reports and CNN political analyst Maggie Haberman along with a panel of experts join CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.
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'He's very angry': Haberman on Trump's reaction to NY hush money case - CNN (Original Post) TexasTowelie Saturday OP
This should be good bucolic_frolic Saturday #1
At least THAT judge. Grins Saturday #13
"Will no one rid me of this troublesome judge?" SCantiGOP Saturday #16
I'll guess Merchan states "you are a convicted felon" and gives him probation underpants Saturday #2
Judge has announced that there will be no jail time. 3Hotdogs Saturday #4
How about an ankle monitor? n/t LastLiberal in PalmSprings Saturday #7
How about the orange jumpsuit ? Seinan Sensei Saturday #18
I always though being President pfitz59 Saturday #23
I think he's angry because his idiot supporters believe he's not really a felon unless he's sentenced. Baitball Blogger Saturday #3
How true! GreenWave Saturday #22
whaaaaaaah. The F'n, murdering, orange RAPIST, TRAITOR** is angry. niyad Saturday #5
There will be no jail and no probation. tetedur Saturday #6
In America, no man is above the law. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Saturday #8
I think he should be fined one dollar. rickford66 Saturday #9
No punishment? Justice matters. Saturday #10
Tough noogies, shitler. Mc Mike Saturday #11
Good. Ocelot II Saturday #12
I hope he gets so angry that he goes into cardiac arrest during his stupid YMCA dance. Crowman2009 Saturday #14
I think tsf should be forced to pay for the entire trial Blappy Saturday #15
Please tell me something else that makes me happy. badhair77 Saturday #17
Always knew there would be no jail time. Katinfl Saturday #19
Wilhoit's Law usonian Saturday #20
Quote from CNN Anchor: "THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS HERE!" Meaning no jail time. That is not GOOD news. usaf-vet Saturday #21
The conviction doesn't go away pfitz59 Saturday #24

3Hotdogs

(13,631 posts)
4. Judge has announced that there will be no jail time.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:18 AM
Saturday

Given that, I would support community service. Maybe a day of Anal Fistula picking up litter in a park.

pfitz59

(11,030 posts)
23. I always though being President
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:24 PM
Saturday

was the epitome of 'Community Service'. Until the ultimate self-server, Trump arrived on the scene.

Baitball Blogger

(48,550 posts)
3. I think he's angry because his idiot supporters believe he's not really a felon unless he's sentenced.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:00 AM
Saturday

So, now with the sentencing they'll have to resort to, well, it wasn't bad enough to be jailed.

niyad

(120,877 posts)
5. whaaaaaaah. The F'n, murdering, orange RAPIST, TRAITOR** is angry.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:52 AM
Saturday

So fucking what??? WE are angry that this piece of filth, hatred, cruelty and ignorance will once again soil the People's House. Frankly, I hope he gets so angry that he strokes out.

tetedur

(1,104 posts)
6. There will be no jail and no probation.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 09:56 AM
Saturday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/01/03/trump-new-york-hush-money-conviction-sentence/

New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan wrote in his ruling that he does not intend to sentence Trump to jail. He said he plans to order an “unconditional discharge,” a designation in New York criminal courts for a non-jail and non-probation sentence that carries no other obligations.


So what is left? A pat on the head? Go and sin no more? HA.

Trump was never going to be held responsible for his crimes. The Supreme Court and the District Courts just had to bend themselves into pretzels to get him off the hook and then all is well until he commits other crimes. But we know ahead of time now, you can charge him, you can convict him but you cannot punish him. He has gotten away with it all his life and he will continue.

rickford66

(5,719 posts)
9. I think he should be fined one dollar.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:01 AM
Saturday

He will have to spend millions trying to avoid the fine.

Ocelot II

(121,671 posts)
12. Good.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:09 AM
Saturday

He was never going to jail, though, and it was always totally unrealistic to think that he ever would. White-collar defendants almost never get jail time unless it's for something pretty extreme, e.g., Bernie Madoff. The actual crimes Trump was convicted of involved the falsification of business records - something hardly anybody goes to jail for. The maximum sentence as a Class E felony is four years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000. However, the exact penalty will depend on a range of factors, including the defendant's criminal history and other circumstances. I found only a couple of cases where the perps got prison sentences - one where a rental car company manager falsified customer rental agreements and one where a CEO altered the company's financial records to reflect false revenue numbers in order to mislead investors and shareholders and boost its stock price. Both of these cases involved financial losses to members of the general public, which might have been a factor in the prison sentences.

Trump certainly deserves more punishment than he's going to get, but the fact that he's very, very angry shows that just the fact of the 34 felony convictions is a significant penalty to him. He will go down in history as the only president inaugurated as a convicted felon and there's not a damn thing he can do about it. The hit to his ego is massive and I love it.

Blappy

(143 posts)
15. I think tsf should be forced to pay for the entire trial
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 10:34 AM
Saturday

He is most definitely guilty after all. No penalty whatsoever is a kick in the groin to the rule of law, to the jurors and to the taxpayers. Absolutely disgusting.

Katinfl

(271 posts)
19. Always knew there would be no jail time.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:33 AM
Saturday

He was never going to serve any time and it was foolish to ever think he would. I seem to recall hearing that in NY you are not a “convicted” felon until sentencing. Think maybe the judge wants to make the convictions legal and on record, therefore the “sentencing”. This judge is making the statement that the jury found him guilty on all counts and that decision could not/should not be tossed aside. A jury of his peers came to that decision. So it will go down in the history books that we had a convicted felon in the Oval Office, but with no consequences. Go figure. Justice is not equal, but at least he will have received a sentence, however meaningless. I bet the judge will give a pretty rough tongue lashing though. IMO.

usonian

(14,894 posts)
20. Wilhoit's Law
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:42 AM
Saturday
https://slate.com/business/2022/06/wilhoits-law-conservatives-frank-wilhoit.html

Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” This seems increasingly true.


THAT SAID, there's a certain irony in this.

The core belief of maga is cruelty.
Make others suffer.



And if this triggers the Malicious Mandarin even more, great.
Schadenfreude post here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19863580
THIS SHOULD CHEER YOU UP.


usaf-vet

(7,059 posts)
21. Quote from CNN Anchor: "THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS HERE!" Meaning no jail time. That is not GOOD news.
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 11:50 AM
Saturday

Slanting the announcement....... were the first words out of her mouth.

pfitz59

(11,030 posts)
24. The conviction doesn't go away
Sat Jan 4, 2025, 05:26 PM
Saturday

The charges don't go away. He just doesn't serve time. Still a felon. No exoneration.

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