Thanks, Idiots.

[Robb]

Quite a rant from the fine folks at Pistol-Training.com:

Thanks, Idiots

To all of the in-your-face tough guy Open Carry zealots who held Starbucks rallies such as the one pictured here, thanks.



Thanks for forcing a major, high profile international corporation into choosing between its image and yours.

Thanks for making such complete idiots of yourselves with your “Look Ma, I’ve got a gun and a coffee at the same time!” antics that what had been a nice political win for our side is now a huge media circus about how Starbucks finally said stop bringing guns into our stores.

You can croon about how you’re educating the public all you want, but it’s bullcrap. And here’s a perfect example. Did you convert the average American? No. But you scared enough soccer moms, kids, and coffee jockeys that Starbucks was forced to take action.

It was you that turned Starbucks into a political battleground. It was you that couldn’t just take the victory of Starbucks saying it would abide by local laws rather than ban guns. It was you who had to push the limits and do things utterly unacceptable among almost any normal community in the United States just so you could brag to your equally moronic Facetwit buddies. You did this. You gave the entire Second Amendment movement a huge black eye. You just educated America, all right, you educated them into believing that gun owners are a bunch of retarded monkeys who’ll throw feces the first chance they get if it’s legalized.

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To any of our Progressive Gun Enthusiasts(tm) who are reading: please, ignore this guy. Keep it up!

[gopiscrap]

1. Yes Gun Owners-FUCK YOU!

specially those who support the NRA

[BainsBane]

2. Not gun owners, gun extremists

Most gun owners actually support reforms like expanded background checks, limits on magazine capacity, and even assault weapons bans.

[gopiscrap]

3. OK I will stipulate

but I am of the belief that we should ban all guns...

[BainsBane]

4. It's not happening

SCOTUS has interpreted the 2nd Amendment to guarantee an individual right to bear arms.

[Oakenshield]

6. And SCOTUS says corporations are people.

The SCOTUS isn't worth a god damn thing to me.

[BainsBane]

17. You might not like them, but they set the law

It's an unavoidable fact.

[rurallib]

19. Its just like they didn't read it

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State

[BainsBane]

21. I agree

Sadly, it's not up to me. It's not that I don't think people should be able to own guns at all, but it's gotten so out of control that guns come before everything else. It is truly insane.

[Enthusiast]

11. That is a losing issue.

[Starboard Tack]

29. Then you are an extremist.

Outright bans are no solution.

[Squinch]

27. I'm starting to think registration is needed too.

[mwrguy]

5. Gunhumpers show their true face

get kicked to the curb.

[BainsBane]

22. They certainly did

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They showed their true colors here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023692025
and here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172131721

[ewagner]

7. I respect

whoever authored this article. It says that there are a lot of SANE gun-owners out there and I have no objection to them (I own a gun myself...full disclosure) but I do object to those paranoids who "pack" and walk the streets looking for a "perp" to use their gun on.

Thankfully there is some sanity in the gun world.

[Robb]

9. You and me both.

If you'd like to be further relieved, read the comments, the majority of them are quite positive.

[Starboard Tack]

30. +100

I think most gun owners are sane. Only a small percentage routinely carry loaded weapons in public. Unfortunately that number is growing, thanks to the NRA and other fear mongers. They are the problem.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Why do gunowners hate Starbucks so much that they want to scare customers away, cut profits?

Same goes for the other places they show up at. Why do they hate those establishments?

If an open carry shows up at one of them, I'll clear out and not come back for some time, lest I get into a verbal confrontation which would lead who knows where.

[MicaelS]

10. Open Carry Buffoons ...

Do a great deal of damage to the RKBA, and the rest of Gun Owners who have more brains and common sense than to Open Carry. They deliberately alienate people just to make a point.

Open Carry Buffoons are the worst advertisement for Gun Ownership possible.

Yes, I said that and I meant every word of it.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

14. I'm not too thrilled with concealed carry, either.

Would be better if

1. people learned as children how to manage conflict and their anger; and
2. the social framework was functioning fairly.

[JaneyVee]

12. LOLZ.

[yesphan]

13. The guy may be an idiot

but is that a musket he's packing?

[Half-Century Man]

16. It looks like a percussion cap muzzle loader.

I doubt it is vintage. If you absolutely have to pack in public, a single shot weapon is what I prefer you carry.

I did notice the dipshit with the mag fed military knock off, who was resting his weapon muzzle down on a brick surface. I thought that if you were transporting a weapon, it had to be unloaded.

[yesphan]

23. Holy crap!

I didn't see that clown. Ricochet !

[Half-Century Man]

25. Tiny pieces of brick slicing through the air.

Rifle leaping backwards smacking dumbass in the head.........well thank G*D for small favors.

[Control-Z]

37. Just when and where would that be, Half-Century Man?

"If you absolutely have to pack in public, a single shot weapon is what I prefer you carry."

Are there public places where it is required?

[Half-Century Man]

38. I just saying that If someone felt they HAD to carry a weapon in public,

that a single shot would be what I am most comfortable with.

[Control-Z]

39. Boy did I read that wrong.

So wrong. I thought you said when you have to carry in public. Lol.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

15. Next step: Get the anti-Government militias to realize the public thinks they're idiots.

[Squinch]

28. Or, as they drill during their weekend sleepovers, between trips to Dunkin Donuts and the

Cheesecake Factory, show them what a tank looks like.

I see a lot of doughy middle aged guys thinking, "oh, shit. This isn't going to work!"

[Spitfire of ATJ]

34. With their egos? They think, "I can take that."

[BrainDrain]

18. Fuck guns.....

....and fuck anyone who thinks they have a God given right to own one. The Second Amendment is not about your "right to keep and bear arms", it's about the establishment of a militia, which was necessary at the time because there was no large standing army. And since we no longer have a militia, the second amendment is due for repeal.

So all you "progressive" gun owners take a hike, cause there ain't no such thing. Cause if you call yourself a "progressive" on the one hand and agree with the guns nutz on the other, you better get some serious treatment for split-personality disorder.

Fuck guns, and fuck the pain they cause and the heart ache and the tears. Fuck'em all.

[Skittles]

20. I don't see through you

[toby jo]

24. Totally agree. "... the pain they cause and the heart ache and the tears."

[Starboard Tack]

33. You sound a little angry, but blaming all gun owners is kinda silly.

Of course, nobody has a God given right to own one or carry one. It takes money to buy one and either balls or stupidity to carry one.
The 2nd Amendment is definitely due for a rewrite, at the very least.
There is no such thing as a "progressive gun owner", though a gun owner may be progressive in other ways. Owning a gun is neither regressive nor progressive, while carrying a gun is definitely regressive.
Fuck those who carry guns around other people, but don't blame all gun owners for the pain, heartache and tears.

[demwing]

26. it occurs to me that we need a Gun Nut version of the "Billionaires for Bush" troop

you know, people using over-the-top satire to push an issue to such an extreme position that even the most lazy-minded American finally gets it...

[BainsBane]

35. Oh but we do

and they are quite close by.

[demwing]

36. DU tell... /nt

[samsingh]

31. they are stupid morons - intellectually simplistic

either cowards, fools, and/or bullies.

[samsingh]

32. i make it a point to go to Starbucks - they are on my 'a'

list for showing such class.

[SQUEE]

40. While I am an avid shooter

I agree with the Starbucks, they tried to stay out of it, and follow local laws. The attention whore idiots pushed and pushed, and finally Starbucks Inc decided that the money was in no longer allowing this stupidity. People took a no comment to be some tacit agreement, and screwed themselvs. This morning I left my guns in the truck ( as I always do anyway) and had a tasty Pumpkin spice latte and tipped with a 2 dollar bill that said "right choice on it". I completely support Starbucks on their decision.

[bobclark86]

41. Oh, c'mon...

At least the muzzle-loader is closer to the original intent of the amendment than some guy with an AR or a big black Glock ... lol.