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Thought this piece might brighten our day.
Oops-- edited to add the link: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/28/answering-questions-asked-of-feminists-by-a-misogynist/
Answering questions asked of feminists by a misogynist
By Amanda Marcotte
Thursday, August 28, 2014
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6. Does feminism benefit men? If so give one such example.
Feminism does not have to benefit men to be valid. If women are human beings, then fighting for women to be treated fairly and with dignity is enough. Only someone who believes women are put on earth to serve men would think that feminism is invalid unless it serves men. If someone is telling you to take your boot off their neck and you say, Whats in it for me? you are not just a dick, you are a cartoon villain. George Lucas might hesitate before putting you in a childrens movie, you are such a one-note wanker.
The fact of the matter is that many men are threatened by feminism because feminism does present a threat to their unearned privilege. If you need to feel superior to half of humans based on a coin flip because you dont have anything genuinely good about yourself to be proud of, I believe that feminism is totally a threat to you. If you enjoy having to work less hard for more goodies, well yeah, feminism is a threat to you. If you want women to be submissive and treat you with respect your sorry ass does not deserve, a movement that tells them they dont have to do that is going to be scary.
Put another way: Imagine someone serves a piece of pie to two people. One person says, I am going to eat 90 percent of this pie because I want to. The other person says, Fuck no you wont. Were sharing this, as thats only fair. In one sense, the person demanding 90 percent is going to feel threatened, since, after all, they wanted 90 percent. But that sense of feeling threatened demonstrates that this person is made of nothing but grade A asshole. If you need a more intellectualized discourse about fairness, read Rawls, but most of us grasp that fairness is a just goal intrinsically.
7. How come I am nowhere to be found when bad feminists are giving feminism a bad name?
Of course, he believes, as someone opposed to feminism, he decides who is a good feminist and a bad feminist. I suspect bad feminists are the ones who are effective at promoting the idea that men and women are equal. Or maybe he means this:
Anyway, I thought this gif might come in handy:
boston bean
(36,568 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,496 posts)In theory, nothing. In practice, people who say they are egalitarian but not feminist are people who believe in the equality of all people, but quietly dont include women in the category people. (Though, to be fair, I find theyre usually racist, too, and if you push them hard enough, they tend to have a very narrow definition of people that usually only covers people that look like them.) They do this because they find it convenient to relegate women to a servant class and good for their ego to assume that they are better than half the human race simply because nature flipped a coin and they came up male.
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(38,613 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,903 posts)discussion of misogyny, violence against women, equal rights, etc... and we can all name the usual monikers. lol, but don't, I got a hide for that. But, you ARE allowed to be a passive-aggressive jerk about it.