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[Sheldon Cooper]

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[longship]

1. Wow! Member since 2002. nt

[Sheldon Cooper]

2. 12 years a troll.

What a sad and pathetic person, to devote 12 freaking years to something so odious.

[Tarheel_Dem]

26. He fooled SOME folks for quite awhile. You Better Believe It!

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. didnt fool this Dem!

[Tarheel_Dem]

29. Nor this one! There's plenty more where that one came from, but they'll eventually lose it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

30. lets continue to fight back.....

And enjoy thier implosions...

[Tarheel_Dem]

31. Right back at ya!

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. good I need the help!

[mercuryblues]

3. So his

stunts for the past few days caught up to him.

writing an innocuous post, having it alerted on (most likely by a buddy) then when it passes the alert, change it. Then using his position as a host to do some more dirty work.

[Sheldon Cooper]

4. I'm so surprised and happy to see that his stunts were handled in the only appropriate manner.

[mercuryblues]

5. his last

OP should have been "I'll be back"

Shocked I am.

[Jackpine Radical]

53. Psst--I got a pic of the alerter--

[TDale313]

6. This is good news. Glad to see it. n/t

[BainsBane]

7. This is a shocker to me

I'm not going to grave dance. I didn't care for the guy, but I'm stunned. I think it was locking his own thread that did him in.

[Phentex]

8. I will cha cha, waltz, break dance and limbo...

for all of us!

You have been very civil. I commend you for it.

[Sheldon Cooper]

9. I think that had a big hand in it, but I also think his apparently deliberate

manipulation of the jury system had a hand in it as well. The only thing that shocks me is that he was actually kicked out - I didn't expect that. So, I'll grave dance twice!

[BainsBane]

10. Oh, by editing a post to include the name of a DUer?

afer the post had already been alerted on? Is that what you mean?

[Sheldon Cooper]

12. Yes.

It might have actually been an honest mistake, but given his other behavior I'm not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that. Besides, lol'ing at a gravely ill DUer is just a shitty, trollish thing to do.

[BainsBane]

14. It certainly is.

[mercuryblues]

11. yup

using his position as host and the alert sidestep to post some awful stuff.

[shenmue]

13. Yay

[Tuesday Afternoon]

15. wow. 2002. All these years, I never noticed his politics until recently.

How many juries did he sit ... ?

[JTFrog]

23. 238. n/t

[trumad]

16. almost every single thread involving a woman issue

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He'd hop in and stink it up. He was on my list of about 5 guys who do that type of thing.

Good riddance.

[MadrasT]

17. Yep. That one was on my radar a LONG time ago. n/t

[sufrommich]

18. I expect there will be a thread at Discussionist explaining how the

nasty HoF/Feminazis ordered the admins to ban him,because as we all know,HoF has the power to ban here at DU,so does the BOG.

[ismnotwasm]

20. LOL

That almost-- but not quite makes me want to see the happenings over there.

I

[BainsBane]

22. Even though many of his harshest critics

Do not post in HOF.

[kcr]

42. It's already been hinted at here

Big surprise

[theHandpuppet]

19. Hopefully EarlG will make those changes he's proposing

Otherwise, this will happen over and over again.

[BainsBane]

21. Which changes?

[Agschmid]

36. Updates to hosting...

There is a thread in hosts about it.

I'd be happy to copy paste it here if you can't see it?

[BainsBane]

37. I don't have access to that group

[Agschmid]

38. Here you go...

Message to all hosts

We are currently in the process of planning changes to the way the Hosts forum works.

In the meantime, please remember that your job is to help DU run smoothly, not create unnecessary drama.

In some ways this job is not easy. We give you an SOP to enforce, but we also give you discretion to use your own judgment. Disagreement is expected. But in other ways, the job is easy: all you are trying to do is decide whether something should be locked or not.

There is no reason for threads in this forum to have 50, 60, 70 or more replies, and go on for multiple days, complete with long subthreads full of personal attacks and accusations of bias. It is just not necessary.

It may take us some time to complete the planned changes to the Hosts forum. In the meantime we expect all hosts to be able to work together as a team and not cause additional problems.

[BainsBane]

39. Good

I hope it involves getting rid of hosts who act based on their views of particular posters rather than the SOP of the forum. The other problem is that with rules so arbitrarily enforced, it makes it very difficult to know what is and isn't allowed. Meta posts, for example. They are common place, yet for some reason they aren't okay if some people post them. It is irrational and impairs the running of the site. If they want to ban Meta posts, then ban them all and make it known.

[Agschmid]

40. I think it will be a move away from hosts completely, but that's just a guess.

Consistency is quite hard to get with 20 people of different backgrounds, opinions, and beliefs.

And yes sometimes we act differently because of recognized and even unrecognized bias towards posters.

It's frustrating as a member and as a host.

[BainsBane]

41. Those posts someone copied in my thread

Were eye opening to say the least. It was clear that some weren't even trying to be fair.

Thanks for the update.

[DURHAM D]

47. One of the problems is that 20 hosts are not participating.

From the beginning of DU3 a few hosts always control the process.

I was a GD Host early on and several I was serving with had previously been Moderators on DU2. In fact, for many months the old Moderators still had access to user profiles (real names, history of posting, email addresses, etc.) and they used that info to drive their own agendas. There was a real shit storm when everyone found out they had access and were still going back to DU2 to do their "research". Some Hosts still use "Moderator Rules" instead of the current instructions.

Anyway, there is a group of people who always want to be Hosts and many were previously Moderators. Keep in mind that on DU2 they did not cycle off - they were permanent positions.
What I am trying to explain is that many of the Host repeaters are very intimidating and someone hosting for the first time will just simply stop participating. It is made more difficult by the fact that all of the instruction from the admin are open to interpretation. Nothing is ever straight forward because they want Hosts to use their own best judgment but that is an invitation to the bullies (and garden variety know-it-alls) to have their way and intimidate other hosts.

The first step in fixing GD Hosts is to remove the constant repeaters and the admin need to moderator the Hosts for awhile and actually write some rules instead of gibberish.

Also, GD needs to stop being the Lounge and management needs to figure out a way to stop all the vanity posts by a couple of posters.

[JI7]

24. if it was anyone else i wouldn't be surprised considering how obvious that one was

the racist comments throughout the years in themselves should have got him banned.

only surprised because that one had been allowed to get away with it for so long. but notice it took an admin going over what many hosts, juries etc had kept allowing.

[F4lconF16]

43. Perhaps, but for the right reasons

as far as many of us are concerned. I know I'd be pretty unpopular on any conservative website

[BainsBane]

46. Thanks!

Not a conservative bone in my body, that's for sure.

[Squinch]

66. Reading this and the other thread, I don't think he WAS that popular.

Seems like a few people who feel sad that such a longtime member is gone, but not a lot of people who thought he was all that peachy.

And, BB, you know we love you!

[BainsBane]

67. juries and hosts protected him

so he was popular among them.

Thanks, Squinch. Back at ya.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. yyeah finally some ccomeuppance!

[redqueen]

33. It strikes me as odd that in a thread meant to celebrate

the long - deserved tombstoning of a DUer who was fond of posting racist and sexist shit, someone is whining about the 'mean girls' who picked on him.

[Sheldon Cooper]

34. "Mean girl" here, checking in.

Quite a hoot, isn't it?

[redqueen]

35. It's certainly something.

quinnox has been posting racist and sexist shit for a good while now. Not sure how anyone could miss it really, let alone blame women for reacting to it.

[MadrasT]

44. If "mean girl" means does not swallow shit and pretend it is chocolate,

Then hell yes, I am a mean girl.

[gollygee]

45. Holy crap

I go on vacation and have limited internet access, and I come back, and this has happened!

[BainsBane]

48. Well I guess I got called out

for being a liar and needing to be PPR'd. A few people have PMed me to tell me a cryptic OP was about me. Don't know what my lies are supposed to be though.

[stevenleser]

49. Interesting. I thought it was about VC and it prompted me to write the support OP.

That's the problem when folks write weird cryptic attack OPs like that.

[BainsBane]

50. Oh, I wouldn't think so

No, I doubt that. What lie could VC have told about this? She hasn't been posting.

[stevenleser]

51. Edited to incl link -I wonder now if we are talking about the same OP or if there are more than one?

Will find a link to the one I was talking about.

On Edit: This is the one - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025218635

[BainsBane]

63. That's it. Consensus is it's about me

and the dryer comment to hrmjustin confirms it. He and I are pretty friendly, and she is accusing him of being my sock, or my being his, or something. Definitely not about VC.

[stevenleser]

69. It all is so bizarre I dont even know what to say.

Sorry you were attacked.

[Sheldon Cooper]

52. Oh, it was clearly about you.

That OP is really pretty creepy.

[BainsBane]

54. I guess I'm dense

I knew she didn't like me, but I didn't why she's go that far.

[Sheldon Cooper]

55. Yep, it was really over the top.

Hence, my description of creepy.

[BainsBane]

56. I wonder what set it off?

She did attack me last night, and the week before, but that's par for the course. Is it because of what I posted in this thread about thinking about what would happen in I were PPR'd? I've noticed that some people look with great disdain on any sort of self reflection, as a post I once made about gun discussions bringing out the worst in me has been thrown in my face countless times. I still don't see why that is such a bad think to think about.

Bravenak warned me last night people would blame me for Quinnox stepping down as host, though I don't see how the dots connect on that one. Nor do I get what lies I supposedly have told.

[Sheldon Cooper]

57. It started with the swarm thread, where she and a few others

Triumphantly chortled over something you said a hundred years ago, that they thought was such a clever trap for you. You were forthright and honest and addressed it head on which ruined all the fun. And yes I think your reflections about grave dancing were the catalyst for one of the creepier things I've seen around here.

[BainsBane]

58. So using words without being aware of them is a lie?

And then saying you're right, I need to be more careful in my word choice?
I have to wonder if some of the current nonsense at the cave about me might have played a role.

[Sheldon Cooper]

59. I don't know anything about that cave, but I suppose

It could all be related.

[BainsBane]

60. I don't know for sure

It just seemed so over the top.

[BainsBane]

61. I finally figured out what her dryer comment to hrmustin was about

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She was accusing him of being my sock, or my being his, like I pose as a gay male NYer in my spare time. I should perhaps take it as a compliment. Justin is so much more civil and tactful than I, it's hard to imagine how anyone could think we were the same person. Still, he doesn't deserve that kind of treatment just for the crime of being online friends with me.

[Sheldon Cooper]

64. I missed that comment. I guess it's further evidence tha she has a pretty creepy obsession with you.

Help is available, perhaps she'll seek it.

[TDale313]

62. Wow. Really nasty. n/t

[NuclearDem]

65. Wow, move g4a aside, we've got a record for most successful troll ever.

Glad he's gone.

[Phentex]

68. and if the thread isn't locked before everyone is given a chance to dance...

it could be the new Thread That Never Dies!

[Sheldon Cooper]

70. Folks, I'm going to self-delete my OP.

I noticed that bettyellen has been placed on a posting hiatus, and I don't want anyone else to start getting hidden or blocked - let's not add to that banished troll (or his cohorts') legacy.

Here is a copy of my OP, for the record:

Troll is banished back under the bridge!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=119344&sub=trans