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I am the daughter of Jewish parents who were children of Jewish parents who were children of Jewish parents. I went to Sunday School, flirted with a Bas Mitzvah but didn't get one. I toured Germany and Austria, visiting a vandalized synagogue in Augsburg and Dachau. And I "lost God". I literally left the religion during the Yom Kippur service in 1984. And now I am an atheist. But I'm still Jewish.
Compare my situation to that of a dear childhood friend.
He discovered after his parents' deaths that he was adopted. His (adoptive) parents raised him as a Conservative Jew. As an adult, he took the Ancestry DNA test and not one drop of Jewish blood. That raised flags. He found his biological parents, both non-Jews. My friend is modern Orthodox. He immigrated to Israel and lives in a West Bank settlement. He went to the Israeli rabbis to see if he still qualified as a "Jew" notwithstanding the bris and the bar mitzvah, Jewish wedding, raising a Jewish family. They deemed he was Jewish according to Israeli law (and Jewish law).
So here we both are: I'm born Jewish and have no faith and my friend was born non-Jewish and more Jewish in his life than I could ever expect to be. His faith is sincere and unfaltering.
We're both Jewish.
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hlthe2b
(107,714 posts)did not apply to Catholics (a family friend was both Jewish by blood AND choice but their husband was born to Catholic parents but not a follower of the faith). I think my perplexed parents trying to explain this to us were probably lucky we didn't have an Arab Muslim and likewise a Coptic Christian in the neighborhood to further the confusion.
But, I think this thing with Whoopi underscores that many Americans and particularly African Americans, may view this in a uniquely American perspective if they are not well versed in the 3500 years of history nor well-educated on the past two centuries of European history. And not being well informed/educated on history is once again a major problem for us and only underscores my sig line quote.
But, I appreciate your more contemporary irony.
Budi
(15,325 posts)And for your friend, a thank you to Israel & Jewish law.
I wasn't raised anywhere near the Jewish faith & practices, though I have always held a particular respect & affinity for their unity.& bond within their faith.
Though I too am of Jewish blood, was never given the opportunity to participate in the faith & practices, simply by the path of my family.
I do also know the decision to leave one's faith they were raised with, however.
agingdem
(8,541 posts)I never knew my grandparents, aunts, uncles they died in Auschwitz, Hitlers victims I am Jewish, ethnically and culturally, but I am not religious my late husband was half Jewish his mother was Baptist (she never converted) my mother-in-law made the conscious decision to follow her husbands faith and in doing so, she and her son were much better Jews than I will ever be both my children married non-Jews..my five grandchildren were raised without a faith and yet they all identify as Jewish my oldest granddaughter says its a DNA thing..my college age grandson, a member of a predominantly Jewish fraternity, is quick to anger when told he doesnt look Jewish..his response: I am a Jew and I have the bona-fides to prove it I am the great great grandson of Auschwitz survivors so stfu asshole!