Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumTher latest example of racism (or 'merely' white saviorism) from a gun control advocate
Playing on fears of armed minorities for political gain has been a constant theme in US political life, from Roger Taney
down to the present day with Michael Bloomberg.
One Oleg Volsky has decided to jump into the game. Apparently, he thinks Bloomie shouldn't be the only one
appealing to the subset of racists that don't like Trump:
https://gunsdownamerica.org/about/
Igor Volsky, Co-Founder and Executive Director
Igor Volsky is co-founder and the Director of Guns Down America. Igor has appeared on MSNBC, CNN, Fox Business, Fox News, and CNBC television, and he has been a guest on many radio shows. His work on gun violence prevention has appeared in USA Today, U.S. News and World Report and the Orlando Sentinel, among others. In 2011, Forbes named Igor one of their top 30 under 30 in Law & Policy. At Guns Down, he sets the overall strategy and leads our outreach efforts.
Link to tweet
That's right: gun makers are increasingly advertising to WOMEN, CHILDREN & MINORITY COMMUNITIES"
2/ Firearm industry realizes that to survive into the future it must "broaden its reach beyond the aging white men who have been its core customers" -- and so they're now trying to sell their products to other demographics.
This is incredibly dangerous.
Note: Emphasis added
ExciteBike66
(2,665 posts)I don't think he is saying it is dangerous to let minorities have guns. I think he is saying the gun industry is trying to expand its appeal, and that itself is dangerous.
Am I getting you correctly?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Volsky is a white man 'expressing his concern' about the claimed effects of gun makers extending their advertising efforts
upon, quote: "WOMEN, CHILDREN & MINORITIES".
None of which he is.
So, yeah- white savior complex- which IMO is little more than a genteel form of racism
Of course he'll say it's dangerous because guns...that's his assertion, no more and no less, and he's
free to make it-
BUT it's patronizing as fuck to purport to be looking out for the best interests of less-privileged
groups that you don't belong to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_savior
ExciteBike66
(2,665 posts)and he doesn't want those minorities (and women, and kids) to be idiots, I guess...
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Don't forget your pandemic prep while you're at it (seriously)
ExciteBike66
(2,665 posts)It's not necessarily that he is some sort of white savior, merely for pointing out the gun industry's latest strategy. By definition, any strategy put out by that industry is harmful. Guns are a problem, and more guns are more problems. Gun owners are also a problem.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Also, your arguments by assertion in defense of his statements are somewhat vague:
If your own words, why are these things 'harmful' and/or 'problem(s)'?
ExciteBike66
(2,665 posts)You are illustrating my comment about gun owners with this crap.
If guns were not harmful, the Army would still be armed with swords...
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Terry Pratchett, Jingo
Also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_nauseam
https://www.google.com/search?&q=appeal+to+commonsense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion
This fallacy is sometimes used as a form of rhetoric by politicians, or during a debate as a filibuster. In its extreme form, it can also be a form of brainwashing. Modern politics contains many examples of proofs by assertion. This practice can be observed in the use of political slogans, and the distribution of "talking points", which are collections of short phrases that are issued to members of modern political parties for recitation to achieve maximum message repetition. The technique is also sometimes used in advertising.
ExciteBike66
(2,665 posts)even though that is their only purpose for existing.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Don't take it too much to heart, it's a familar trope in the Gungeon
There is an active DUer that has used the same tactic for years against guns and gun owners, save that *his*
claim is that his personal editorial choices of pictures of groups of the people he despises provides the truth of
what he's saying about *every* member of said group(s)
The ban on hotlinking is really gonna cramp the style of him and his fellow practitioners
of 'argument via repeated assertion'