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The Trump administrations plan to dismantle an ocean observation system vital to understanding the climate crisis and marine ecosystems would severely degrade the accuracy of weather predictions and El Niño forecasts, with economic consequences for the US, European and American scientists have warned. Decommissioning the US system, which plays a major part in a global ocean observation network, would lead to a massive increase in error in the annual estimates of ocean heating rates, according to research published last month.
As a result, the forecasts and early warning systems for storms, tropical cyclones and El Niño would degrade, sometimes dangerously so, according to Sabrina Speich, an expert in global ocean monitoring at the Ecole Normale Supérieure (ENS) in Paris and chair of the ocean expert panel of the Global Climate Observing System. The Ocean Observatories Initiative (OOI), run by the US National Science Foundation, is a vast network of seafloor systems, underwater gliders and moored surface platforms that feeds data to researchers, policymakers, educators and mariners worldwide. The initiative, which covers both US coastlines and extends into the North Atlantic and Southern Ocean, has been used to study marine heatwaves, harmful algal blooms, subduction zone earthquakes, ocean acidification and fisheries variability.
Dismantling it would remove a major component of the Global Ocean Observing System (GOOS), a network of robotic floats, moored buoys and research vessels experts describe as the eyes and ears of the ocean. The warning systems based on the data, save lives, experts say. Prescient research published in Nature Climate Change last month showed how data losses in GOOS, a UN-coordinated framework for ocean data for weather and climate collected by several countries, could degrade the ocean heat estimates that underpin weather prediction, El Niño forecasting and fisheries management. Losing US observations would be worse than randomly losing 80% of all ocean data worldwide, it found. US-funded platforms span every ocean basin, plugging critical gaps that no other nation currently fills.
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The US suffered more than 400 climate and weather disasters where damages exceeded or reached $1bn, between 1980 and 2024. In 2024 alone, the costs of such disasters amounted to $177bn. This billion dollar climate and weather product, managed by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) will no longer be updated due to evolving priorities, according to a note on its website. The system, is, (Ed. - Engineering professor John) Abraham said is quite an inexpensive way to reduce climate-related costs. This is not about saving money, this is about killing climate science research, Abraham said.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/05/trump-plan-ocean-monitoring-system-concern-scientists
rampartd
(5,265 posts)sea surface temperature. this might be useful if i were looking russian submarines.
but maybe we are all russian now?
maybe these things are useful beyond climate and weather considerations, are extremely expensive to produce and deploy, that the most valued data depends on long term fixed point measurement?
not sure i can say much more in DEFENSE of these systems. maybe satellite technology has replaced these tools, maybe the satellite technology is confirmed/calibrated by real time measurement??
The Blue Flower
(6,628 posts)In terms of money and loss of life and property. Makes no sense.