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hatrack

(64,746 posts)
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:15 AM Dec 2025

What Could Possibly Go Wrong? Private Companies Are Doing Small-Scale Solar Engineering w/o Regulation

For as little as $1, you can dim the sun — just a tiny bit — to save the world from climate change. At least, that’s the promise sold by a California start-up called Make Sunsets. Your dollar will pay for founder Luke Iseman to drive a Winnebago RV into the hills half an hour outside Saratoga, California, to release a balloon loaded with sulfur dioxide, an air pollutant normally spewed by volcanic eruptions. He and his 1,000 paying customers hope the balloon will burst in the stratosphere, releasing particles that will block sunlight and cool the planet.

Iseman’s sun-blocking activities — which aren’t officially approved by any government on Earth, but aren’t illegal under California law — are an example of a controversial tactic called “solar geoengineering.” It has been the subject of many science fiction stories, conspiracy theories and at least one U.S. spy report warning that it could spark real-world wars. And now it’s becoming a private industry. Make Sunsets has raised more than $1 million from investors and sold more than $100,000 worth of “cooling credits” to customers this year. A better-funded competitor, Stardust, has raised $75 million to develop a more sophisticated geoengineering method it says will be ready to launch by the end of the decade — although its founders vow they won’t deploy their technology unless a government hires them to do so.

The companies have sparked debate about the role private firms should play in tinkering with the global climate. Proponents say start-ups can develop a potentially world-changing technology faster than plodding university scientists; in recent years, academics studying geoengineering have tried to do basic outdoor equipment tests in Sweden and California only to face pushback and cancel their plans. “They stop. They give up,” said Maex Ament, a venture capitalist and Stardust investor. “If I’m an entrepreneur at heart, no, there is no ‘I’ll give up. Next topic.’ I’ll solve this problem, without compromising safety. There’s a different mindset.”

Opponents say profit-seeking companies have no business developing a technology designed to affect everyone on Earth, which may have unintended consequences for global weather patterns and could kill people by raising air pollution and cancer rates. “I do not trust the private sector to make good decisions for people,” said Shuchi Talati, founder of the nonprofit Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering. “The whole move-fast-and-break-things ethos — I’ve seen it, and it hasn’t gone particularly well for society.”

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2025/12/03/stardust-make-sunsets-geoengineering-startups/

https://wapo.st/3MeKCkf

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What Could Possibly Go Wrong? Private Companies Are Doing Small-Scale Solar Engineering w/o Regulation (Original Post) hatrack Dec 2025 OP
This is the worst idea ever jfz9580m Dec 2025 #1
This guy would help the climate more by not driving a Winnebago all over the place Blues Heron Dec 2025 #2
While the idea is incredibly stupid on inspection, it is very unlikely to have any profound environmental consequences. NNadir Dec 2025 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Dec 2025 #4
I could be wrong, but sue4e3 Dec 2025 #5

jfz9580m

(16,942 posts)
1. This is the worst idea ever
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:20 AM
Dec 2025

If anything, we need less of this deregulated and invasive crap with scant oversight and a prioritization of profit. I am okay with “plodding university scientists”.

NNadir

(37,872 posts)
3. While the idea is incredibly stupid on inspection, it is very unlikely to have any profound environmental consequences.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:57 AM
Dec 2025

It's a scam to fleece energy illiterates, rather like the claim that one is buying electricity only from so called "renewable energy" where the electrons on the grid to which the allegedly "renewable energy" is connected does not include an electron sorter to remove electrons powered by gas and coal plants.

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sue4e3

(762 posts)
5. I could be wrong, but
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 04:23 PM
Dec 2025

I believe that using a 3rd party power supply is not meant to be a scam. It's explained quite well . I use inspire which is wind energy as my 3rd party. It was explained to me that I literally get mixed energy including ( probably the majority) fossil fuel . However the amount of energy I pay for is put through a grid ( in some places it's only local in others the person's, in this case my company has to use that much energy supplied by renewable of the type I paid for; to their grid) In other words I am paying for wind energy to replace fossil fuel somewhere in my country and if more people do it than there is less fossil fuel overall. that is the premise as i understand it

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