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hatrack

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Wed Jul 2, 2025, 08:16 AM Jul 2

Four Months To Go Before Next UN Climate Confab With The Process Thoroughly Stuck In The Mud

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Since the Paris agreement was signed in 2015, global greenhouse gas emissions have continued to rise. Temperatures are affected by the cumulative quantity of carbon in the atmosphere, so every additional tonne counts: scientists have now calculated that we can only carry on producing current levels of carbon dioxide for two more years, ensuring the breach of the 1.5C limit becomes permanent. But while temperatures have soared, and weather records have tumbled, any sense of urgency inside the negotiating halls seems to have cooled. Two weeks of preliminary talks, intended to lay the groundwork for Cop30, have just finished in Bonn. They started two days late because countries could not agree an agenda, and ended without clear negotiating texts for the key points.

Some of the frustrating lack of progress is inevitable, as countries grapple with geopolitics and the complexity of getting nearly 200 governments in line. But several negotiators told the Guardian they saw more sinister motives in play – deliberate attempts by some recalcitrant countries or their allies, usually fossil fuel producers, to throw up roadblocks.

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A few countries have already presented their NDCs. The UK’s is judged to be fairly ambitious, with an 81% cut in emissions compared to 1990 levels by 2035. Canada’s effort and Japan’s have both been found “insufficient”, however, by the Climate Action Tracker, which monitors the levels of countries’ emissions reduction. A further problem is that none of the NDCs so far, which are pegged to 2035 or 2040, have contained revisions of countries’ existing near-term targets. Current NDCs, set at Cop26 in Glasgow in 2021, are inadequate to stay within 1.5C. At Glasgow, countries agreed that the “ratchet” – the system for updating NDCs – should allow for the upward revision of targets more frequently than the five-yearly system laid out in the Paris agreement.

Disappointingly, no countries have availed themselves of the opportunity, said Niklas Höhne, of the NewClimate Institute. “[To stay within the 1.5C limit] needs drastic reductions. None of the NDCs on the table have updated 2030 numbers. But if we do not do more by 2030, it will be very difficult to catch up later.” Last year’s conference of the parties (Cop) focused on finance, and that will also play a major role this year. Developing countries need assistance from the rich world, to help them cut emissions and cope with the impacts of extreme weather. At Cop29, they were assured of $1.3tn a year by 2035, with $300bn of this coming in the form of public finance from developed countries.

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jun/29/climate-is-our-biggest-war-warns-ceo-of-cop30-ahead-of-un-summit-in-brazil

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Four Months To Go Before Next UN Climate Confab With The Process Thoroughly Stuck In The Mud (Original Post) hatrack Jul 2 OP
Well I wouldn't say nothing is being done to address the collapse of the atmosphere. NNadir Jul 2 #1
But wait!! Did you hear about the hydrogen KitchenAid mixer? hatrack Jul 2 #2
Wow! No. We're saved. N/t NNadir Jul 2 #3
Of more importance is the use of "green hydrogen" in the production of fertilizer OKIsItJustMe Jul 2 #4

NNadir

(36,218 posts)
1. Well I wouldn't say nothing is being done to address the collapse of the atmosphere.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:24 AM
Jul 2

After all, we recently learned of a putatively hydrogen powered helicopter here.

Sigh...

OKIsItJustMe

(21,508 posts)
4. Of more importance is the use of "green hydrogen" in the production of fertilizer
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jul 2

Our modern agricultural system requires fertilizer, typically made using natural gas. “Green hydrogen” can be used to produce “green ammonia” for sustainable fertilizer production.

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