Breaking: Chancellor has quit

[Soph0571]

This is huge. Apparently he was told he could stay but he had to sack all his advisers. (that has to be cummings) Javid told Boris to sling his hook... bloody hell.

Control freaks being control freaks. Cummings is too big for his far right boots and I am for one delighted that Javid was not going to put up with that level of control from a non elected arsehole - putting his spies in number 11 - just guessing of course but it makes sense. Wonder how Boris is going to take this???? Hehe

Shit is getting real.

[nitpicker]

1. Link to The Guardian live thread

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/feb/13/politics-live-cabinet-reshuffle-set-to-get-underway-live-news

[Mike 03]

2. Thanks, this is amazing.

A couple of excerpts:

Sajid Javid, the chancellor, reportedly resigned because the PM insisted that he sack his advisers, and replace them with officials chosen by Number 10.

Such a move would amount to a repeat of what happened last year, when one of Javid’s advisers was sacked without his approval by Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson’s chief adviser.

Sajid Javid now joins the long list of people who have been let down by Boris Johnson. During the general election, in a Q&A after a speech to the CBI, Johnson committed to keeping Javid as his chancellor after the election. Javid was doing an excellent job, he said. No other cabinet minister received a job security guarantee of this kind during the campaign.

'No self-respecting chancellor would accept those terms', says source close to Javid
A source close to Sajid Javid has confirmed that he has resigned. The source told the Press Association.

[Javid] has turned down the job of chancellor of the exchequer.

The prime minister said he had to fire all his special advisers and replace them with Number 10 special advisers to make it one team.

The chancellor said no self-respecting minister would accept those terms.

[BlueMTexpat]

16. Thanks for posting those excerpts!

[Iliyah]

3. Still don't understand UK's politics . . .

But this is a bad thing, I assume . .

Also, how is the economy there? Also, BoJo, like shithole here is now deporting citizens who are from other cultures/races?

[Soph0571]

5. Tehre is a budget next month so it is not great

He was seen as a steady state chancellor ... it is very shocking. No one was expecting it.

[Mike 03]

4. So dishonest

When you tell a professional, "You can stay but all your attendants and assistants have to go" what can you in good conscience call it but being fired?

Imagine saying that to a Judge, or a chief surgeon.

[Soph0571]

6. I don't know

Seemingly they expected him to accept the changes and carry on. The PM did not expect the resignation, the expected him to be a yes man. They were wrong.

[Mike 03]

7. OMG I didn't understand that.

They expected him to accept those terms.

Thank you for clarifying.

I'm just so shocked.

[Soph0571]

9. Boris is Trump lite with a complete control freak running number 10

They just want yes men... and I mean men. Good on the Chancellor for walking. We know have a very junior minister taking the job. He will be the perfect yes man

[Mike 03]

14. Yep, you are 100% right:

Link to tweet

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. The difference is Cameron didn't have an equivalent of Dominic Cummings

who seems to be trying to control all the special advisers in the government, and a lot of the permanent civil service too. Cameron seemed to have a good personal relationship with Osborne, and gave him real control of the Treasury, which would have included appointing his own advisers.

[dawg day]

22. Trump's cabinet would all say sir yes sir.

Bootlickers everyone.

[Mike 03]

8. New: Rishi Sunak appointed chancellor

Rishi Sunak appointed chancellor

No 10 has confirmed Rishi Sunak’s appointment as chancellor.

Sunak’s rise up the ranks has been extraordinary. He has been chief secretary to the Treasury since last summer, but technically he was not even a member of the cabinet; he was just a minister with the right to attend. Being chancellor is his first full cabinet job.

[Soph0571]

10. As I said above - number 10 now has there yes man

He is far to inexperienced to stand up to the centralised power in Number 10.

[Mike 03]

11. Downing Street now Tweeting about the reshuffle (Guardian Live Updates)

Downing Street has now started tweeting about the reshuffle, starting with confirmation that Dominic Raab, Michael Gove and Priti Patel are all staying in post.

It is not clear yet whether Gove will get any additional responsibilities as part of Cabinet Office portfolio.

[Soph0571]

13. Gove is a snake oil sales man

Brexit negotiations would be my guess
Patel is so far right she is practically falling off the side of the planet. That suits them pandering to to the Brexit little englander.

[Mike 03]

12. "May not be the end of the power-grab"

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

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[Lonestarblue]

15. It's amazing that UK voters elected Johnson.

After seeing the utter chaos and dishonesty we have had from Trump, a man despised in the UK, their citizens voted for Boris, Trump’s political twin. Both are dishonest politicians who will always put their own power above the needs of their respective countries and will literally do anything, legal or not, to keep that power.

Putin must be thrilled. He has Trump in place to destabilize and destroy our democratic government and Johnson/Brexit wrecking the near future of the UK. I wonder which major country he will attack next.

[Mike 03]

17. "The door is still open..."

Link to tweet

Is this sincere? I guess they really were surprised.

[marble falls]

19. Other than maybe getting rid of Johnson down the road, what will it affect?

[Soph0571]

20. The upcoming budget and spending plans for the next year

But more than that it is the tightening of the power grip of the PMs office. Traditionally the Chancellor has been rather independent from policy makers - this is about to change. It is worrying.

[marble falls]

21. Take it from me: The British do not need a leader running away with more power.

[LeftishBrit]

23. One of the few with a brain, however much I might disagree with him

This is basically constructive dismissal. By the great Emperor Dominic 1. As many have been saying, it's ironic that so many people worry about being ruled by 'unelected bureaucrats' in Brussels, while accepting the rule of an unelected bureacrat at home.