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Related: About this forumSacramento police haven't used armored track vehicle nearly two years since it was purchased for $430,000
The Police Department purchased the vehicle, called the Rook, using $430,000 from a federal grant. The Sacramento City Council approved the purchase in late January 2023 after a lengthy and heated debate in which critics, including one council member, said this was further militarizing local law enforcement.
The Rooks armored-plating is designed to protect officers facing the threat of gunfire; the vehicle is not meant for any of the traditional senses of military use, Police Chief Kathy Lester said at that City Council meeting. The Rook, Lester said, allows officers the mobility to gain safe positions of advantage and provides opportunities for them to resolve dangerous situations using de-escalation techniques and potentially less force when dealing with really violent people.
In June 2019, Sacramento police Officer Tara OSullivan was killed in an ambush while trying to help a woman retrieve her belongings from a home where Adel Sambrano Ramos had been behaving erratically. OSullivan was mortally wounded by gunfire and lay on the ground nearly an hour before tactical officers were able to secure her rescue. After an hourslong standoff, the armed gunman, later identified as Ramos, surrendered.
In early December, police officials confirmed the armored vehicle purchased 23 months ago has not been used. They said the vehicle was at the city Fleet Services department being outfitted. Its unclear how the vehicle is being outfitted and whether the service its undergoing was the reason the Rook hasnt been used. Police officials said they would be able to answer these questions after the armored track vehicle is returned to them.
Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article297187329.html#storylink=cpy
displacedvermoter
(3,333 posts)I cannot believe the lack of a tank prevented the rescue of a fellow officer. The more we spend on equipping and training of these paramilitary, the less actual protection our citizens receive, and apparently their own colleagues are also more at risk.
bottomofthehill
(8,929 posts)This vehicle could have saved her life. It puts a barricade between the wounded and the shooter so medical assistance can get to the victim and begin. It could be helpful in any active shooter situation. School shooting, concert shooting, grocery store shooting , any domestic situation, church or synagogue shooting, college or university shooting, movie theater shooting, we have seen them all. Think of the lives that could have been saved in Uvalde if they had one of these. Expensive, hell yes, necessary, not until you need one.
DBoon
(23,207 posts)that create a hail of bullets so intense the police cannot manage it.
Too many people who want their "man card" validated
bottomofthehill
(8,929 posts)We have to figure out how to deal with the fallout.
Wonder Why
(4,788 posts)of waiting for one of these to show up.
"21 died but we saved one when this baby showed up 30 minutes later."
bottomofthehill
(8,929 posts)Anything armored. Its easy to think of what you would do until you are confronted with the situation in reality. You can drill, you can train, but until the actual gunfire starts, you dont know how you will react.
Wonder Why
(4,788 posts)are useless. Quick action to stop the perp is critical.
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Goonch
(3,837 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(10,589 posts)boonecreek
(310 posts)Maybe they think we're going to be invaded by Wisconsin?
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(10,589 posts)boonecreek
(310 posts)I believe that's actually an MRAP. Here's one that
was sent to the San Diego public school police!
What the hell are those kids bringing to school, bazookas?
crud
(854 posts)I suppose if you have to knock down somebody's patio cover, or break up a concrete driveway.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(10,589 posts)usonian
(14,923 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(10,589 posts)usonian
(14,923 posts)Don't want to risk lives for merchandise.
I think that the SF Westlake Mall closed shop. Haven't been there in ages. Looked real familiar.
multigraincracker
(34,466 posts)MichMan
(13,664 posts)If they had to spend their own local tax money on something like this, they likely would have passed.
ZonkerHarris
(25,492 posts)Old Crank
(5,046 posts)You need to have special training for all these fancy macho tanks. Training hours and materials aren't free. Probably need 3 fully trained crews. Then special badges to wear.
Put the money into proper community policing, and de-escalation training.