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My elder stepfather had a fall in the garage on Friday. Fractured his hip. The Dr.s said it was probably better that it was artificial. Thanks to the VA he has lots of artificial joints 4 I think.
So there was some blood to clean up on the concrete floor. He said peroxide which the internets agreed with. I decided to use my complete lack of scientific knowledge in this situation. I added vinegar, dish soap, and some Ajax my mom had under the kitchen sink. Added water in an empty plastic Folgers container. Carried it out to the garage and stepped just outside in the rain and shook it up. The top started to bubble up. I quickly set it on the muni trashcan just outside, closed my eyes, turned my head, and cracked open the other side of the container - a frothy mix shot across the driveway 5-7 feet.
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(9,781 posts)underpants
(196,614 posts)Good thing I didnt add baking soda or Clorox.
Oh it worked great. Completely clean.
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(28,450 posts)the paperclip , Mac
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(196,614 posts)dweller
(28,450 posts)on your wrist , and during moments like this you snap yourself
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Lochloosa
(16,742 posts)bad-chemical-combos.pdf https://share.google/Pfyh6jTH9ns6fni1q
underpants
(196,614 posts)Lochloosa
(16,742 posts)underpants
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Wicked Blue
(8,908 posts)underpants
(196,614 posts)Faux pas
(16,386 posts)Did it clean up the blood?
underpants
(196,614 posts)Id already scraped up much of it with a putty knife.
I thought Id have to scrub it was a wire brush but it came right up.
Faux pas
(16,386 posts)favorite cleaning product, sanitizes without screwing the environment!
RockRaven
(19,440 posts)Of the six possible pairs which can be made from a) hydrogen peroxide, b)bleach, c) ammonia, and d) vinegar, five are dangerous or theoretically so.
Vinegar and hydrogen peroxide can make paracetic acid.
Vinegar and bleach make chlorine gas.
Bleach and ammonia make chloramine gas.
Bleach and hydrogen peroxide make oxygen gas, which sounds fine -- but it does it so fast that it can cause an explosion.
Hydrogen peroxide and ammonia -- can be bad depending on concentrations, possibly fine at household level but don't chance it.
Only vinegar and ammonia is "meh" when combined. But even then, the combo isn't a good cleaning agent.
ProfessorGAC
(76,798 posts)The concentration of peroxide that causes the rapid O2 release you describe is at industrial strength like 35, 50, or 70.
There's too much dilution with drug store peroxide. Too much water means far inferior mass transfer rate, making the reaction too slow to explode.
The rest of your cautionary statements are well-placed.
RockRaven
(19,440 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,798 posts)39 of those were after my PhD. So, when I see a chemistry error, I'm incapable of letting it pass.
ProfessorGAC
(76,798 posts)From my chemist's point of view, I'd suggest the vinegar did nothing. There is calcium & sodium carbonate in Ajax. The vinegar reacts with that to for calcium or sodium acetate. So, there wouldn't be any vinegar by the time you used it.
That's what caused the frothing. The carbonate is the other product of the reaction with the acetic acid in the vinegar.
So, you released a bunch of gas and the heat of reaction helped push that CO2 out of the liquid.
Peroxide would normally be a good choice. It sterilizes (bacteria & viruses don't play well with peroxide), and doesn't negatively affect the surfactants in your cleaning agents. Except, peroxide breaks down to water & oxygen as pH rises and sodium carbonate has a pH of 9. Peroxide is more suitable at pH 6 & lower.
I would have used a heavier duty cleaning agent lije laundry soap. Dish soap uses less aggressive active ingredients to reduce drying of oils in the skin of our hands. The formulations don't worry about that with laundry liquids since one has very infrequent skin contact with laundry detergents.
You could make it again, leaving out the vinegar. It's useless anyway.
And, you might consider a splash of laundry bleach instead of peroxide. It is stable at higher pH and even more effective on pathogens.
underpants
(196,614 posts)Bio 101. I really balked on a question about WHERE photosynthesis takes place in a plant. Root flower stem leaf. Thats the whole damn class. I still laugh about that. I got it right. Rote memorization, no understanding. I got a B.
My wife is a believer in vinegar for just about everything. Non-gun Prepper stuff. We have gallons of vinegar in the garage.
Thanks.
Vinegar has slight grease cutting ability as would most organic solvents
The problem us it's 95% water, so smearing is a distinct possibility.
That's why cleaning products, professionally formulated, don't use vinegar; except for a few niche products likely targeting consumers like your wife.
The tough truth however, is vinegar provides close to nothing in the way of cleaning.
Kali
(56,844 posts)vinegaroons (yes I know what they really are) drive me crazy! I am at least a third generation clorox/bleach disinfector.
also for blood, start with cold water!
Shellback Squid
(10,093 posts)eppur_se_muova
(41,981 posts)Google "does borax remove blood stains" and you'll get a whole bunch of info similar to this:
The Borax and washing soda are detergent boosters: they make hard water soft and increase the effectiveness of detergent. It's very, very strong. If you watch videos on Youtube or TikTok of laundry stripping until the water is black, that's dye leaching out of the fabric. It is not for every day use; it's the nuclear option. I've only done it once per set of sheets I own, and I'm not going to do it again for at least another several months. I'm definitely not going to do it on my regular clothes.
But if you have extremely set-in stains that absolutely will not come out, and the fabric can take it, it makes it like new. I had a set of sheets that had yellow blobs in the shape of my fiancé and I where we sleep the most often, because our sweat and body oils and nighttime drool were seeping into the fabric, and OxyClean and repeated laundering did nothing. Stripping did.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CleaningTips/comments/nz66dt/laundry_stripping_removes_bloodstains_like_a_beast/
Unlike other cleaners, borax has few "bad" reactions, but some metal salts will form insoluble borates.
underpants
(196,614 posts)Sounds like serial killer stuff.
thanks
2naSalit
(102,937 posts)Glad to know your dad's okay.
Kali
(56,844 posts)it will almost work. if the blood stain is old then try peroxide or regular bleach, maybe a little powdered laundry detergent or ajax/comet. maybe even bartender's friend. don't mix cleaning products except detergent and detergent enhancers. don't mix the enhancers unless you know what you are doing.