TCM 1776 @ 10:35!!!!

[elleng]

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The founding fathers struggle to draft the Declaration of Independence.
Dir: Peter H. Hunt | Cast: William Daniels, Howard Da Silva, Ken Howard

'And that 3 or more (useless men) shall be called a CONGRESS!!!'

'Pins' 'SaltPeter' DONE MADAM!


Slaves. South Carolina. Molasses to Rum to Slaves

[Ilsa]

1. I remember this one. Thanks, I'll check it out. nt

[elleng]

2. Hope you enjoy it. It's a favorite of mine.

[Wiz Imp]

3. Watching it now. One of my all time favorite movies.

Fantastic acting and music. Howard Da Silva as Ben Franklin, William Daniels as John Adams & Ken Howard as Thomas Jefferson are all perfect for their roles.

[elleng]

4. YES, indeed, PERFECT!!!

[TommyT139]

5. Thanks for the tip!

I finally hit play on this one. It's quite a production!

[elleng]

6. QUITE!!!

[elleng]

7. The End!

[yorkster]

8. So glad I caught your post. Thanks, elleng.

What a powerful production. Quite moving - unexpectedly so at times. I think the current regime and yesterday's vote also added to the timeliness of the film and my response to it.

[Wiz Imp]

9. One of the most powerful passages of dialogue - who could have imagined this would be so relevant in 2025

John Dickinson: Mr. Jefferson, I have very little interest in your paper, as there's no doubt in my mind that we've all but heard the last of it, but I am curious about one thing. Why do you refer to King George as a... tyrant?

Thomas Jefferson: Because he *is* a tyrant.

John Dickinson: I remind you, Mr. Jefferson, that this "tyrant" is still your king.

Thomas Jefferson: When a king becomes a tyrant, he thereby breaks the contract binding his subjects to him.

John Dickinson: How so?

Thomas Jefferson: By taking away their rights.

John Dickinson: Rights that came from him in the first place.

Thomas Jefferson: All except one. The right to be free comes from nature.

John Dickinson: And are we not free, Mr. Jefferson?

Thomas Jefferson: Homes entered without warrant, citizens arrested without charge, and in many places, free assembly itself denied.

John Dickinson: No one approves of such things, but these are dangerous times.

Benjamin Franklin: Be careful Mr. Dickinson, those who give up some of their liberty in order to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

John Dickinson: Mr. Wilson, Do we in Pennsylvania consider King George a tyrant?

James Wilson: Well ... I don't know, He... Oh, um... no, no, we don't, he's not a tyrant ... in Pennsylvania.

John Dickinson: There you are Mr. Jefferson, your declaration does not speak for us all. I demand the word tyrant be removed.

Charles Thomson: Very well

Thomas Jefferson: Just a moment, Mr. Thomson. I do not consent. The king is a tyrant whether we say so or not. We might as well say so.

Charles Thomson: But I already scratched it out.

Thomas Jefferson: Then scratch it back in!

John Hancock: Put it back, Mr. Thomson. The King will remain a tyrant.

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[yorkster]

10. Great selection. Lots of the dialogue really

in the film really leapt off the screen, so to speak.

Also really loved seeing/hearing "Cool, Cool Considerate Men".

[Wiz Imp]

11. Yep. Nixon wanted that song removed because it portrayed/described the conservatives accurately.

[yorkster]

12. Thank you. I missed part of Ben Mankiewicz'

intro on TCM and he talked about this.

[Mad_Dem_X]

13. I saw a stage production of this several years ago

It was brilliant. The ending scene gave me chills.