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Zorro

(17,228 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:01 AM Feb 12

The couple who want to make America procreate again

Simone and Malcolm Collins are enthusiastic avatars for a new pronatalist movement. With Trump 2.0, they’re more optimistic than ever.

It’s a new year, which, for Simone Collins, means a new pregnancy.

This will be her sixth pregnancy since 2019, and, if all goes well, Collins will bear her fifth child by December. She approaches each the way an endurance athlete does a marathon. She and her husband, Malcolm, have waited exactly nine months since the birth of their last child, Industry Americus (“Indy” for short), to give Simone’s body adequate time to recover.

She goes through a barrage of exams, starting with a hysteroscopy and a uterine biopsy to “get the lay of the land,” and “very detailed” bloodwork. She will take the hormone medication necessary for transferring a frozen embryo into her uterus. At home, she exercises, walking for hours on a compact treadmill she keeps at her desk, and “eats really well”: plain yogurt, no added sugar; hard-boiled eggs; a “slurry” of blended vegetables.

When it’s time to give birth, Simone will have a Caesarean section — because of complications that arose when she delivered her first child, Octavian George, all of the births have been C-sections. With each surgery, the risk of future complications — including death — increases. But Simone, 37, wants to do this at least three more times — ideally as many as 10. They have 32 embryos left.

“I’m happy to die in labor,” Simone said in early January, fresh out of the fertility clinic. That’s because, for Malcolm and Simone Collins, a large family isn’t just a personal preference; as pronatalists, they believe that bearing as many children as possible is what’s necessary to avoid an apocalyptic future.

https://wapo.st/4bc92mZ

Seems to me that wanting to create an enormous family just increases the odds of an apocalyptic future. But that's just me.

And of course they're both RWNJs.
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bronxiteforever

(10,348 posts)
2. Imagine all of women from the past
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:12 AM
Feb 12

who died during childbirth having the wonderful choice, through science, to not die during childbirth.

Some people don’t know how to be grateful.

tanyev

(46,134 posts)
3. Well, good luck continuing to find the medical care you need to safely accomplish that goal, Simone.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:16 AM
Feb 12

Exercising and eating well only gets you so far.

Paladin

(30,199 posts)
5. Suits me, if they want to keep fucking themselves.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:49 AM
Feb 12

They need to leave the rest of us alone, though.

eppur_se_muova

(38,914 posts)
6. This was the premise behind "Idiocracy" ... slowly evolving into a documentary.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:54 AM
Feb 12

Mush (N-ZA) is of course, one of these "pronatalists", because there's apparently no fringe idea too nutty for him to pass up. And, it's ultimately destructive, which counts as a bonus with him.

SteveMarrs

(22 posts)
7. Growing up in 60's in grade school and 70's
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:57 AM
Feb 12

in high school, I was taught to be less destructive to the environment. SMALLER FAMILIES, produce less waste, and recycling are part of my education thus are in my daily life. I mean what part of finite resources do people not understand. Growing up in the national parks also left a great impact on me. Smokies, Everglades, and Yellowstone to name a few. I had a great childhood!

eppur_se_muova

(38,914 posts)
8. WTF ?? "Necessary to avoid an apocalyptic future" ?? How can anyone be THIS STUPID ??
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:07 AM
Feb 12

Zorro said it just right. Their actions are INCREASING the possibility of an apocalyptic future. We've known for decades that we're increasingly overstressing the one and only planet on which we know we can survive. Population control -- or better yet, decline -- is an absolute necessity for survival.

Timeflyer

(3,104 posts)
9. Wish we could travel 20 years in the future and talk to their kids about how awful family life was
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:25 AM
Feb 12

with these "quantity before quality" parents. Children reduced to numbers, before birth, for parent's ego pleasure and cult beliefs. Gross.

Dulcinea

(8,248 posts)
11. Each repeat C-section is generally more complicated than the last.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 08:19 AM
Feb 13

There's no consensus on how many C-sections a woman can have safely, but the risk goes up with each one.

Source: Mayo Clinic

travelingthrulife

(2,094 posts)
12. Stupid people.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 12:37 PM
Feb 13

I grew up in a family of 10 kids. There is no way those kids get what they need.

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