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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,819 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2025, 01:39 PM Wednesday

The Dworkin Report - We Must Never Forget How Horrible the Press Coverage Was in 2024

In 2024, corporate media failed all of us at a level that should be considered malpractice.

-snip-

1st Edition: 8/11/24

The first week of selecting only 5 fails proved to be difficult. There were so many errors and false stories flying around. But the 5 we picked, turned out to be doozies.

Walz’s Military Service

The coverage of Tim Walz’s military record has been atrocious. He proudly served our military for 24 years and his record was impeccable. Walz is a true patriot. But that’s not what they cover. Instead, they’ve taken JD Vance’s lying spin and turned them into headlines. The Trump campaign’s lies and innuendos are disgusting and un-American, and it’s a disgrace that so many news outlets choose to parrot them.

Trump’s $10 Million Egyptian Scandal

A report reveals the FBI was investigating if Egypt gave Trump a $10 million cash bribe, before fmr. AG Barr abruptly closed the case. It is described by Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig as the “most serious allegation of a bribe in White House history.” I’ve been investigating Trump’s ties to Egypt since 2016, and I can tell you there’s so much more to the story. But you’re not hearing about it, because it goes against the mainstream media’s pro-Trump narrative.

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The Dworkin Report - We Must Never Forget How Horrible the Press Coverage Was in 2024 (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday OP
This kind of clickbait criticism of the press reflects the fact the writer doesn't know what the press does. ificandream Wednesday #1
Simpleton accusations? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #2
The "examples" are simple accusations with no details. ificandream Wednesday #3
Sorry but are you saying the press did a GOOD JOB covering Trump and Vance? LymphocyteLover Wednesday #5
No they weren't "too easy on him" ... ificandream Wednesday #6
I'm a former newspaper reporter Blue_Tires Thursday #11
I'll agree with the first part about the horse race, but not the second. ificandream Thursday #14
Biden gave a speech on the economy a week or so ago, but the media covered Trump's press conference instead.. lees1975 Wednesday #4
How about some links? ificandream Wednesday #7
How about you find it yourself? Blue_Tires Thursday #8
How about proof of the accusations that were made? ificandream Thursday #9
It literally took you longer to type that Blue_Tires Thursday #12
And don't forget the three weeks of endless coverage Blue_Tires Thursday #10
More empty accusations ... ificandream Thursday #13
Says the dude who can't even Google Biden's speech... Blue_Tires Thursday #16
I had to do a number of things to stay sane. BigDemVoter Thursday #15

ificandream

(10,837 posts)
1. This kind of clickbait criticism of the press reflects the fact the writer doesn't know what the press does.
Wed Jan 1, 2025, 02:08 PM
Wednesday

It's not intelligent that he and others make simpleton accusations. They mean nothing.

ificandream

(10,837 posts)
3. The "examples" are simple accusations with no details.
Wed Jan 1, 2025, 02:22 PM
Wednesday

That's not reporting.

Example, in talking about coverage of Tim Walz:

"Instead, they’ve taken JD Vance’s lying spin and turned them into headlines. The Trump campaign’s lies and innuendos are disgusting and un-American, and it’s a disgrace that so many news outlets choose to parrot them."

Whether we like it or not, the press is obliged to cover these accusations by Vance. That's the job of the real press -- to cover all sides -- and it's one that the right-wing exploits because they only spin propaganda. The degree the legitimate press covers can be measured, but it needs to be covered. Did the press (which Dworkin doesn't specifically identify .. he just lashes out at the press in general) give it more than it deserved? Without more detail, it's not a question to answer, though I wouldn't rule that out. But Dworkin is doing no one a service by rambling, which is what he did.

Then there's this in the excerpt cited:

"Trump’s $10 Million Egyptian Scandal: A report reveals the FBI was investigating if Egypt gave Trump a $10 million cash bribe, before fmr. AG Barr abruptly closed the case. It is described by Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig as the “most serious allegation of a bribe in White House history.” I’ve been investigating Trump’s ties to Egypt since 2016, and I can tell you there’s so much more to the story. But you’re not hearing about it, because it goes against the mainstream media’s pro-Trump narrative."


Again, no specifics in his "this is what I know" rant.

Sorry, this is not journalism. And Dworkin is no journalist. He's nothing more than a loudmouth.

LymphocyteLover

(7,016 posts)
5. Sorry but are you saying the press did a GOOD JOB covering Trump and Vance?
Wed Jan 1, 2025, 04:41 PM
Wednesday

I totally agree with Dworkin that they went way too easy on them used an egregiously horrible double standard for them vs Harris-Walz

ificandream

(10,837 posts)
6. No they weren't "too easy on him" ...
Wed Jan 1, 2025, 05:33 PM
Wednesday

Trump's lies and scandals were not glossed over. The problem with the press today, if you want to call it that, is their use of news judgment. It differs greatly from when I was in newspapers (late '60s through early 2000s). Not everything needs to be covered at face value. The hunger for news leads to "news" that really isn't. A very good example: The Hillary Clinton/DNC email hacks in 2016. Those emails were stolen. The fact the source for the emails was Wikileaks should have disqualified any stories quoting those emails because the source couldn't be trusted for accuracy. Few news outlets if any did.

A more recent example -- some of the stories about Tim Walz that came out in the campaign fit that binder. But those disappeared pretty quickly, thankfully, though I will agree they got more life than they should have. But Trump's scandals were in the news continuously. Part of the problem, IMO, is the volume of the RW media is much louder than the legitimate media because Fox and their ilk have no standards. The RW also has a knack for pulling things out of nowhere that get a longer life than they deserve because of the curiosity of the public.

Bottom line: The legitimate media has standards. The propagandists like Fox don't. They turned the coverage to make the legit media look bad.

Real journalists are saving our asses every day of the week. That includes the NY Times and Washington Post. That's not to say they don't blow things once in a while. Despite what Bezos said, I think the timing of the Post (and L.A. Times) on those Kamala endorsements was dreadful. Had those happened six months or a year earlier, they would have meant nothing. But coming as they did, they were pointing an arrow at their intentions.

I'll say it again: Real journalists are saving our asses every day of the week. If we want our freedom, we need to root for them, not against them. You've got Trump and God knows what happening starting January 20. I don't even want to think what would happen without the legitimate press. Let's hope that besides the couple of examples of cowering to Trump we've seen so far the rest of the press stays strong. (One thing, though: Talking to Trump doesn't mean cowering. They will have to because of his office. But that doesn't mean they kiss his ring.)

Blue_Tires

(57,066 posts)
11. I'm a former newspaper reporter
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 11:16 AM
Thursday

And I'll say in my professional opinion that the media was completely negligent...

Part of it is their need to ALWAYS create a "horse race" down to the wire, and the other part is they've always given Donnie the absolute lowest bar for scrutiny and success that any mediocre white man has ever had...

ificandream

(10,837 posts)
14. I'll agree with the first part about the horse race, but not the second.
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 11:23 AM
Thursday

Trump's scandals were covered extensively. If anyone's to blame, blame the RW media for helping temper the coverage. The RW media has a very loud response to everything. That does have an effect.

lees1975

(6,137 posts)
4. Biden gave a speech on the economy a week or so ago, but the media covered Trump's press conference instead..
Wed Jan 1, 2025, 03:10 PM
Wednesday

So, I get it.

ificandream

(10,837 posts)
9. How about proof of the accusations that were made?
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 11:11 AM
Thursday

Anyone can say anything. Without proof, the assertions means absolutely nothing. And then shoving it on to me? Well, that's even funnier. It's not my job to back up these lies.

Blue_Tires

(57,066 posts)
12. It literally took you longer to type that
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 11:18 AM
Thursday

Than to just do a search for "Biden speech economy"

But you do you, kid 😅

Blue_Tires

(57,066 posts)
10. And don't forget the three weeks of endless coverage
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 11:12 AM
Thursday

About Biden's age and alleged mental decline only for them to completely drop the issue once he stepped down from the race despite Donnie not being able to say a coherent sentence or stay on topic for more than 30 seconds

BigDemVoter

(4,556 posts)
15. I had to do a number of things to stay sane.
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 11:27 AM
Thursday

I was on vacation out of the country for the election and couldn't watch it on television. I watched on my phone and then just cut it off. Upon my return, a couple of weeks after election day, I canceled my cable, as even MSNBC was too much. I cannot watch P*$$Y-Grabber or hear his voice. I almost lost it during his last administration. Likewise, I canceled the NYT & WaPo. My brothers tell me I'm cutting off my nose to spite my face, but I'm done with both.

I am loving the fact that I'm saving so much money after canceling cable. I now read The Atlantic and come to DemocraticUnderground pretty regularly, although I very seldom post anything. It's going to ber a REAL shit show, and READING about it doesn't trigger me as much as it does watching & listening to it.

And yes, our "mainstream media" did one of the most horrendous jobs in 2024 that I've ever seen. I just cannot dwell on it, as it will make me too angry all over again, and I just cannot bear it. . . .

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