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highplainsdem

(61,377 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:32 PM 10 hrs ago

Trump hits out at Starmer over Iran: 'This is not Winston Churchill we're dealing with'

Last edited Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:23 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Independent

Speaking at the White House, the US president unleashed another rant about the UK, claiming Sir Keir had been "very uncooperative" and had "ruined relationships" over Iran and the Chagos Islands.

-snip-

Appearing to refer to the Diego Garcia base in the Chagos Islands, Mr Trump added: "That island... It's taken three, four days, for us to work out where we can land there; it would have been much more convenient landing there as opposed to flying many extra hours, so we are very surprised."

"This is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with," he added.

Mr Trump went on to express his disapproval at Britain's deal to hand the Chagos Islands to Mauritius, saying the UK has "ruined relationships" over the "stupid island".

-snip-

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-keir-starmer-iran-winston-churchill-b2931235.html



Trump also called London mayor Sadiq Khan incompetent and claimed incorrectly that the UK has Sharia courts adjudicating law.
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Trump hits out at Starmer over Iran: 'This is not Winston Churchill we're dealing with' (Original Post) highplainsdem 10 hrs ago OP
Well Trump is no FDR. What's the point? Raven123 10 hrs ago #1
I guess Trump thinks he's FDR today. hadEnuf 8 hrs ago #10
Probably Stalin dflprincess 3 hrs ago #31
I'm amazed he knows he's not dealing with Churchill. ananda 5 hrs ago #20
Beat me to it. wnylib 4 hrs ago #22
He is Howdy Doodey, Putin's puppet! MacKasey 3 hrs ago #33
You beat me to it. SheltieLover 3 hrs ago #35
I'm shocked SallyHemmings 10 hrs ago #2
My god! PatSeg 9 hrs ago #3
Not to mention British people don't hold Churchill in high regard. nt Nashchica 8 hrs ago #11
Good point PatSeg 7 hrs ago #15
Is that true? iemanja 6 hrs ago #19
It's true. Brits liked Churchill's inspiring rhetoric wnylib 3 hrs ago #25
Thanks... wonder who supplied PEDO Cha 3 hrs ago #30
But they put the Conservatives back in power in 1951 dflprincess 3 hrs ago #32
The 1950s were a swing to the right in the US, too. wnylib 3 hrs ago #34
I was referring to how he is iemanja 3 hrs ago #36
info on sharia courts in britain.... msongs 9 hrs ago #4
Well Felon, you are no Barack Obama, Joe Biden livetohike 9 hrs ago #5
Yes! That's mostly what I said Cha 3 hrs ago #26
He's no Winston Churchill. That's pretty self evident. patphil 9 hrs ago #6
Sounds like... 2naSalit 9 hrs ago #7
Whcih is ... Cha 3 hrs ago #24
All these plans should have been arranged before the attack. No plans and no one knows what they're doing except Deuxcents 3 hrs ago #28
If he was Winston Churchill, he would say the following about Krasnov Wonder Why 8 hrs ago #8
And what would Churchill think..... Smilo 8 hrs ago #9
It's clear that Trump is now several cans short of a 12 pack. hadEnuf 8 hrs ago #12
You've used the live news link, and the "no Churchill" story is about 4 pages down it now muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #13
Drat, they completely rewrote the story, too. What a mess. And no way to get everything I had before highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #17
Still winning friends, and influencing enemies Bayard 8 hrs ago #14
He's bound and determined to make the entire world hate us mdbl 6 hrs ago #16
And the child rapist is no FDR. iemanja 6 hrs ago #18
Chuchill wouldn't kiss your ass like Starmer. Intractable 5 hrs ago #21
PEDO Fuck head is NO Joe Biden Or Barack Cha 4 hrs ago #23
Gallipoli anyone? Johonny 3 hrs ago #27
And drumpf is no FDR. greatauntoftriplets 3 hrs ago #29
Not even in the same universe with FDR! SheltieLover 3 hrs ago #37
There is one thing I wish he had in common with FDR. niyad 2 hrs ago #38
Decency SheltieLover 2 hrs ago #39
Not possible. I wish they were both "the late" niyad 1 hr ago #40
Slob doesn't have a shred of decency. SheltieLover 1 hr ago #41
Oh. Lol SheltieLover 1 hr ago #42
Well, Trump, you shouldn't have started a war that resulted in our Naval base in Bahrain being taken out, thus artemisia1 1 hr ago #43
and trump is no Eisenhower, by a long shot. Captain Zero 53 min ago #44

ananda

(34,784 posts)
20. I'm amazed he knows he's not dealing with Churchill.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:37 PM
5 hrs ago

Starmer and his cohorts are doing just fine
by standing strong against Trump.

SallyHemmings

(1,959 posts)
2. I'm shocked
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:37 PM
10 hrs ago

He treats our Allies like crap, and they are supposed to just give him what he wants.





PatSeg

(52,988 posts)
3. My god!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:39 PM
9 hrs ago

At this rate, he's going to run out of people to insult and offend. After all there are only 8 billion people on the planet.

“This is not Winston Churchill that we’re talking about”. Like he even knows anything about Winston Churchill.


wnylib

(25,621 posts)
25. It's true. Brits liked Churchill's inspiring rhetoric
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:39 PM
3 hrs ago

during the war, but got rid of him as soon as the war was over. He was too conservative for them. He had also flubbed up several times in military positions that he held before the war. His main interest in WWII was preserving the empire. His domestic policies did not appeal to Brits.

Cha

(318,299 posts)
30. Thanks... wonder who supplied PEDO
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:47 PM
3 hrs ago

with that line? He doesn't know shit about history?

Too busy with Epstein business.

dflprincess

(29,301 posts)
32. But they put the Conservatives back in power in 1951
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:57 PM
3 hrs ago

and Churchill was prime minister again from1951-55.

wnylib

(25,621 posts)
34. The 1950s were a swing to the right in the US, too.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:05 PM
3 hrs ago

Fascism had bern defeated and we focused on Communism as the Soviet Bloc became entrenched.

Today's Brits do not like Churchill.

iemanja

(57,717 posts)
36. I was referring to how he is
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:18 PM
3 hrs ago

Remembered historically, not when he was voted out of office.

patphil

(8,940 posts)
6. He's no Winston Churchill. That's pretty self evident.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:50 PM
9 hrs ago

Starmer doesn't smoke cigars, or at all for that matter, while Churchill seemed to always have one in his hand.
That makes telling them apart really easy. I wonder how long it took Trump to figure that out.

This may be the first thing Trump said in the past few months that's actually true.

Deuxcents

(26,433 posts)
28. All these plans should have been arranged before the attack. No plans and no one knows what they're doing except
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:45 PM
3 hrs ago

Screwing up royally. They’re shooting from the hip and have started a serious war and alienating our allies is idiotic. Spain says no and are not wanting retaliation from Iran nor does the UK. We’re in trouble deep

Wonder Why

(6,786 posts)
8. If he was Winston Churchill, he would say the following about Krasnov
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:49 PM
8 hrs ago
We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our policy? I will say: It is to wage war, by sea, land, and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be.


So, unless you want another war, Krazy Krasnov, button your lip ad put your cellphone where the sun doesn't shine!

Smilo

(2,024 posts)
9. And what would Churchill think.....
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:55 PM
8 hrs ago

Hitler trump is a monster of wickedness, insatiable in his lust for blood and plunder.”.
June 22, 1941, Churchill on Hitler’s attack invasion of Russia.

hadEnuf

(3,584 posts)
12. It's clear that Trump is now several cans short of a 12 pack.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:01 PM
8 hrs ago

25th A time. Not that his asslickers in congress care.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,005 posts)
13. You've used the live news link, and the "no Churchill" story is about 4 pages down it now
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:03 PM
8 hrs ago

Here's the link to what you've quoted:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-keir-starmer-iran-winston-churchill-b2931235.html

Title "Trump hits out at Starmer over Iran: ‘This is not Winston Churchill we’re dealing with’"

It would be better to correct this in the OP, since this is LBN.

highplainsdem

(61,377 posts)
17. Drat, they completely rewrote the story, too. What a mess. And no way to get everything I had before
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:09 PM
6 hrs ago

in just 4 paragraphs of the new version. Sigh. Thanks for the heads-up, though. I'll try to patch a new excerpt plus comments together so the earlier replies here won't lose context.

Bayard

(29,292 posts)
14. Still winning friends, and influencing enemies
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:20 PM
8 hrs ago

No other country wants a part in enabling him in an illegal war, resulting in a quagmire. They don't need to lose their soldiers to trump and Bibi's egos.

artemisia1

(1,707 posts)
43. Well, Trump, you shouldn't have started a war that resulted in our Naval base in Bahrain being taken out, thus
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 12:53 AM
1 hr ago

requiring our ships to make an extra 3-4 day trip to Diego Garcia to restock.

Captain Zero

(8,851 posts)
44. and trump is no Eisenhower, by a long shot.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 01:43 AM
53 min ago

or, Maybe Trump should wade ashore from a destroyer in Iran, like McArthur did in the Philippines.

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