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Omaha Steve

(108,994 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:30 PM Mar 2

Democratic moderates warn that leaning too far left in midterms sets up presidential loss in 2028

Source: AP

By MEG KINNARD
Updated 4:27 PM CST, March 2, 2026

CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Across the country, progressives are lighting a fire that they hope will catapult Democrats back to power in Congress this year. But here in a hotel ballroom, the party’s beleaguered moderates have another message — not so fast.

Leaders at Third Way’s conference talked over and over about how Democrats can’t swing too far left in the midterms, or when picking their next presidential nominee, if they have any hope of winning back the White House.

The title of the two-day, invite-only conference: “Winning the Middle.” And there was plenty of advice on how to do that.

Be plainspoken, not lofty or academic. Don’t live online, but be authentic on social media. Loosen up, and be patriotic without fear that something like the American flag or Pledge of Allegiance has been co-opted by conservatives.



Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2026-2028-election-progressive-moderate-0a8db97aff5e49c22625c2f0d7036fcf

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Democratic moderates warn that leaning too far left in midterms sets up presidential loss in 2028 (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2 OP
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Way Too Late. We're cleaning house with great democrats ! Bread and Circuses Mar 2 #1
$15 an hr min wage and affordable health care for all...oh no nt msongs Mar 2 #2
Exactly - when the "right" is controlled by batshit crazy TexasBushwhacker Mar 3 #65
Billionaires won't pay Bettie Mar 3 #74
Pitting Moderates v Progressives is what brings us down gab13by13 Mar 2 #3
I agree creon Mar 3 #14
Don't be fooled by their self-description. These are not moderates JHB 17 hrs ago #111
We've been here before. Safe as Milk Mar 2 #4
We've lost before because progressives wouldn't help creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #22
We lose because the party fails to maintain and update LuvLoogie Mar 3 #56
Well said....especially this bit: Bettie Mar 3 #61
Not correct at all creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #77
Nope creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #76
12 Senators and 34 House members is not a small number. What we have now is what YOU wanted LuvLoogie Mar 3 #86
I don't see the evidence of financial conflicts of interest creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #89
we lose when moderate democratic leadership tells us to vote for them... mike_c Mar 3 #69
By working to earn your support creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #84
There is no middle between Democracy and Fascism Fiendish Thingy Mar 2 #5
First things first creon Mar 3 #17
Third Way??are you serious? choie Mar 2 #6
Fuck the Third Way johnnyplankton Mar 2 #7
Nope creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #23
this illustrates the worst instincts of political moderates mike_c Mar 3 #70
Its not an instinct creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #75
THANK YOU Skittles 13 hrs ago #116
Lets try to do that first. creeksneakers2 11 hrs ago #118
WE DO THAT CONSTANTLY Skittles 10 hrs ago #120
I think the seats we lost after Obama care were lost because we didn't provide the promised public option questionseverything 17 hrs ago #112
Don't know what makes you think that. creeksneakers2 11 hrs ago #119
Better to seek to restore funding for Obamacare. NH Ethylene Mar 3 #30
I think when we get back in power intheflow Mar 3 #59
We've been muzzled too long. The sure way to a loss is not taking a stand against these middle of the road ideas Deuxcents Mar 2 #8
That idea will get us beat again. creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #25
Our forefathers were radical. Is wanting our kids healthy Deuxcents Mar 3 #31
Those things are fine creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #33
We lose because of the corrupted media. That phrase, 'defund the police' was travelingthrulife Mar 3 #64
It started on our side. creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #78
No, activists used the slogan during George Floyd protests. This is easy to look up. betsuni Mar 3 #87
Third Way? LovelyStuff Mar 2 #9
I fucking hate this moderate bullshit. Cowards, one and all. NewHendoLib Mar 2 #10
This is an opinion piece masquerading as a news article Prairie Gates Mar 3 #11
They had a meeting.... Bettie Mar 3 #63
Oh here we go again... Marie Marie Mar 3 #12
WHY is it only Dems who have to "mitigate" Skittles Mar 3 #13
They'll lose because they are extreme. creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #26
But they didn't lose last time. NH Ethylene Mar 3 #32
They hid who they were last time. creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #35
MAGAts have NEVER hidden who they are Skittles Mar 3 #43
People on our side refuse to help too creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #81
and THAT is in part because of the MEDIA Skittles Mar 3 #91
We would get more votes if progressives would work with us instead of against us. creeksneakers2 20 hrs ago #100
Correct....we're supposed to always "move toward the center" , but Bettie Mar 3 #73
Not true. creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #83
Fuck the Third Way Nictuku Mar 3 #15
And, don't forget to let your inner-bigot shine! Trash Minorities, proclaim your love of Christian Nationalism, and, Oneironaut Mar 3 #16
Not necessary. NH Ethylene Mar 3 #34
woo us with leadership by example... mike_c Mar 3 #71
the right had their tea party around 2010 moonshinegnomie Mar 3 #18
What should we do? creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #27
The Tea Party had no ideology other than bring on younger Republicans somsai Mar 3 #95
What? Ya don't like the job Chuckie Schumer is doing? 3Hotdogs Mar 3 #19
Terrible arricle headline Terry_M Mar 3 #20
I can see that being true, because we've seen it time and time again... C Moon Mar 3 #21
I think we should listen to them SSJVegeta Mar 3 #24
Yes creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #28
Clinton was my favorite but Buzz cook Mar 3 #37
But he held off the conservatives for eight years. creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #38
No he didn't. intheflow Mar 3 #60
Look what happened after he left. creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #79
So what you want is more Democrats that will vote both for war and for tax cuts for the rich? I think not pecosbob Mar 3 #29
Those came with the Trump package. NH Ethylene Mar 3 #36
I think he's arguing don't be on the wrong side of 80/20 issues. pcdb Mar 3 #98
Theoretical bullshit. Let's get some real data. usonian Mar 3 #39
Where is your evidence? creeksneakers2 Mar 3 #82
We need fighters with spines, not Buddyzbuddy Mar 3 #40
BS. nt yaesu Mar 3 #41
How is opposing Trump too far left? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 3 #42
Every election we get these marching orders. n/t flvegan Mar 3 #44
The billionaire backed Vichy Democratic plan Miguelito Loveless Mar 3 #45
Billionaires always jump from their sinking ship to push a right leaning Dem Ponietz Mar 3 #46
the flailing of a dying class of politicians. nt Javaman Mar 3 #47
Democrats do this every election cycle and, over the decades, have moved to the right, then Vinca Mar 3 #48
🍿🙄 QueerDuck Mar 3 #49
Truly shitty idea. Kid Berwyn Mar 3 #50
I disagree with both. everyonematters Mar 3 #51
They need to run on and govern as Trumpism is not the right direction. harun Mar 3 #52
Don't they always? CousinIT Mar 3 #53
JHFC orangecrush Mar 3 #54
RWers are sure up in arms about future elections.............. Lovie777 Mar 3 #55
BULL SHIT! Chasstev365 Mar 3 #57
Labeling OC375 Mar 3 #58
Being MAGA Lite has worked so well for us... mackdaddy Mar 3 #62
When the public . . . Scubamatt Mar 3 #66
i live in texas. the demecrates are still trying the old failed ways moonshinegnomie Mar 3 #67
I know one thing the_liberal_grandpa Mar 3 #68
"Blah blah blah more look forward not backward" shit durablend Mar 3 #72
get my smelling salts, i shall faint! UpInArms Mar 3 #80
Moderate? Do you mean, the professional campaign losers? synni Mar 3 #85
People should stop trying to make Third Way happen. It's conferences by boring people that nobody cares about betsuni Mar 3 #88
Ugh, these people again. Queso Delicioso Mar 3 #90
What a snore-fest. Anyone still whining about the forgotten middle is fast asleep. thought crime Mar 3 #92
We'll never know how popular "more liberal" is because corpoDems are too scared to try it. eppur_se_muova Mar 3 #93
Purity Tests to see who is the most centrist. Emile Mar 3 #94
"Thirtieth verse, same as the first"... regnaD kciN Mar 3 #96
No more I_UndergroundPanther Mar 3 #97
And it begins. . ."democratic party moderates" who fence sit tell us to not be an alternative to the GOP's AZLD4Candidate Mar 3 #99
Don't understand what they mean by swinging too far left Walleye 20 hrs ago #101
Fuck 'em NoRethugFriends 20 hrs ago #102
Third Way "It's good to be the kings best friend." eom SalamanderSleeps 20 hrs ago #103
Why not wait until the results of the midterms before making such claim? Raven123 19 hrs ago #104
After 35 years of working together with their friends across the aisle, DJ Synikus Makisimus 19 hrs ago #105
The billionaires make the Republican Party toxic then switch over to support the farthest right Democrat Ponietz 19 hrs ago #106
Exactly....good example of why AIPAC funds both repubs and some democrats questionseverything 19 hrs ago #107
I'd say they have us by the throat, almost literally, Ponietz 18 hrs ago #109
If the argument is that Democrats lost in 2024 because BlueKota 18 hrs ago #108
I thought this 3rd Way bunch... GiqueCee 17 hrs ago #110
meh...... Red Mountain 17 hrs ago #113
I am more dark blue than light blue Tetrachloride 16 hrs ago #114
Third way? SonOfNebanaube 13 hrs ago #115
Well, I wanted her, but everyone was like, "We need a white, electable Christian male" LeftInTX 12 hrs ago #117
This is the reason I just accepted a job outside the U.S. Blasphemer 7 hrs ago #121

TexasBushwhacker

(21,186 posts)
65. Exactly - when the "right" is controlled by batshit crazy
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:56 AM
Mar 3

rapists and rapist sympathizers (any person who is a victim of sex trafficking is a victim of rape, regardless of age) who will START WARS just to distract from their perverted deeds, why is it on US to "play nice"?

I'm mad as hell and I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!!

We will ALL PAY when farmers lose their farms because of Trump's tariffs.

We will ALL PAY when gas prices go up because of TRUMP'S WAR.

We will ALL PAY when military members DIE in Trump's war.

We will ALL PAY when the national debt skyrockets because of TRUMP'S WARS.

His first term was terrible, but his 2nd has been CATASTROPHIC!!!

Bettie

(19,591 posts)
74. Billionaires won't pay
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:46 PM
Mar 3

but, as you said, the rest of us will.

They are all into socialism when it means that the masses pay for things, they just don't want to contribute anything. I mean, they are willing to give Billions to that orange creature, but not willing to pay taxes.

creon

(2,064 posts)
14. I agree
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:36 AM
Mar 3

WQe do not need a blue on blue.

The emeny is that way son ----->

There is plenty of ammunitrion for firing for effect at the enmy

JHB

(38,144 posts)
111. Don't be fooled by their self-description. These are not moderates
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 06:19 PM
17 hrs ago

These are the people who helped erode the Democratic brand. They're the people who spend 10 times more energy squelching "the Left" than they do making any sort of pushback against Republican radicalism.

LuvLoogie

(8,772 posts)
56. We lose because the party fails to maintain and update
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:33 AM
Mar 3

its coalition. It throws various parts of it under the bus. Many of it's members vote to gut due process, increase citizen surveillance, and place our means of communication and information under control of nihilist tech CEOs.

Days, weeks, months go by before they even consider adressing arising issues that affect constituents in the wild. Corporate Dems blame progressives for losing, but 3rd way keep voting for compromises that GOPs favor. They're like Susan Collins in donkey drag voicing moderate concern, but always going with the corporate donor position.

Bettie

(19,591 posts)
61. Well said....especially this bit:
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:36 AM
Mar 3

"They're like Susan Collins in donkey drag voicing moderate concern, but always going with the corporate donor position."

Absolutely correct.

creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
77. Not correct at all
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:59 PM
Mar 3

Which side is against the Obamacare cuts? Which side is questioning ICE? Etc, etc, etc. Trump is working on being able to steal the next election and installing Fascism forever and you guys push lies that help him.

creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
76. Nope
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:56 PM
Mar 3

There are a small number who do but we've been on the right side all the time. Its the people who make dishonest attacks on Dems that help corporate world. In 2000 the GOP circulated Ralph Nader's nominating petition on PA. Did you know that?

LuvLoogie

(8,772 posts)
86. 12 Senators and 34 House members is not a small number. What we have now is what YOU wanted
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:55 PM
Mar 3
https://truthout.org/articles/aoc-private-prisons-and-politicians-will-profit-from-laken-riley-act/

There are pregnant minors imprisoned in these for -profit prisons, separated from their families without access to lawyers or well-being checks. The DNC wouldn't even give Palestinian Americans/immigrants a speaking roll at our convention. Centering corporate wishes, while giving lip service to justice, might drag you into the shit that your pawns already experience, but your losing their support while you undermine justice for all and fund their demise while blaming them is some empire-level double speak. That the most disenfranchised among us somehow fuck up your committee chairmanships.


creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
89. I don't see the evidence of financial conflicts of interest
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:19 PM
Mar 3

in your truthout article. The Laken Riley Act provided for incarceration of illegal immigrants who commit crimes. Pretty risky to vote against. I don't know what you think I wanted or what you say we have now.

mike_c

(37,016 posts)
69. we lose when moderate democratic leadership tells us to vote for them...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:58 PM
Mar 3

...rather than working to earn our support. Don't campaign as the lesser evil.

creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
84. By working to earn your support
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:13 PM
Mar 3

you must mean agreeing with you instead of the majority of the party. We have a two party system so it has to be about lesser evil. Do you want the greater evil?

Fiendish Thingy

(22,901 posts)
5. There is no middle between Democracy and Fascism
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:49 PM
Mar 2

Centrism is an imaginary, performative construct for politicians without spines or values.

creon

(2,064 posts)
17. First things first
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:42 AM
Mar 3

First you gain offoce.

The mooto must be

"up men! and at 'em! They won't stand!

The, in office, you devise legislation that actually solve problems.

And put away labels.

Remember that social security was first passed was minimal.

choie

(6,883 posts)
6. Third Way??are you serious?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:55 PM
Mar 2

Why the fuck should we listen to these neo liberal, keep things the way they are, m diocrities?

johnnyplankton

(630 posts)
7. Fuck the Third Way
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:56 PM
Mar 2

We lose because we won't deliver on "radical" ideas like universal healthcare. That and a completely corrupted corporate media.

creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
23. Nope
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:28 AM
Mar 3

We lost our majorities in Congress after trying to pass Hillary care. And after Obamacare we lost 63 seats in the House and 7 seat in the Senate. They tried to pass single payer health care in liberal Oregon in 2002. It lost 78.5% to 21.5%. What we got took great sacrifice and its a terrible idea to squander it on pipedreams. Please help out with trying to stop Fascism. It would be a big victory if we could get back what we had a year ago.

mike_c

(37,016 posts)
70. this illustrates the worst instincts of political moderates
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:05 PM
Mar 3

"Just get us back to the way it was before" is a pitiful objective that moderate democratic leadership would call total victory. My gawd.

Skittles

(171,146 posts)
116. THANK YOU
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:56 PM
13 hrs ago

repukes consistently do things that truly ARE outrageous but the best we can hope for is to "get back to where we were before"

Skittles

(171,146 posts)
120. WE DO THAT CONSTANTLY
Wed Mar 11, 2026, 01:12 AM
10 hrs ago

Dems ROUTINELY waste their first years of power cleaning up repuke mess - then guess what? REPUKES GET TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.

questionseverything

(11,748 posts)
112. I think the seats we lost after Obama care were lost because we didn't provide the promised public option
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 06:29 PM
17 hrs ago

NH Ethylene

(31,325 posts)
30. Better to seek to restore funding for Obamacare.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:41 AM
Mar 3

Many moderates can support that while balking at anything more. One step at a time. We need to get back into power and then go slowly with healthcare improvements.

intheflow

(30,150 posts)
59. I think when we get back in power
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:04 AM
Mar 3

we need to move very quickly, while the wounds this regime inflicted are still fresh. Healthcare, yes, but also expand the SCOTUS and launch treason investigations into Trump and all his sycophants. Then give the death penalty to the m-fers convicted. I’m not in favor of the death penalty in most cases, but in treason this egregious, it’s the only thing that will discourage this level of corruption from the right. They only understand violent consequences.

Deuxcents

(26,520 posts)
8. We've been muzzled too long. The sure way to a loss is not taking a stand against these middle of the road ideas
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:58 PM
Mar 2

Deuxcents

(26,520 posts)
31. Our forefathers were radical. Is wanting our kids healthy
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:42 AM
Mar 3

With a quality education, affordable wages, housing, healthcare, clean air n water and an economy that’s fair for everyone radical? Is fixing our aging infrastructure radical? Is having a platform for the betterment of future generations radical? Making promises that are impossible to keep to stay in the middle of the road is not a winning strategy. Jmo 🌺

creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
33. Those things are fine
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:45 AM
Mar 3

If you want to push single payer, defund the police etc we'll lose. What do you mean by fair for everyone? If its socialism it won't fly.

travelingthrulife

(5,054 posts)
64. We lose because of the corrupted media. That phrase, 'defund the police' was
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:54 AM
Mar 3

developed to make us lose.

creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
78. It started on our side.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:02 PM
Mar 3

There were some good ideas there and they should have thought of a name for it that wasn't so shocking.

Prairie Gates

(7,908 posts)
11. This is an opinion piece masquerading as a news article
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:12 AM
Mar 3

What's the news here? Some people have an opinion?

Garbage.

NH Ethylene

(31,325 posts)
32. But they didn't lose last time.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:44 AM
Mar 3

They play dirty and use scare tactics and hot-button social issues.

We need to start off more moderate to WIN. And then lead public opinion - over time - to the point where they support the stances that are now considered to be far left.

creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
35. They hid who they were last time.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:49 AM
Mar 3

They were about halting a flood of illegal immigration, not unleashing gangs of thugs into our cities. I agree that after we stop Fascism we can have a debate about the next step. But first we have to restore what has been destroyed. Then, if we can afford it, look at doing more.

Skittles

(171,146 posts)
43. MAGAts have NEVER hidden who they are
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:41 AM
Mar 3

WE knew this fascist shit would happen....and I for one am SICK of Dems having to waste YEARS cleaning up repuke messes, only for repukes to HIT THE GROUND RUNNING when they get back into power because our mainstream media COMPLETELY fails us.

creeksneakers2

(7,988 posts)
81. People on our side refuse to help too
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:07 PM
Mar 3

We would have won 2000, 2016, and probably others if they had helped. Polls showed we got lower turn out in 2024 because some were convinced Dems weren't trying to stop Trump, a bogus message progressives are still spreading.

Skittles

(171,146 posts)
91. and THAT is in part because of the MEDIA
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:36 PM
Mar 3

Dems always have to do twice as good to be considered half as good and guess what - THAT AFFECTS VOTING

Bettie

(19,591 posts)
73. Correct....we're supposed to always "move toward the center" , but
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:44 PM
Mar 3

the center is now where "far right" used to be and the current version of "far right" is in sociopath/psychopath territory, but somehow, we're supposed to move toward that because the loudest, most obnoxious (mostly) white men are there.

That's what we always get: "Do what the loudest white men want!"

Oneironaut

(6,279 posts)
16. And, don't forget to let your inner-bigot shine! Trash Minorities, proclaim your love of Christian Nationalism, and,
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:38 AM
Mar 3

scold the "Far-Left" for being big meanies to Trump.

Or, we could have a spine?

NH Ethylene

(31,325 posts)
34. Not necessary.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:45 AM
Mar 3

Show the people what honor is, what patriotism is, what compassion is. They need to be wooed, not yanked.

mike_c

(37,016 posts)
71. woo us with leadership by example...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:23 PM
Mar 3

...rather than self-serving marching orders. I want genuine progressive improvement, not just a return to 2024. What are those moderate democrats doing to impede Trump today, and what progressive goals have they demonstrated leadership toward for tomorrow? Lead by example, like the progressive coalition.

moonshinegnomie

(3,999 posts)
18. the right had their tea party around 2010
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:44 AM
Mar 3

the dems need their version now to replace th o ld guard with young fighters ready to get in th egutter and fight the fascists instead of sending strongly worded notes .

somsai

(234 posts)
95. The Tea Party had no ideology other than bring on younger Republicans
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:13 PM
Mar 3

Mostly Americans for Prosperity funded. Every time I hear Democrats align themselves or quote from Koch or CATO I think Democrats have lost large portions of the electorate.

Terry_M

(818 posts)
20. Terrible arricle headline
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:01 AM
Mar 3

The headline says dont go left but if you read the article content the advice is spot on - be more plain, talk more simply, dont just assume trolling Trump is gonna win you elections. Actually come up with an economic message that the common person will understand. Those things are all important and correct.

C Moon

(13,601 posts)
21. I can see that being true, because we've seen it time and time again...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:03 AM
Mar 3

the public forgets WAY to quickly.

When the Democratic party gains control again, they need to start charging and seeing those who are now breaking our laws are sentenced and pay for their crimes. No more let's heal and move on. It doesn't work with the gop.

SSJVegeta

(2,765 posts)
24. I think we should listen to them
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:28 AM
Mar 3

Because every time Democrats listen to moderates, it always works out well for them.

Buzz cook

(2,877 posts)
37. Clinton was my favorite but
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:02 AM
Mar 3

Lots of where he failed was because he listened to moderates.
NAFTA was an attempt to appease moderate republicans and conservative democrats.
Ending Glass Steagall was a gift to moderates.
But worst was media consolidation. We may never recover from that.

intheflow

(30,150 posts)
60. No he didn't.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:13 AM
Mar 3

He was president when Newt Gingrich launched the contract on America and kicked millions off of welfare. Clinton started the bombing campaign against Iraq which gave Bush “bipartisan” support for invading them. And they impeached him for having consensual sex with an adult. Obama was a way better leader for his 8 years.

pecosbob

(8,372 posts)
29. So what you want is more Democrats that will vote both for war and for tax cuts for the rich? I think not
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:37 AM
Mar 3

NH Ethylene

(31,325 posts)
36. Those came with the Trump package.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:58 AM
Mar 3

People don't necessarily approve of them (in fact I've seen some hard-line Trumpers grow cool to Trump in the last couple of days over the Iran war). And remember Luigi Mangione? Right after he killed the insurance CEO, everybody was cheering him (while saying murder was wrong, of course, but . . . ) However, the minute Trump condemned the killing, the MAGAs switched their sentiments in true, follow-the-leader fashion. With the right kind of presentation, taxing the rich could become a popular Democratic stance that would not alienate anyone as being too far left. Similarly, stop the war in the Middle East may very well be quite a popular message by November.

usonian

(24,770 posts)
39. Theoretical bullshit. Let's get some real data.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:24 AM
Mar 3

Long story short. Bernie and AOC are generating enough excitement to break through the propaganda wall.

Only a REVOLUTIONARY Democratic party will win, because the maga servants of the rich think they are part of a revolution.
Against an Emmanuel Goldstein kind of enemy who exists in Fox Fiction.

A grassroots revolution is needed for the party to win.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/13244015

The Democratic Party needs to be REVOLUTIONARY, not reactionary. That is how we win. PERIOD.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=420478

Buddyzbuddy

(2,459 posts)
40. We need fighters with spines, not
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:45 AM
Mar 3

go along to get along, capitulating, compromisers ready to run Republican light.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(134,968 posts)
42. How is opposing Trump too far left?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:01 AM
Mar 3

Nearly everyone agrees we shouldn't be in Iran.

Nearly everyone agrees his tax cuts mostly favor the rich. Even if the taxes of the poor and middle class are cut, we're paying more for healthcare, food and fuel so they won't make a difference.

Ponietz

(4,268 posts)
46. Billionaires always jump from their sinking ship to push a right leaning Dem
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:31 AM
Mar 3

It happens every time.

Vinca

(53,809 posts)
48. Democrats do this every election cycle and, over the decades, have moved to the right, then
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:46 AM
Mar 3

more to the right. Haven't they learned yet that Republicans will vote for real Republicans and not right-leaning Democrats? They'd be better off embracing the left of center Democrats rather than abandoning them. It seems younger voters, in particular, are itching for change as opposed to the same old politics.

everyonematters

(4,111 posts)
51. I disagree with both.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:14 AM
Mar 3

Push progressive economic policies and deemphasize social issues except for abortion - Bernie Sanders.

harun

(11,381 posts)
52. They need to run on and govern as Trumpism is not the right direction.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:17 AM
Mar 3

Clearly stating Trump is not a Conservative, he is a Right Wing Populist.

Running and governing on Left Wing Populism is the way.

Health care
Capped lending rates at 15% max (credit cards, etc.)
Only Congress can declare war
Violent ice agents are not the answer to immigration

Lovie777

(22,762 posts)
55. RWers are sure up in arms about future elections..............
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:25 AM
Mar 3

constant divisions thrust upon the "big tent" Democratic Party is always the RW conclusion that Democrats can't get along. In most elections, we can work together and when that happens we win. 2025 was a good year for Democrats, midterm 2026 will also be in favor for us.

But alas, the pro-dictator republican party got tons of money and corporate media is pro-propaganda. They hate democracy and they hate the US as well as her citizens.

OC375

(752 posts)
58. Labeling
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:38 AM
Mar 3

That’s what sucks the air out of the room. Run a good straight forward platform and people will respond.

Scubamatt

(295 posts)
66. When the public . . .
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:59 AM
Mar 3

is given a choice between voting for Republicans versus Republicans-lite, they will always vote for Republicans. Why don't we FIGHT for things that matter to most Americans, like living wage, affordable healthcare, access to reproductive health, letting people live their lives, and governmental accountability - and leave the labels for the pundits and talk show hosts. Fight for the issues - really fight - and we will win.

moonshinegnomie

(3,999 posts)
67. i live in texas. the demecrates are still trying the old failed ways
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:07 AM
Mar 3

they havent wont anything in 30 years and yet the party leaders are still trying to do things the way they used to do them,at least my local party is. several ket member recently quit in disgust at the continuing of teh losing ways. there are rumors that a new democratic organization is starting up,one that is geard more toward progressives then stuck in the mud moderates

68. I know one thing
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:19 AM
Mar 3

Moderate dems will not get a single dollar from me in donations.

Win or lose, its time to stop corporate democrats from stopping progress in our country

UpInArms

(54,796 posts)
80. get my smelling salts, i shall faint!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:06 PM
Mar 3

why would we want healthcare for all, food and education for the children, living wages and a healthy economy that works for all, not just the billionaires

synni

(760 posts)
85. Moderate? Do you mean, the professional campaign losers?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:46 PM
Mar 3

I have no desire to listen to anything these people say. I'm tired of them turning potential victories into defeats.

betsuni

(28,996 posts)
88. People should stop trying to make Third Way happen. It's conferences by boring people that nobody cares about
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:26 PM
Mar 3

and I only see anybody trying to make it into some kind of threat here. Is the big threat being bored to death? Just a chance to say "neoliberal" as an meaningless insult and insinuate the majority of the Democratic Party are out to neoliberal everybody with speeches? To get people not to vote Democratic it has to be scary, not boring!

thought crime

(1,482 posts)
92. What a snore-fest. Anyone still whining about the forgotten middle is fast asleep.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:58 PM
Mar 3

Sorry but if you're not with us, you're just part of the problem.

eppur_se_muova

(41,727 posts)
93. We'll never know how popular "more liberal" is because corpoDems are too scared to try it.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:35 PM
Mar 3

Third Way ? No way, no thanks !

Emile

(41,947 posts)
94. Purity Tests to see who is the most centrist.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:54 PM
Mar 3

Instead of going after the MYTHICAL CROSS OVER VOTES, what are they doing to prevent Trump from disrupting the upcoming midterms?

AZLD4Candidate

(6,757 posts)
99. And it begins. . ."democratic party moderates" who fence sit tell us to not be an alternative to the GOP's
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:22 PM
Mar 3

bullshit and to be tepid centrists or else we will face the wrath of fascists and xenophobes.

Walleye

(44,554 posts)
101. Don't understand what they mean by swinging too far left
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 03:32 PM
20 hrs ago

now defending the constitution and the bill of rights is swinging too far left. If the Democratic Party doesn’t stand up for the rights of the oppressed people in this country, who will?

Raven123

(7,757 posts)
104. Why not wait until the results of the midterms before making such claim?
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 03:48 PM
19 hrs ago

Also, If a “moderate” can present an agenda with the clarity of the progressives, I would appreciate it.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,404 posts)
105. After 35 years of working together with their friends across the aisle,
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 04:00 PM
19 hrs ago

the Clinton liberals are terrified at their self-made obsolescence. They want you to be "reasonable." Uh-huh. Because that's worked out so well.

Turns out that backing Reaganite economics and asking Republicans' permission to pass legislation isn't a resounding success. Who'da thunk?

Don't let the lid hit you in the ass as you descend into the dustbin of history, Third Way.

Ponietz

(4,268 posts)
106. The billionaires make the Republican Party toxic then switch over to support the farthest right Democrat
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 04:01 PM
19 hrs ago

The right-leaning Democrat maintains we should look forward and move on. Rinse and repeat. They’ve run this scheme for 50 years. Right on cue, ‘moderate’ concern trolls show up to tamp down Democratic enthusiasm and expectations.

questionseverything

(11,748 posts)
107. Exactly....good example of why AIPAC funds both repubs and some democrats
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 04:35 PM
19 hrs ago

No matter which side wins, they have some control

Ponietz

(4,268 posts)
109. I'd say they have us by the throat, almost literally,
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 05:40 PM
18 hrs ago

since their speech, i.e. money, drowns all other voices in the political arena. If I’m a congressperson taking money from 10 or 15 PACs their opinions are the ONLY ones I care about. I’ll let them frame the topics and dominate the debate through media ownership and micro targeted propaganda.

BlueKota

(5,260 posts)
108. If the argument is that Democrats lost in 2024 because
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 05:25 PM
18 hrs ago

Progressives refused to vote, isn't advising that their input should be minimized counterproductive? Instead of trying to achieve compromise with a Republicon party that has made it clear they only want their way or the highway, try crafting a deal between moderate and progressive Democrats. I don't know for sure, but I don't think no matter what strategy Democrats use, if there are enough moderate Republicans willing to vote for any Democrat, moderate or progressive to win. Finding ways to unite our base and get us all excited to vote seems in my opinion a better option. Plus I disagree that pointing out what a train wreck tsf has caused is a loosing strategy. People are pissed and let down. Use that righteous anger to drive voters to the polls. Scare tactics work. Tsf won because he made people fear and despise Democrats. It's time the Democrats wake up and make people realize the real villains are the Republicons.

Do a commercial that asks viewers if their underage daughter was raped, do they really want to force her to carry her rapist's baby? Do they really want her only option to be a coat hanger back alley abortion to end it? What if the mental health strain makes their daughter suicidal. Doesn't her life matter?

All I saw in my area from Democrats were policy wonk ads, talking about bipartisanship, and how they could represent everyone's interests, and a very meek message that tsf didn't care about them. Not ads that warned how dangerous tsf was to the Constitution, Women's Rights, Children. The thing is we wouldn't even be lying like the Republicons were about us. Making it clear how truly the fucking psychopath right wingers are dangerous for the country, would work to get Democrats elected in my view.

SonOfNebanaube

(102 posts)
115. Third way?
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:52 PM
13 hrs ago

Isn't that the fascists running their mouth? Plenty of Republicans would support Bernie Sanders. Democratic Socialism is the same as FDR. It's the Yin-Yang that regulates Capitalism while Unregulated Capitalism is just Organized Crime.

LeftInTX

(34,130 posts)
117. Well, I wanted her, but everyone was like, "We need a white, electable Christian male"
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 11:41 PM
12 hrs ago


Carry on....bash centrists, but I supported Jasmine because she's a fighter. I'm gonna miss her in congress.

Don't look at me....

And in another district, there is a crazy one who everyone is supporting. She doesn't have a chance of winning in November. She doesn't believe in campaigning. Didn't campaign. Doesn't talk to voters, but she doesn't take money from Israel, because well, Israel has never heard of her. So, the Democrats are supporting her because of Gaza. This is in a red district.

We also have a former incarcerated cop, jailed on corruption who's newest motto is "fuck the police".
(I don't think she's gonna win her run off) But this chick is mean and evil and is about as nice as "Ilsa She Wolf of the SS" but "fuck the police. Fuck ICE" and "I'm fighting against the injustices against me" got her alot of votes.

Blasphemer

(3,619 posts)
121. This is the reason I just accepted a job outside the U.S.
Wed Mar 11, 2026, 04:03 AM
7 hrs ago

The system is broken beyond repair and “our” side doesn't get that.

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