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BumRushDaShow

(162,550 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:17 AM Sep 29

Stephen Miller takes leading role in strikes on alleged Venezuelan drug boats

Source: The Guardian

Mon 29 Sep 2025 06.00 EDT
Last modified on Mon 29 Sep 2025 06.01 EDT


Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff, has played a leading role in directing US strikes against suspected Venezuelan drug boats, according to three people familiar with the situation. At times, his role has superseded that of Marco Rubio, the secretary of state and national security adviser.

The strikes on the Venezuelan boats allegedly carrying narcotics, which the administration has claimed were necessary because interdiction did not work, have been orchestrated through the homeland security council (HSC), which Miller leads as the homeland security adviser.

Miller empowered the HSC earlier this year to become its own entity in Donald Trump’s second term, a notable departure from previous administrations where it was considered part of the national security council and ultimately reported to the national security adviser.

As a result, the HSC has taken the lead on engaging the Venezuelan boats, the people said, a situation evidenced by his top deputy, Tony Salisbury, and others being the gatekeepers to details about what boat to strike until they are about to occur.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/29/stephen-miller-venezuela-drug-boat-strike

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Stephen Miller takes leading role in strikes on alleged Venezuelan drug boats (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 29 OP
The Shadow President no_hypocrisy Sep 29 #1
He's counting on a blanket pardon from Trump before he's 25th Amendmented muriel_volestrangler Sep 29 #12
A blanket pardon liberalgunwilltravel Sep 29 #20
Wouldn't it be luvverly if an incoming Democratic president and Congress signed up to the ICC muriel_volestrangler Sep 29 #22
"Miller exposed as leader in strikes on Venezuelan drug boats". There, title fixed. nt Javaman Sep 29 #2
This Nazi ghoul probably gets off on it. nt Dulcinea Sep 29 #3
He loves killing people. All legal. Irish_Dem Sep 29 #4
Who is actually giving the US Navy commands to fire on the boats? Miller's position can't have that kind of authority ChicagoTeamster Sep 29 #5
Most likely, Miller orders Hegseth to issue the orders. No proof of drug smuggling needed. Lonestarblue Sep 29 #10
SecDef should only take orders from President. Miller didn't undergo Congressional approval hearings. ChicagoTeamster Sep 29 #13
my guess is, Blackjackdavey Sep 29 #16
When this finally ends, and Miller has been sentenced in Nuremberg II, Buns_of_Fire Sep 29 #6
He did the same type shit last time orangecrush Sep 29 #7
Put him on a boat Marthe48 Sep 29 #8
Matador loves blood and gore IronLionZion Sep 29 #9
This is all about creating an incident, finding a pretext for an invasion of Venezuela and overthrowing Maduro. sop Sep 29 #11
I can see that Bayard Sep 29 #18
Well, presumably, Miller doesn't enjoy a "Get Out of Jail Free" immunity shield as does his orange Texin Sep 29 #14
Pardons will be issued to everyone on the way out the door. sop Sep 29 #15
Miller will sit in the dock of the war crimes trials Mysterian Sep 29 #17
When we take back this country drmeow Sep 29 #19
Great! When the time comes Turbineguy Sep 29 #21
No surprise there. amcgrath Sep 29 #23
Little Nazi Stephen, sexual dynamo. louis-t Sep 29 #24

muriel_volestrangler

(105,105 posts)
12. He's counting on a blanket pardon from Trump before he's 25th Amendmented
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 10:00 AM
Sep 29

I reckon Vance wouldn't give him one, because that would be a very convenient way for Vance to eliminate a rival.

20. A blanket pardon
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 02:43 PM
Sep 29

Won’t protect from “crimes against humanity” charges or the multitudes of enemies he’s made.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,105 posts)
22. Wouldn't it be luvverly if an incoming Democratic president and Congress signed up to the ICC
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 02:54 PM
Sep 29

so that it could prosecute crimes against humanity that the ridiculous US presidential pardon prevents?

But I'm not holding my breath. More likely, it'd just stop Miller visiting civilised countries, and restrict him to Russia, China, North Korea etc. Which are probably the only places he wants to go anyway.

ChicagoTeamster

(89 posts)
5. Who is actually giving the US Navy commands to fire on the boats? Miller's position can't have that kind of authority
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 08:29 AM
Sep 29

Doesn't a command like that have to follow a chain along the lines of someone in the Joint Chiefs to a Navy or Coast Guard admiral to the ship commander? Supposedly, the crews on these ships were asking their commanders for some kind of immunity from prosecution because they're not convinced of the legality of the orders.

Lonestarblue

(13,063 posts)
10. Most likely, Miller orders Hegseth to issue the orders. No proof of drug smuggling needed.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 09:19 AM
Sep 29

Venezuela isn’t even the biggest source of illegal drugs coming into the US. The majority come through Mexico. Perhaps Trump is making a case to declare war on Venezuela and take over their oil and gas resources.

ChicagoTeamster

(89 posts)
13. SecDef should only take orders from President. Miller didn't undergo Congressional approval hearings.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 10:50 AM
Sep 29

That means Trump probably isn't even consulted, just advised during or after. So, he's not even running anything, just acting like it's his plan when he vomits word salads or signs executive orders.

Blackjackdavey

(247 posts)
16. my guess is,
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 01:17 PM
Sep 29

they don't necessarily need to take over the oil. I'm assuming they are simply trying to destabilize the oil market and drive up prices because their drill baby drill isn't working out according to plan as the oil supply surplus make it cost ineffective. It's about oil, but not to take, just to make the price per barrel increase. And this plan is so far also not working as each provocation simply seems to cause OPEC nations to just release more oil.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,879 posts)
6. When this finally ends, and Miller has been sentenced in Nuremberg II,
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 08:32 AM
Sep 29

he's the one I most expect to take the Hermann Goering route to avoid execution -- a cyanide capsule.

sop

(16,682 posts)
11. This is all about creating an incident, finding a pretext for an invasion of Venezuela and overthrowing Maduro.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 09:28 AM
Sep 29

ExxonMobil and ConocoPhillips had their investments in Venezuela nationalized in 2007 by the Venezuelan government. Big Oil is behind this.

Bayard

(27,613 posts)
18. I can see that
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 01:41 PM
Sep 29

Follow the money. Business as usual. Forget the subtlety of an Economic Hit Man.

Texin

(2,812 posts)
14. Well, presumably, Miller doesn't enjoy a "Get Out of Jail Free" immunity shield as does his orange
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 10:50 AM
Sep 29

master, and perhaps he can be prosecuted at some point.

Mysterian

(6,050 posts)
17. Miller will sit in the dock of the war crimes trials
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 01:18 PM
Sep 29

when the rule of law is re-established in the USA.

drmeow

(5,808 posts)
19. When we take back this country
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 02:03 PM
Sep 29

this demon spawn needs to be turned over to the ICC for trial.

amcgrath

(416 posts)
23. No surprise there.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:07 PM
Sep 29

He is a deviant. His involvement would be expected, it may not be his department but wherever there is cruelty or death, Miller will be drawn to it. It excites him.

louis-t

(24,516 posts)
24. Little Nazi Stephen, sexual dynamo.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:18 PM
Sep 29

Getting his rocks off killing people. Who cares if we don't know whether they are actually drug dealers on the boat, "this is fun" says Steverino.

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