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riversedge

(76,628 posts)
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 12:50 PM Tuesday

Trump Secretly Asked Zelensky if He Can Attack Moscow After His 'Bad' Call With Putin

Source: daily beast



EXPLOSIVE CALL
The U.S. president said he wanted Russians to “feel the pain” of Putin’s war.

Leigh Kimmins Published Jul. 15 2025 12:06PM EDT

TOPSHOT - US President Donald Trump speaks to the press about the conflict in Ukraine before boarding Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base March 14, 2025, in Maryland. Trump is spending the weekend at his Florida Mar-a-Lago resort. (Photo by Brendan Smialowski / AFP) (Photo by BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images)


President Trump asked Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky if Kyiv could strike Moscow if the U.S. provided long-range weapons, according to the Financial Times.

Trump privately pushed for Ukraine to ramp up its attacks deep inside Russia on a July 4 call with Zelensky—the day after Trump had what he described as a “bad” conversation with Putin, sources told the FT.

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Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-secretly-asked-zelensky-if-he-can-attack-moscow-after-his-bad-call-with-putin/








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Trump Secretly Asked Zelensky if He Can Attack Moscow After His 'Bad' Call With Putin (Original Post) riversedge Tuesday OP
Forgive me if I don't believe this. gab13by13 Tuesday #1
Putin is learning what everyone eventually learns about Trump WSHazel Tuesday #5
Zelensky also know this about Trump LiberalLovinLug Tuesday #16
Trump asked "Zelensky if Kyiv could strike Moscow if the U.S. provided long-range weapons"? sop Tuesday #2
My exact same first impression n/t BaronChocula Tuesday #9
The fool let Netanyaku drag us into attacking Iran, but Iran doesn't yet have nukes like Putin. brush Tuesday #3
I call Bullshit on this report! Wuddles440 Tuesday #4
If he asked so secretly, Mr. Evil Tuesday #6
Sweet Jesu! CTyankee Tuesday #7
Immediately after the call, Zelenskyy rolls over and giggles to Olena, Torchlight Tuesday #8
Maybe Putin has threatened to expose the pedoprez alittlelark Tuesday #10
IF he did ask this, i say there is a reason why. My thought is bluestarone Tuesday #11
Don't think there would a nuke strike bc thw winds can easly blow radiation back into Russia. Otoh... electric_blue68 Tuesday #17
There is a lot of misinformation and hypocrisy shrouding this war hueymahl Tuesday #12
Trump's gonna fuck up your countries like he has fucked up ours. twodogsbarking Tuesday #13
There is a lot of stuff he supposedly says just to get all you knee-jerk folks going. Srkdqltr Tuesday #14
If true, Trump better not get too cocky. Putin is waaay smarter and even more evil than Trump could ever hope to be Marie Marie Tuesday #15

gab13by13

(28,885 posts)
1. Forgive me if I don't believe this.
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 12:59 PM
Tuesday

Unless Krasnov wanted to know if Ukraine was planning on going deeper into Russia and then Krasnov could relay the message to Putin.

WSHazel

(532 posts)
5. Putin is learning what everyone eventually learns about Trump
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 01:06 PM
Tuesday

He absolutely can not be trusted. He will stab Putin in the back on whatever deal they had as easily as he changes his mind on what socks he wants to wear.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,469 posts)
16. Zelensky also know this about Trump
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 07:03 PM
Tuesday

Is that why we saw a lot of drone attacks in the last couple weeks by Ukraine?

Zelensky should for sure take advantage of the situation. Because he should know that Trump can change on a dime. Some new call from his boyfriend in Moscow and he's suddenly back on the Ukraine are the aggressors and don't want peace....train. (And telling Putin in private he has cart blanche to bomb the shit out of Ukraine's people)

sop

(15,232 posts)
2. Trump asked "Zelensky if Kyiv could strike Moscow if the U.S. provided long-range weapons"?
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 12:59 PM
Tuesday

Trump is certifiably insane.

BaronChocula

(3,004 posts)
9. My exact same first impression n/t
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 01:51 PM
Tuesday

Ordinarily a change of heart would be welcomed, but with Demented Don it's unsettling. This guy can just do anything at the spur of the moment. This country is teetering.

brush

(60,609 posts)
3. The fool let Netanyaku drag us into attacking Iran, but Iran doesn't yet have nukes like Putin.
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 01:00 PM
Tuesday

The cowardly repukes in Congress need to stop this fool before Russian nukes come raining down.

Mr. Evil

(3,351 posts)
6. If he asked so secretly,
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 01:15 PM
Tuesday

how come we're reading about it?

Putin goads Krasnov TSF to ask Zelenskyy if he has long range capabilities. Krasnov TSF then relays it to Putin. Putin's easy intel. KrasnovTSF is literally dripping stupid every time he takes a breath.

Torchlight

(5,139 posts)
8. Immediately after the call, Zelenskyy rolls over and giggles to Olena,
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 01:15 PM
Tuesday

"Weird call. I think Putin dumped him again, just before prom this time. Sounds serious. I'm sure they'll work it out."

alittlelark

(19,013 posts)
10. Maybe Putin has threatened to expose the pedoprez
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 01:56 PM
Tuesday

U just KNOW he has a dump truck full of filth on kraznov….. maybe even a copy of the Epstein files.

bluestarone

(19,956 posts)
11. IF he did ask this, i say there is a reason why. My thought is
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 01:57 PM
Tuesday

TSF would blame Zelensky, then let russia use a nuke on Ukraine! Zelensky is smarter than TSF ever will be!!

electric_blue68

(22,440 posts)
17. Don't think there would a nuke strike bc thw winds can easly blow radiation back into Russia. Otoh...
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 07:21 PM
Tuesday

maybe Putin wouldn't care.

I sure hope nothing like that happens!

hueymahl

(2,816 posts)
12. There is a lot of misinformation and hypocrisy shrouding this war
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 02:37 PM
Tuesday

But that is true for all war.

Hopefully this one will end soon. The death and injury to these young men and women is heartbreaking.

Marie Marie

(10,340 posts)
15. If true, Trump better not get too cocky. Putin is waaay smarter and even more evil than Trump could ever hope to be
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 04:01 PM
Tuesday

and in a battle of wits, well- I think we all know.... Better stay away from windows, have all your lousy food tested for polonium, and make sure that luxury jet doesn't have any undercover Russian mechanics doing the AF 1 upgrades.

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