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BumRushDaShow

(157,020 posts)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:32 AM Jul 5

Newsom to head to South Carolina next week to speak to Southern voters as his flirtation with 2028 grows

Source: msn/The Independent

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California Governor Gavin Newsom will visit Trump strongholds in South Carolina next week, in a two-day trip seen by many as a prelude to a long-rumored 2028 presidential campaign. The Democrat’s trip to the state, which went for Trump in 2024, will see him visit rural counties, including Pickens County, where the president won 76 percent of the vote last year.

South Carolina has been the first Democratic presidential primary on the calendar, and has a large share of Black voters, a core part of the Democratic base.

“Governor Newsom leads the largest economy in America and the fourth largest in the world, and he’s coming to meet folks in towns that have been hollowed out by decades of Republican control,” state Democratic party chair Christale Spain, said in a statement to The Hill on Thursday. “This is about building partnerships, uplifting communities, and showing rural voters they aren’t forgotten.”

The trip will see the governor, perhaps the country’s most prominent Democrat outside of Washington, visit settings including cafes, coffee shops, churches and the Kershaw County Council on Aging, according to an itinerary obtained by the state’s Post and Courier newspaper.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newsom-to-head-to-south-carolina-next-week-to-speak-to-southern-voters-as-his-flirtation-with-2028-grows/ar-AA1HZwF4

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Newsom to head to South Carolina next week to speak to Southern voters as his flirtation with 2028 grows (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 5 OP
Will he change even one republican voter's mind? That's the $64,000 question wolfie001 Jul 5 #1
"Will he change even one republican voter's mind?" J_William_Ryan Jul 5 #2
Correct SCantiGOP Jul 5 #4
He does need to win the Electoral College DenaliDemocrat Jul 5 #6
I sense a ketchup hurricane. twodogsbarking Jul 5 #3
A Democrat from California DenaliDemocrat Jul 5 #5
"Californians are viewed as 'on the fringe' and out of touch with rural/bucolic people." BumRushDaShow Jul 5 #10
That was then. This is now. DenaliDemocrat Jul 6 #14
I am collecting Social Security BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #15
Yeah, I read Howl in college DenaliDemocrat Jul 6 #17
California is full of "transplants" of different backgrounds and political experience BumRushDaShow Jul 7 #28
Unless you live out west DenaliDemocrat Jul 7 #29
This country will never be a monolith BumRushDaShow Jul 7 #30
For fuck's sake DenaliDemocrat Jul 7 #31
What we NEED is to follow Tip O'Neill's exhortation BumRushDaShow Jul 7 #33
People don't base their vote on the VP DenaliDemocrat Jul 8 #39
I guarantee that quite a few DID do such BumRushDaShow Jul 8 #40
The Republicans/Democrats of that era Miguelito Loveless Jul 7 #24
Bucolic people? maxsolomon Jul 7 #18
Yeah LA is bucolic. DenaliDemocrat Jul 7 #32
We just saw how well a CA democrat does fujiyamasan Jul 8 #38
I am happy Newsome is standing up to Trump, Miguelito Loveless Jul 5 #7
Newsom is anything but that. maxsolomon Jul 7 #19
I have no desire to be sold out by a charismatic Miguelito Loveless Jul 7 #22
I prefer to win. maxsolomon Jul 7 #23
Thank you for the correction on his name Miguelito Loveless Jul 7 #25
Who is your preferred candidate then? fujiyamasan Jul 8 #36
Newsom get my vote, reluctantly, if they decide to lose again Miguelito Loveless Jul 8 #41
Won't vote for him. No more corp. dems. Enough of their grift! tazcat Jul 5 #8
So you'll vote for JD Vance? Musk's candidate? Not vote at all? maxsolomon Jul 7 #20
Of course he'd have my vote as the nominee Red Mountain Jul 5 #9
Newsom is testing the waters. Dulcinea Jul 5 #11
He should practice with NC, they're a little more refined up there. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jul 5 #12
I live in CA. He's not a bad governor. fujiyamasan Jul 6 #13
I look at the rest of the Dem field, and "a little slick" might be just what we need. maxsolomon Jul 7 #21
_ LudwigPastorius Jul 6 #16
Republicans hate anything to do with California Diamond_Dog Jul 7 #26
Republicans don't vote in Democratic Primaries. maxsolomon Jul 7 #34
Oh oops sorry, my bad. Diamond_Dog Jul 7 #35
This is true, especially if the calendar stays the same fujiyamasan Jul 8 #37
Nothankyou SSJVegeta Jul 7 #27

wolfie001

(5,743 posts)
1. Will he change even one republican voter's mind? That's the $64,000 question
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:37 AM
Jul 5

I mean, they re-elect that closet case Graham every election. He gives them hate and bigotry and he sets the table for the orange bloated lying fraudster.

J_William_Ryan

(2,864 posts)
2. "Will he change even one republican voter's mind?"
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:53 AM
Jul 5

He doesn’t need to – it’s about winning the Democratic primary.

SCantiGOP

(14,552 posts)
4. Correct
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:27 AM
Jul 5

Obama and Biden both effectively secured their nominations in the SC primary.
And that is not a good thing. Iowa, NH and SC are three of the most atypical electorates in the country. It makes no sense to let them pick the nominees almost every election.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,660 posts)
5. A Democrat from California
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:43 AM
Jul 5

Will NEVER win the Electoral College. Ever. Even in blue states like New Mexico and Colorado, Californians are viewed as “on the fringe” and out of touch with rural/bucolic people. In a way - they are. Kim Kardashian may as well be from another country trying to compared to my Hispanic Tio and Tia.

BumRushDaShow

(157,020 posts)
10. "Californians are viewed as 'on the fringe' and out of touch with rural/bucolic people."
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:36 PM
Jul 5

You had one "native" Californian (Tricky Dick Nixon) and one "transplanted" Californian (Ronald Raygun) both get elected President for 2 terms in "landslides", although obviously both were (R)s, and corrupt as hell.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,660 posts)
14. That was then. This is now.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:42 AM
Jul 6

California used to be a Republican state and the South used to vote Democratic. Seriously? This isn’t even an argument. How old are you? I’m assuming too young to remember these things.

BumRushDaShow

(157,020 posts)
15. I am collecting Social Security
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jul 6

so I suggest you not go there with that idiotic assumption and maybe learn a thing or two when called out on your incorrect statement about anyone from California ever elected President.

The "beat" culture came out of CA in the '50s as did much of the modern and more radical Civil Rights protest movement and specifically out of Oakland. Maybe look up Bobby Seale and Huey Newton and even this woman -



She ran on the Communist Party ticket against Nixon (the same election that Shirley Chisholm was also running) -



She's still around giving speeches and interviews -



They all preceded Nixon and Raygun's ascendancy.

Your comparison of the GOP of the past and of now just underscores the ignorance.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,660 posts)
17. Yeah, I read Howl in college
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 06:22 PM
Jul 6

Doesn’t make your statement smart. California politics don’t play in much of the country - even the blue states.

BumRushDaShow

(157,020 posts)
28. California is full of "transplants" of different backgrounds and political experience
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jul 7

So one can never "assume" what can or cannot happen.

As you should know, like here in PA, in NY, and in NJ, CA has rotated through both (D)s and (R)s as governors. I think Jerry Brown may have been the closest to being a "populist liberal", something that has taken root decades later with Bernie Sanders and other progressives, and was popular in the state (and he had multiple presidential runs - the last of which netting him some states).

DenaliDemocrat

(1,660 posts)
29. Unless you live out west
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 03:36 PM
Jul 7

I don’t care. East Coast politics aren’t very popular either. Again, California Democrats are not winning in much of the country and the EC is the goal.

BumRushDaShow

(157,020 posts)
30. This country will never be a monolith
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jul 7

so simply dismissing your biggest population centers in the states that have some of the largest number of Electoral Votes, is foolish.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,660 posts)
31. For fuck's sake
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:07 PM
Jul 7

That strategy DOES NOT WORK and NY LOST EV’s. We need candidates that can appeal to Midwest and Western voters.

BumRushDaShow

(157,020 posts)
33. What we NEED is to follow Tip O'Neill's exhortation
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:20 PM
Jul 7

"All politics are local".



When there were periods when Democrats had concentrated power in some states, the corruption eventually accelerated along with the infighting and eventually the other side taking advantage. This happened in TX as we went from the likes of LBJ and Ann Richards to Shrub, Perry, and Abbott.

However, this same phenomena is, interestingly enough, starting to happen in states like TX (where the state legislature has attempted several times to impeach Paxton) and it has been happening in FL, where the legislature has started bucking DeSantis.

Much of our state party infrastructure is either broken or non-existent. If we can bolster that, then we will be able to better recruit candidates across all 50 states, to run for office and not just insist on one perspective as "it".

It was obvious that Tim Walz didn't appeal as a "midwesterner" who looked and dressed and acted like the people you claim control the electorate. And the fact that a native born jackass from the "blue state" of New York - and not just from the state in general, but from the blue city of New York (Queens borough), has won the Presidency now twice, belies your argument. And no, 45 is NOT from Florida or the midwest, if you missed that fact.

BumRushDaShow

(157,020 posts)
40. I guarantee that quite a few DID do such
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jul 8

when Biden was running as Obama's VP because before that, black candidates were lucky to maybe get 30% of the white vote. But you knew that, right?

Miguelito Loveless

(5,087 posts)
24. The Republicans/Democrats of that era
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:58 PM
Jul 7

has little to do with the realities of today's parties. While certainly conservative, Reagan/Nixon would be considered Communists by today's MAGA faithful. And pre-civi rights Southern Dems moved to the Republican party in order to keep being racists.

fujiyamasan

(501 posts)
38. We just saw how well a CA democrat does
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:55 AM
Jul 8

I don’t see Newsom doing considerably better than Harris.

Neighboring states especially hate Californians, I don’t see AZ or NV for example voting for one of us. It’s almost reflexive. Driving up the cost of real estate alone has given many people an excuse to hate people from here.

maxsolomon

(36,932 posts)
19. Newsom is anything but that.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:46 PM
Jul 7

He's not Bernie Sanders or Ilhan Omar, either.

SOMEONE has to be the DEM nominee. Wouldn't you like someone with charisma for a change?

Miguelito Loveless

(5,087 posts)
22. I have no desire to be sold out by a charismatic
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jul 7

Newsome is a mixed bag. He started off on all the right notes, then turned on the immigrant community and kow-towed to Big Oil.

Hard to trust a Dem who gives a platform to Steve Bannon, and makes all of those "we have to work with our colleagues across the aisle" nonsense.

maxsolomon

(36,932 posts)
23. I prefer to win.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:54 PM
Jul 7

I'd rather be "sold out" by a charismatic Dem than have another sociopathic Republican President.

It's Newsom. No E on the end.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,087 posts)
25. Thank you for the correction on his name
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 01:05 PM
Jul 7

I have watched the Dems keep shifting to the middle for so long, that they are in essence Rockerfeller Republicans.

Anyone prepared to throw trans people and immigrants to the wolves for political expediency is NOT someone I want to represent me. But, given the current Dem leadership, you will probably get your wish for him as a nominee. Whether he can win remains to be seen. The party of late has mastered snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

fujiyamasan

(501 posts)
36. Who is your preferred candidate then?
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:43 AM
Jul 8

Newsom has hardly thrown immigrants and trans people under the bus. That’s perhaps the most ridiculous assertion I’ve heard.

And I’m not even in support of him running for president.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,087 posts)
41. Newsom get my vote, reluctantly, if they decide to lose again
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jul 8

Of course, this assumes actual, fair elections, and Trump ceding power. These are far from certainties.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-17/gavin-newsom-lgbtq-pardon-california-crimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/27/us/newsom-budget-immigrant-health.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/lgbtq/5180521-newsom-trans-athletes-womens-sports/

This documents Newsom’s pushing “energy reform” pretty much written by the oil industry.
https://folsomtimes.com/solar-owners-could-face-new-fees-as-cpuc-responds-to-newsom-order/

Also, ANYONE providing a platform to the likes of Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk are not people I am willing support except in extremis. My preferred candidate? Pete Budigieg.

maxsolomon

(36,932 posts)
20. So you'll vote for JD Vance? Musk's candidate? Not vote at all?
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:48 PM
Jul 7

Because Newsom is a "Corporate Dem"? Got it.

"Welcome to DU".

Dulcinea

(8,777 posts)
11. Newsom is testing the waters.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:39 PM
Jul 5

If he can get traction in a solid red state like SC, that bodes well for him.

fujiyamasan

(501 posts)
13. I live in CA. He's not a bad governor.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 06:38 AM
Jul 6

And of course, he’s not as extreme as FOX plays it. He has vetoed some truly stupid stuff by the state legislature too and some mayors haven’t been very cooperative with him as well. He has shown leadership through several crises while dealing with a president who wants to destroy this state. I do like that he’s willing to take on a fight and he doesn’t back down easily.

He’d make a good president, but it’s hard to get past the CA label and he comes off a little too slick. I’d be surprised if he can connect with folks in some of these other states. I just don’t see it.

maxsolomon

(36,932 posts)
21. I look at the rest of the Dem field, and "a little slick" might be just what we need.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jul 7

Who's even close in terms of charisma? Charisma wins.

Diamond_Dog

(37,688 posts)
26. Republicans hate anything to do with California
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jul 7

I doubt he will change any minds. Unless some miracle happens.

maxsolomon

(36,932 posts)
34. Republicans don't vote in Democratic Primaries.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 07:43 PM
Jul 7

African American women in South Carolina do, and they can be decisive in who gets enough momentum to win the nomination. They were in 2000.

fujiyamasan

(501 posts)
37. This is true, especially if the calendar stays the same
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:50 AM
Jul 8

With SC being so early in the process.

He’s smart to try to go there first, but I really gotta wonder how Mr. French laundry will connect at all the state fairs and corn dog eating contests or whatever the fuck pandering goes on (the latter is probably more of a thing at a GOP Primary and probably in Iowa).

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