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Polybius

(20,070 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:33 PM May 17

Mexican Navy ship crashes into New York City's Brooklyn Bridge

Source: BBC News

A huge Mexican Navy training ship has been damaged after crashing into New York City's Brooklyn Bridge during a festive visit to the US.

Footage has emerged showing towering masts of the Cuauhtémoc clipping the bridge as the sailing vessel was passing under the famous structure on Saturday evening.

Parts of the masts reportedly fell on the deck, with US media reporting multiple injuries. New York City's Emergency Management (NYCEM) said it was "responding to an incident", without giving any further details.

The Mexican Navy confirmed that the ship was damaged, saying the incident was being investigated.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c991n8p4pdyo

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Mexican Navy ship crashes into New York City's Brooklyn Bridge (Original Post) Polybius May 17 OP
Countdown till Trump declares this an act of war by Mexico SledDriver May 17 #1
Gawd, I hope trump doesn't declare war on Mexico. Watching on news, tops of the masts broke off. The bridge appears OK. Silent Type May 17 #2
He'll probably settle for having the crew arrested generalbetrayus May 17 #5
No joke. I sure hope we have proper guidelines for handling a ceremonial foreign ship. Silent Type May 17 #9
We don't need no stinking SCantiGOP May 18 #16
Has he even mentioned it yet? Polybius May 19 #38
Rigging is heavy BidenRocks May 17 #3
The ship was damaged? How about the bridge? nt babylonsister May 17 #4
Orange Julius Caesar will increase the tariffs on Mexican goods generalbetrayus May 17 #8
That's exactly what he will do ribrepin May 18 #18
It's still standing. I'm sure there is some damage, but could be minor. It was like the top 1/5th of masts. Silent Type May 17 #11
Initial reports on FB said the GP6971 May 17 #6
Fascinating PJMcK May 17 #7
I believe the ship lost power -- I don't think the skipper intentionally tried to sail under the bridge. LauraInLA May 18 #33
You're correct PJMcK May 18 #36
Looks like the ship lost power Old Testament Libera May 19 #37
Sal is talking about it on What's Going on with Shipping on Youtube. bluedigger May 17 #10
Shocking how the captain didn't estimate the height of the masts.... wolfie001 May 17 #12
I believe the ship lost power or something and the skipper couldn't control it. LauraInLA May 18 #34
Thank you wolfie001 May 18 #35
Scary FelineOverlord May 17 #13
Stuck in reverse RoseTrellis May 18 #24
More video FelineOverlord May 17 #14
Beautiful tall mast ship. So sorry to hear AllyCat May 17 #15
Sorry about the source canetoad May 18 #17
MAGAs: "Remember the Brooklyn Bridge!" C Moon May 18 #19
Yeah, trump is probably still coming in his pants over this. (nt) Paladin May 18 #26
AP: Mexican tall ship strikes Brooklyn Bridge, snapping masts and killing 2 crew members riversedge May 18 #20
Oh no Kali May 18 #31
I hear the ship lost power prior to impact. BidenRocks May 18 #21
🚨 A Mexican Navy training ship, the Cuauhtmoc, built in Spain in 1982, crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge riversedge May 18 #22
Someone dropped the ball... GiqueCee May 18 #23
I trim my trees before I drive under the Brooklyn Bridge. 🙂 Wonder Why May 18 #25
Two dead as Mexican Navy ship crashes into Brooklyn Bridge Eugene May 18 #27
Let's dispel the notion the ship was trying to sail under the bridge. They weren't and wouldn't. Drum May 18 #28
Mexico is like here's payment for your border wall, take that IronLionZion May 18 #29
Sabotage. k_buddy762 May 18 #30
Mexican Navy AzTired64 May 18 #32

SledDriver

(2,122 posts)
1. Countdown till Trump declares this an act of war by Mexico
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:46 PM
May 17

Deliberate attack on US infrastructure or some crap

Silent Type

(9,722 posts)
2. Gawd, I hope trump doesn't declare war on Mexico. Watching on news, tops of the masts broke off. The bridge appears OK.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:48 PM
May 17

SCantiGOP

(14,488 posts)
16. We don't need no stinking
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:00 AM
May 18

Proper Guidelines. Those almost sound like DEI.
(But I do get your point)

Silent Type

(9,722 posts)
11. It's still standing. I'm sure there is some damage, but could be minor. It was like the top 1/5th of masts.
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:10 PM
May 17

They appeared to break relatively easily. I’m sure bridge will need close inspection.

PJMcK

(23,768 posts)
7. Fascinating
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:01 PM
May 17

On more than two dozen occasions I’ve sailed boats up and down the East River where the Brooklyn Bridge is located. It’s a spunky piece of water and it’s not surprising if a ship operator is unaware of the tidal currents that flow upwards of 4 knots (5-6 mph).

What’s also interesting is the clearance beneath ALL bridges are clearly represented on nautical charts. If the masts and/or superstructure of the ship hit the bridge the port captain would have been unaware of the “air draft” necessary to clear the bridge. It’s kind of inexcusable ship handling.

What’s also curious is there are at least six bridges with at least 65-feet of clearance from the Battery to Long Island Sound. If the Mexican vessel exceeded that height it should not have traversed the East River.

To be clear, the so-called East River is not really a river but a tidal estuary. That means that the current changes direction about four times a day as the tides rotate between high and low water. Additionally, an estuary is a deeper area than where the “river” exits to the ocean. The East River is very deep but the New York harbor is much shallower.

It appears the skipper made a huge mistake. I sincerely hope none of the Mexican sailors were injured. The captain is going to have to explain the incident.

ETA: the clearance under the East River bridges is way over 100 feet so the Mexican sailing vessel should have been aware of the necessary dimensions for transiting the river.

LauraInLA

(2,038 posts)
33. I believe the ship lost power -- I don't think the skipper intentionally tried to sail under the bridge.
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:15 PM
May 18

PJMcK

(23,768 posts)
36. You're correct
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:53 PM
May 18

I posted early before more facts were known.

There’s no ay that ship could transit the East River bridges it would have to sail south under the Verrazano Bridge into the Atlantic.

The current grabbed ahold of the vessel and the rest is a disaster. My boat’s mast is only 45’ above the waterline so I don’t face the same problem. Still, that river is tough!

37. Looks like the ship lost power
Mon May 19, 2025, 01:38 AM
May 19

But it was sailing out under the auxiliary diesel - no sails. With a 4-knot tide making, it had no chance. This speaks to basic seamanship - don't depend on your auxiliary engine too much, teach those poor officer cadets how to sail using real sails. Then you would have to wait some hours for the tide to go OUT, and make sure you have something like a favorable breeze behind you. Advanced sailing skills for windjammers are in short supply these days. I'm sure Alan Villiers would have had much less trouble. Or Robert Hilgendorf.

Condolences for those lost or injured.

bluedigger

(17,232 posts)
10. Sal is talking about it on What's Going on with Shipping on Youtube.
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:05 PM
May 17

If it floats, Sal's the guy.

wolfie001

(5,145 posts)
12. Shocking how the captain didn't estimate the height of the masts....
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:23 PM
May 17

.......with the height of the bridge AND account for the tides. Seems so basic.

wolfie001

(5,145 posts)
35. Thank you
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:29 PM
May 18

I just saw the clip then posted. It must have been pulled downriver by the current. "Shoot first and ask questions later"

RoseTrellis

(13 posts)
24. Stuck in reverse
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:11 AM
May 18

At the 51 second mark you can see significant reverse water flow. I’m betting something broke or jammed and it was stuck in reverse and couldn’t be stopped in time.

AllyCat

(17,936 posts)
15. Beautiful tall mast ship. So sorry to hear
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:35 PM
May 17

About the damage and the injuries. Wishing a speedy recovery to all.

riversedge

(75,843 posts)
20. AP: Mexican tall ship strikes Brooklyn Bridge, snapping masts and killing 2 crew members
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:22 AM
May 18




https://apnews.com/article/brooklyn-bridge-collision-mexican-navy-ship-ca335dc85ebfbf981bc38516985461c8


Mexican tall ship strikes Brooklyn Bridge, snapping masts and killing 2 crew members

By RUTH BROWN and KYLE MARIAN VITERBO
Updated 12:41 AM CDT, May 18, 2025

NEW YORK (AP) — A Mexican navy sailing ship on a global goodwill tour struck the Brooklyn Bridge in New York on Saturday, snapping its three masts, killing two crew members and leaving some sailors dangling from harnesses high in the air waiting for help.

A Mexican navy ship hit the Brooklyn Bridge on Saturday during a promotional tour in New York City, the top of its mast brushing the iconic span as it sailed through the East River. (AP Video by Kyle Marian Viterbo)

New York City Mayor Eric Adams said the 142-year-old bridge was spared major damage but at least 19 people aboard the ship needed medical treatment.

Two of the four people who suffered serious injuries later died, Adams announced on social media early Sunday.

The cause of the collision was under investigation.

BidenRocks

(1,544 posts)
21. I hear the ship lost power prior to impact.
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:24 AM
May 18

Sound familiar Baltimore?
No damage to the bridge.
There were fatalities.

riversedge

(75,843 posts)
22. 🚨 A Mexican Navy training ship, the Cuauhtmoc, built in Spain in 1982, crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:27 AM
May 18

🚨BREAKING NEWS:

A Mexican Navy training ship, the Cuauhtémoc, built in Spain in 1982, crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge, carrying 200 people.

Its 150-foot masts collided with the structure, prompting a search and rescue operation in New York City.






GiqueCee

(2,294 posts)
23. Someone dropped the ball...
Sun May 18, 2025, 07:36 AM
May 18

... BIG time by not doing the research that a third-grader would know to do: How tall the masts are – 158 feet – vs. the maximum clearance –135 feet – under the goddam bridge! Wow. Just wow.
Heads will roll, and well they should. Two sailors are dead and nineteen injured because of this gross negligence.

Eugene

(65,251 posts)
27. Two dead as Mexican Navy ship crashes into Brooklyn Bridge
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:37 AM
May 18
Two dead as Mexican Navy ship crashes into Brooklyn Bridge (BBC)

Two people have been killed and at least 19 others injured after a tall Mexican Navy training sailing ship crashed into New York City's Brooklyn Bridge.

Police said the Cuauhtémoc, with 277 people on board, lost power on Saturday as the captain was manoeuvring the vessel, forcing it to head for the bridge abutment on the Brooklyn side.

Footage shows the ship's towering masts clip the bridge as it passed under the structure. Crew members were standing on the masts as they snapped and fell to the deck, authorities said.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c991n8p4pdyo

Drum

(10,333 posts)
28. Let's dispel the notion the ship was trying to sail under the bridge. They weren't and wouldn't.
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:58 AM
May 18

The NYTimes says that they left Pier 17 and were to motor South into N.Y. Harbor “with a stop on the Brooklyn waterfront to refuel before heading onward to Iceland. Instead, at about 8:30 p.m., the Cuauhtémoc was apparently headed in the wrong direction, never intending to sail under the Brooklyn Bridge, said a spokesman for the city’s Office of Emergency Management.”

Information will emerge in the investigation. In the meantime please resist the pulse to scold. These are real sailors, under competent command, and I think it’s more of a mechanical failure than anything. I can’t believe it was a mistake in navigation or anything like that. To a sailor or boater, a huge priority is always to be sure of clearances and to avoid the terrible event of colliding with anything.

I live on Roosevelt Island n NYC, smack in the centerline of the East River, and the waters and tide flows are quite powerful, reversing several times daily. It’s a big challenge for boaters. Will be following this closely!

IronLionZion

(48,992 posts)
29. Mexico is like here's payment for your border wall, take that
Sun May 18, 2025, 11:36 AM
May 18


Trump might respond the same way he did with the red states hit by tornados this week, by golfing.

AzTired64

(18 posts)
32. Mexican Navy
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:39 PM
May 18

Anyone know if the Mexican Navy has an Admirals Mast as opposed to a Captain's Mast?

Someone's military career has come to a crashing(no pun intended) and rather undignified end.

Being Army, what I know about these types of vessels, there are a source of pride for their specific Navies.

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