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BumRushDaShow

(150,874 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:49 AM Yesterday

Clyburn asks town hall crowd to pray the US 'will not allow itself to go the way of Germany in the 1930s'

Source: CNN Politics

Published 10:52 PM EDT, Thu April 17, 2025


CNN — At a town hall in South Carolina, veteran congressman Jim Clyburn emphasized that Democrats are limited in what they can do in the minority in Congress, urging attendees to speak out and vote to help tip the scales and the balance of power.

The friendly crowd peppered long-serving Democratic lawmaker with questions about taxes, Social Security, tariffs and the Constitution – with concerns about how the Trump administration is handling all of those issues and more.

“It’s obvious the Trump administration has no use for the Constitution whatsoever,” one attendee said, asking Clyburn about the Trump administration’s immigration efforts and suggesting he feared US-born citizens could be next. “What can Congress do to put a stop to this nonsense coming out of the White House?”

Clyburn gave a lengthy response, including reading out the 14th Amendment and emphasizing the importance of hosting congressional town halls and speaking to voters across the country. The congressman then asked the crowd to pray that the US “will not allow itself to go the way of Germany in the 1930s.” “All we can do is share with you what we’re doing and ask for your prayers that this country will not allow itself to go the way of Germany in the 1930s when people stood by,” he said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/politics/clyburn-town-hall-1930s-germany/index.html



The congressman then asked the crowd to pray that the US “will not allow itself to go the way of Germany in the 1930s.” “All we can do is share with you what we’re doing and ask for your prayers that this country will not allow itself to go the way of Germany in the 1930s when people stood by,”


Wake up Clyburn, WE ARE ALREADY THERE.

We are living through HOW 1930s Germany happened and people like you are one of the ones who "stood by" while it happened.

I am seriously thinking that sadly, there are many of our elected officials who are so traumatized by what has just occurred in the past 3 months, that they have been reduced to walking zombies, trying to navigate through a morass as if it doesn't exist, and totally unable to actually think or function.
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Clyburn asks town hall crowd to pray the US 'will not allow itself to go the way of Germany in the 1930s' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
I agree, I don't know what has happened to our elected leaders. Irish_Dem Yesterday #1
I think we already have gone the way of 1930s Germany nt doc03 Yesterday #2
Then you don't know the history of the Third Reich. That's Trumps' goal, but he is nowhere near completion at this Martin68 Yesterday #4
I have little faith in the SCOTUS and even less in the military since he has purged those doc03 Yesterday #5
Yes, but until and unless they fold, we are still a democracy. I've visited countries under a totalitarian regime. Martin68 23 hrs ago #6
When under Nixon, Reagan, or W was it ever remotely like this? n/t elocs 19 hrs ago #12
Yes. We never knew it wasn't until they obeyed court orders. If Trump doesn't obey court orders, that will be a test of Martin68 12 hrs ago #17
Nixon, Reagan, and W were nowhere near as bad as Trump. wnylib 15 hrs ago #16
We didn't know at the time until they folded when faced with court orders. if Trump defies the courts, that will be Martin68 12 hrs ago #18
We were not vigilant and became complacent. We thought we were too great of a nation elocs 19 hrs ago #11
We're all praying with you, Representative Clyburn. Even those of us who don't normally pray. Martin68 Yesterday #3
But what if this is the will of God and part of God's plan? elocs 19 hrs ago #13
Unfortunately thoughts and prayers have had no helpful effect thus far, despite the fervent desires of believers. Ford_Prefect 22 hrs ago #7
Yes, it's too late. We were not vigilant and took our freedoms for granted that they would always be here. elocs 19 hrs ago #14
Prayers, really ??? SamKnause 22 hrs ago #8
Cool ... let's just pray away the Nazis UpInArms 21 hrs ago #9
For some, prayer is the beginning of action. For others, it is the end. Intractable 20 hrs ago #10
Yes, it's also cultural for many older black Americans JI7 19 hrs ago #15

Irish_Dem

(68,187 posts)
1. I agree, I don't know what has happened to our elected leaders.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:57 AM
Yesterday

It is a mystery why they are in such denial.
Certainly they know even more about all the bad stuff Trump is doing.

Martin68

(25,449 posts)
4. Then you don't know the history of the Third Reich. That's Trumps' goal, but he is nowhere near completion at this
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:43 AM
Yesterday

point. If the Supreme Court and the military get solidly behind him, then he has succeeded. At this point, we are still a democracy. One proof of that is that DU is still active.

doc03

(37,717 posts)
5. I have little faith in the SCOTUS and even less in the military since he has purged those
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:48 AM
Yesterday

that don't agree with him.

Martin68

(25,449 posts)
6. Yes, but until and unless they fold, we are still a democracy. I've visited countries under a totalitarian regime.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:08 AM
23 hrs ago

I know the difference. You have given up, and the Fat Lady is still waiting in the wings. I know it's discouraging, but I felt similar pangs under Nixon, Reagan and W.

Martin68

(25,449 posts)
17. Yes. We never knew it wasn't until they obeyed court orders. If Trump doesn't obey court orders, that will be a test of
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:50 PM
12 hrs ago

our democracy and our country. Until then, we don't know how far this will go.

Martin68

(25,449 posts)
18. We didn't know at the time until they folded when faced with court orders. if Trump defies the courts, that will be
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:53 PM
12 hrs ago

our supreme test as a country.

elocs

(24,043 posts)
11. We were not vigilant and became complacent. We thought we were too great of a nation
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:24 PM
19 hrs ago

to fall to fascism. That only happens to lesser nations until it doesn't like now.

Martin68

(25,449 posts)
3. We're all praying with you, Representative Clyburn. Even those of us who don't normally pray.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:41 AM
Yesterday

elocs

(24,043 posts)
13. But what if this is the will of God and part of God's plan?
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:33 PM
19 hrs ago

Maybe we are being punished for the sin of National pride, believing we were too great and righteous of a nation to fall to fascism because that only happens to countries not as good as we are. As a result we were not vigilant in watching out for America becoming complacent with the belief that nothing bad like this could ever happen here.

Ford_Prefect

(8,339 posts)
7. Unfortunately thoughts and prayers have had no helpful effect thus far, despite the fervent desires of believers.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:47 AM
22 hrs ago

I am afraid that the time for hopeful prayer is past. January 20, 2025 was too late for prayers. November 5th, 2024 was too late. July 13, 2024 was too late.

He should have been arrested as he stepped off the plane in Miami January 20th, 2020, if not shortly thereafter.

Worrying about US becoming 1930's Germany is too late. We're already there.

ICE Just Paid Palantir Tens of Millions for 'Complete Target Analysis of Known Populations'
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143441857

U.S.-born American citizen under ICE hold in Florida after driving from Georgia
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143442686

The Tipping Point - The Lincoln Project : In this week's Elephant in the Room, Rick Wilson details the constitutional tipping point we find ourselves in as a democratic republic. If Trump and his administration continue to defy court orders, what can be done about this, and who else could they soon target? - 04/18/2025.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132270177

elocs

(24,043 posts)
14. Yes, it's too late. We were not vigilant and took our freedoms for granted that they would always be here.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:45 PM
19 hrs ago

Now that has changed. We suffered as a nation during the Great Depression, but we suffered together as a nation helping on another.
In WWII we lost troops, but our homeland was unscathed unlike most of Europe and Asia whose populations suffered. Now we will learn what that it is like, up-close and personal.
We won't be so proud anymore. Yes, if only we had been vigilant.

SamKnause

(14,192 posts)
8. Prayers, really ???
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:00 PM
22 hrs ago

If praying is your answer to solving the trump cult problem we have already lost.

Praying solves nothing.

Intractable

(972 posts)
10. For some, prayer is the beginning of action. For others, it is the end.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:53 PM
20 hrs ago

Prayer often says, "This is out of my hands. God is responsible."

>> ask for your prayers that this country will not allow itself to go the way of Germany in the 1930s when people stood by

These words say, "This is out of my hands. God is responsible."

I don't accept that.

Clyburn is one of the old guard I'd like to see have a happy retirement -- sooner rather than later.

JI7

(91,773 posts)
15. Yes, it's also cultural for many older black Americans
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:51 PM
19 hrs ago

They led the civil rights movements so obviously they aren't saying just to pray and do nothing else.

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