California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs
Source: Newsweek
California Governor Gavin Newsom said he has directed his administration to "look at new opportunities to expand trade" as he tries to steer his state around President Donald Trump's sprawling import tariffs.
In a post on X, Newsom addressed the U.S.'s global trading partners, writing "California is here and ready to talk."
It comes after a Fox News report revealed that Newsom is directing his state to pursue "strategic" relationships with countries announcing retaliatory tariffs against the U.S., urging them to exclude California-made products from those taxes.
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
Link to tweet

JBTaurus83
(207 posts)how this would work. More power to them though. It is time for a blue state revolt.
reACTIONary
(6,373 posts)... just for show. Other countries can give CA an exception to their tariffs, but what can CA give in return? They can't invalidate Trump's tariffs. States are not allowed to do that.
Furthermore, if an exemption is given to CA, everyone would import though CA and it would become an exception for all of the US. It would basically invalidate their retaliation.
NJCher
(39,575 posts)why shouldn't Newsom?
reACTIONary
(6,373 posts)... by customs enforcement, in federal facilities, by federal employees. They are not going to stop collecting tariffs because CA tells them to.
This is a stunt.
zorbasd
(369 posts)unconstitutional, and thus not bound by law.
Lawlessness is what the Trump fascists thrive on....states can play that game too....
Farmer-Rick
(11,715 posts)There are numerous waivers that can be gotten, some controlled or defined by the states. And evasion tactics are frequently used by importers. Since Trump cut back on fed employees, who exactly is going to be digging through those shipping containers to find out if the cargo doesn't meet the tariff description? Maybe a few get caught.....maybe not.
Now is the time to use common manipulation techniques.
reACTIONary
(6,373 posts).... Why would the federal customs enforcement personnel release impounded goods before the tariffs have been paid?
This is a stunt. Not that stunts can't be useful as a propaganda technique, but in the end it is just a stunt.
reACTIONary
(6,373 posts)NCLA is doing...
This is not, however, something that can be decreed by the executive or legislative organs of a state.
https://nclalegal.org/press_release/ncla-sues-to-stop-trump-admin-from-imposing-emergency-tariffs-that-congress-never-authorized
NCLA is a free market advocacy organization supported by the Kochtopus.
Deminpenn
(16,691 posts)That's interesting, and probably inevitable the rich big businesses would break from Trump.
reACTIONary
(6,373 posts)... one of the few goppers against the tariffs. The Koch bros (not sure if the are both alive) are ideologically libertarians, with a principled commitment to lazier Faire economic principles. With that background they are often surprisingly supportive of civil liberties also.
Deminpenn
(16,691 posts)Charles, 89, is still living. Brother Fred, an art and historic building collector, died in 2020 at age 86. Brother Bill, the youngest at 84, is still living. He was featured on an episode of American Greed being swindled out of a lot of money from a counterfeit wine fraudster. Fred and Bill had a falling out with the other two brothers.
David Koch also sponsored programming on PBS and his charitable foundation, assuming one exists, may still be doing so.
Ponietz
(3,478 posts)reACTIONary
(6,373 posts)... Its a case of expecting someone else to do something they are not going to do.
Other countries are not going to give CA a break. They don't give a shit about CA; we are all Yankees as far as they are concerned.
Federal customs enforcement is not going to stop impounding imports because CA says so.
This is just bluster to get some attention and earned media. A stunt.
hannah
(267 posts)It is an Executive Order and not a law.
EmmaLee E
(220 posts)If other countries don't charge retaliatory tariffs on California goods,
wouldn't California continue to have a vibrant export market compared with the rest of the country?
I think that is the deal Newsom is looking for.
Other states would stagnate while California businesses keep their foreign markets. Bad for Trump.
Am I missing something (s)?
DENVERPOPS
(11,625 posts)have a third of all ports in the U.S. This could get very interesting...............
reACTIONary
(6,373 posts).... CA and their retaliatory tariffs would be ineffective. Why would they do that?
Deminpenn
(16,691 posts)tariff, but he can work a deal where CA products are not subject to retaliatory import tariffs.
State secretaries of state make deals with other countries regularly.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,335 posts)Nothing can be done on imports though. Feds handle those. They won't release shipments from customs until the tariffs are paid on it.
Bayard
(24,648 posts)Calif has two of the largest ports in the country, right?
BComplex
(9,354 posts)I think this is a great idea!
homegirl
(1,688 posts)California is the FOURTH largest economy in the World!
And it sure burns Donald's butt!!!!
really wants California destroyed ASAP...................along with several other BLUE states.............including COLORADO............
mitch96
(15,100 posts)As Nikita Khrushchev said in 1956:
We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within.
It's been almost 70 years And it's happening right now...
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calimary
(85,734 posts)Fourth largest eh?
Still love California, even though we moved several years ago.
Mister Ed
(6,528 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(7,568 posts)Torchlight
(4,455 posts)This could be a very positive step back from the brink.
NNadir
(35,468 posts)Bannon first. Bannon is fond of the Confederacy. That, however, did not work out all that well.
Exp
(234 posts)NCgayguy
(13 posts)Hey, I'm all for it! But it does sound like grandstanding. I've noticed that since Cory Booker stood up against the republican a whole lot of big name dems are making reels and videos and tweets with a lot to say. They should follow Cory example and follow through, Jasmine did. That's only my opinion. Wow, this DU membership is starting to go to my head, I sure hope my mouth doesn't get me in trouble.
AllyCat
(17,740 posts)I dunno. I like hearing what you have to say. We have a lot of good folks here who can use our knowledge of the system to spur the Dems to work for America.
erronis
(18,724 posts)Cory Booker may have given some a goose to get moving.
And, I'm learning that I'm not the only person who sticks foot in mouth and survives.
poli-junkie
(1,241 posts)do a trade workaround, then TSF will militarize said ports
Chemical Bill
(2,732 posts)Just askin'....
byronius
(7,697 posts)Been my home since the eighties when I moved up to join a band.
Its the best state Ive ever lived in.
AllyCat
(17,740 posts)Or is he over that now?
AntiFascist
(13,187 posts)have suppliers move goods to a warehouse in a country with a relatively low tariffs and ship from there. Not sure how this could work well for Mexico and Canada but could work well for China.
Blue Full Moon
(1,975 posts)The states in the south tried to get their own trade agreements. The Constitution says otherwise.
regnaD kciN
(26,910 posts)Doesnt seem as if the administration has any plans to obey it. Maybe we should do the same.
erronis
(18,724 posts)Hekate
(97,040 posts)Instead of people griping about his podcasts (which may or may not have been a good idea on his part) try watching what hes been saying and doing all along. During the misery of Covid, he kept us informed & fought trump. Even before that, he reminded us of where we stood in the world economy, and in a moment of hubris called us a nation-state.
Ironically, it is trump himself who is showing the way in ignoring norms and flouting accepted trade laws and practices. trump may have broken everything already maybe itt time for the Dem gov of the largest state to test that.
Random Boomer
(4,304 posts)It's ironic that Trump is trying to destroy the federal government, which is the base of his power. The more he weakens the Federal bureaucracy, the more incentive there will be for states to go it on their own.
More than one person has predicted that we will eventually fragment into five or six separate regions, and there's nothing like an economic collapse -- or the threat of one -- to hasten that scenario.
erronis
(18,724 posts)Random Boomer
(4,304 posts)Although, to be fair, Putin will probably be dead before the U.S. breaks up. I don't see this happening over the next year, probably not even over the next decade.
Jit423
(1,143 posts)doing this to help his state. At least I don't believe he would have to "shake down" those he wanted to negotiate with. Trump either bullies or extorts the people.
Stuckinthebush
(11,113 posts)There may be no way to do this, but Gavin is smart to say, "There's a way". It's like when Trump says, 'A lot of people tell me I can run for a third term" knowing he can't. He's trolling. If Gavin can do this then great, but even if not he is getting buzz AND chapping Trump's ass. He could get countries to start talking to HIM instead of Trump. That would really piss off Trump.
Love it.
Ping Tung
(1,999 posts)The population west of Bakersfield will be deported to newly annexed Greenland.
The folks in Greenland don't deserve that.
PortTack
(35,467 posts)Saved their arses! Thing is Illinois farmers never think twice about biting the hand that feeds them. They once again voted overwhelmingly for the orange lunatic
mucifer
(25,097 posts)delisen
(6,897 posts)Newsoms last initiative on the bros was not so good.
This one has great potential.