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BumRushDaShow

(150,337 posts)
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:14 AM Friday

Federal workers who were fired then rehired describe uncertainty over jobs, confusing transition: "What a mess"

Source: CBS News

April 3, 2025 / 3:36 PM EDT


It has been three weeks since courts ordered the Trump administration to reinstate thousands of probationary workers it terminated in a flurry of mass cuts across the federal government. Many of the workers — already off-boarded, locked out of their offices and disconnected from emails when the rulings came down — have yet to return to their jobs.

While they wait to learn their fate, many probationary employees appear to have been left in the dark, with some saying they face daily uncertainty made worse by limited and confusing communications about their benefits and positions. Others have found new employment and are moving on from the civil service, after career whiplash under Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency.

"I'm hoping I get my job back, but it doesn't seem that way," said one probationary worker who was fired from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and rehired because of a court mandate.

The employee, who asked not to be named while his job status remained in flux, said he worries for his future and his family's financial stability, as lawsuits that could decide his long-term employment continue to unfold. Originally dismissed in February while approaching the halfway point of a two-year work probation, he received his termination letter on the same day he was scheduled to start paid parental leave for the birth of his second child.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-workers-fired-rehired-job-uncertainty-confusing/

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Federal workers who were fired then rehired describe uncertainty over jobs, confusing transition: "What a mess" (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Friday OP
I want to know how they yank all the access and get it back so quickly Skittles Friday #1
Federal employees were required to have what is called a "PIV" (Personal Identity Verification) card BumRushDaShow Friday #2
I mean access to computers Skittles Friday #3
I had to use my PIV card to access anything on my government laptop BumRushDaShow Friday #4
I sometimes had to use different laptops for different accounts Skittles Friday #5
Yeah for the older laptops we had BumRushDaShow Friday #6
and I NEVER, EVER did personal stuff on ANY of them! Skittles Friday #7
Oh HELLZ to the no. BumRushDaShow Friday #8

BumRushDaShow

(150,337 posts)
2. Federal employees were required to have what is called a "PIV" (Personal Identity Verification) card
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 05:18 AM
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HSPD-12



(something that was put into law after 9/11 with the Homeland Security Act)

Access to buildings and computers is done through a chip on that card (which also includes the employee's biometric info - i.e., finger-prints). The info is in a database so I expect there is a field in there somewhere that can be selected to deactivate/reactivate the card.

I just know when I retired, I handed in my PIV card (and also had a separate building access card) and the Admin guy did whatever it was he does with them.

Skittles

(163,204 posts)
3. I mean access to computers
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 05:47 AM
Friday

Systems. Online, apps, email, etc.

I had a PIV card but I still had to jump through hoops to get into everything....

BumRushDaShow

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4. I had to use my PIV card to access anything on my government laptop
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 06:13 AM
Friday

AND to work remotely to access the VPN.

My agency bought laptops that had built-in card readers so we had to insert the card in order to even boot the thing past the BIOS screen. There was some program that was coded in the BIOS to require that (the laptops were loaded with a special image of the programs that we used to ensure everything was encrypted). I have been retired for 8 years now and that was the case since back around the early 2010s.

Skittles

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5. I sometimes had to use different laptops for different accounts
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:22 PM
Friday

the ones that didn't have a slot, I used an USB attached device

always kills me when I see people depicted working from home and literally they are using just ONE laptop

for mainframe ops I had at least two laptops, four monitors, printer, etc

BumRushDaShow

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6. Yeah for the older laptops we had
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 03:48 PM
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they included a separate USB "card reader" thingy. But they eventually got us newer ones that had the slot built in.

When they bought the laptops, they also came with docks that would plug into our IP desk phones, with all of it run on the network (using RJ45 to a wall jack). At home, we didn't need to haul the dock back and forth (thank goodness).

BumRushDaShow

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8. Oh HELLZ to the no.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 04:01 PM
Friday

That is what I had my handy dandy ipad for!

Plus since I had (and still have) a bunch of machines at home for hobby stuff (including Linux boxen), there was no need. I used to run SETI@Home on about 10 machines at one time in the past (and did some Folding@Home) with a team.

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