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BumRushDaShow

(149,397 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:13 PM Mar 12

Lutnick: Canada becoming US state 'best way' to merge economies

Source: The Hill

03/12/25 5:12 PM ET


Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said Wednesday that Canada becoming a U.S. state is the “best way” to merge the two countries’ economies.

“The best way, the president has said it, the best way to actually merge the economies of Canada and the United States is for Canada to become our 51st state. If they want to merge it, that’s how you make it the 51st state,” Lutnick said on Fox Business Network’s “Varney & Co.”

Lutnick’s comments come amid recent tension between the U.S. and Canada over tariffs. On Tuesday, President Trump said he was going to raise planned steel and aluminum tariffs against Canada due to a surcharge on electricity from the Ontario government.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said later Tuesday that he would not go forward with the surcharge in the wake of an “olive branch” being offered by the U.S., which is a scheduled Thursday meeting with Lutnick.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5191732-commerce-secretary-canada-51st-state/



These oligarchs are out of their minds.
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Lutnick: Canada becoming US state 'best way' to merge economies (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 12 OP
Lutnick is pretending to be stupid to please King DunceOld. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 12 #1
trump and his billionaire buddies (incl Thiel) vapor2 Mar 12 #33
Lutnick is full of crap / is a POS. What's next, to make China the 52nd state since we buy a ton of exports SWBTATTReg Mar 12 #2
. Canada doesn't want to be like the United States? twodogsbarking Mar 12 #3
Why should it? 58Sunliner Mar 12 #26
Canada 🇨🇦 wants to be Canadian VMA131Marine Mar 12 #28
FU...are I deaf? Canada already said no a bizillion times PortTack Mar 12 #4
And we get the Canadian health system and drug prices and the employee benefit systems? LiberalArkie Mar 12 #5
*And* Canada comes in as thirteen states -- 10 provinces and 3 territories . . . Journeyman Mar 12 #8
Hell the German Nazi party is more liberal than the Republicans LiberalArkie Mar 12 #15
Sorry to deflate that balloon. Fake elections Kremlin style... Justice matters. Mar 12 #23
If Canada were to become one state, it would have two senators but more electoral college votes than any other state. Cyn Dean Mar 12 #32
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 13 #46
even 26 new democrats would not be enough to convict Trump lapfog_1 Mar 12 #35
Fuck off, nut job! paleotn Mar 12 #6
We are officially a shit hole country now vapor2 Mar 12 #34
Unqualified fuckstick says what? Basso8vb Mar 12 #7
Asshole. Scrivener7 Mar 12 #9
Howard is in his own private Idaho - the 52nd state of mind Blues Heron Mar 12 #10
Nutlick can fuck himself Traildogbob Mar 12 #11
Although Canada is hosting the G7 meeting they moniss Mar 12 #12
I just want to thank every jerk EllieBC Mar 12 #13
If cancer could become president, this is exactly how it would strategize. Baitball Blogger Mar 12 #14
Canada Says.. Stay the Puck Outta Here! Cha Mar 12 #16
What a coincidence, that's what Pootie says about Ukraine. Buddyzbuddy Mar 12 #17
What part of NO do these MAGAts not understand? flashman13 Mar 12 #18
Every time they talk about Canada as the 51st State... oysterpoint Mar 12 #19
Canada is divided into 10 provinces and three territories. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 12 #20
I have a better idea liberalgunwilltravel Mar 12 #22
I approve that question. Justice matters. Mar 12 #24
Right On Baron2024 Mar 12 #29
Lutnick liberalgunwilltravel Mar 12 #21
"Why don't Canadians like healthcare from UnitedHealthcare?" dalton99a Mar 12 #25
The gaslighting continues..... Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 12 #27
According to Malcolm Nance it's not necessarily gaslighting mdbl Mar 12 #37
Is something cutting off the blood to his brain? 58Sunliner Mar 12 #30
Why would anyone want to merge economies? Think. Again. Mar 12 #31
hmmm.... European Union. mwooldri Mar 13 #43
Yes, with smaller countries already sharing... Think. Again. Mar 13 #45
Plus 2 Democratic Senators and 40-55 Dems in the house. mjvpi Mar 12 #36
We should be so fortunate that Canada would annex us! n/t KY_EnviroGuy Mar 12 #38
The unmitigated gall of these people. Solly Mack Mar 12 #39
Who cares if Canada likes their own country as it is? Safe as Milk Mar 13 #40
Canada should tell Trump that if they become the 51st state, they'll appoint 2 Democratic Senators and 40 Democratic W T F Mar 13 #41
if Lutnick is serious about merging economies... mwooldri Mar 13 #42
I think Nutlick has it backwards. People in the US want to join Canada. Ray Bruns Mar 13 #44

vapor2

(1,943 posts)
33. trump and his billionaire buddies (incl Thiel)
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:36 PM
Mar 12

just want land expansion. Do they think Canada is stupid? Clearly they think we are

SWBTATTReg

(25,033 posts)
2. Lutnick is full of crap / is a POS. What's next, to make China the 52nd state since we buy a ton of exports
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:17 PM
Mar 12

from China?

VMA131Marine

(4,911 posts)
28. Canada 🇨🇦 wants to be Canadian
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:27 PM
Mar 12

The only people making noise about Canada becoming a state or states is Trump and his band of sycophants.

Canadians have a life expectancy of 81 years compared to 77 for the U.S. Why would they want to be more like us?

Journeyman

(15,283 posts)
8. *And* Canada comes in as thirteen states -- 10 provinces and 3 territories . . .
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:31 PM
Mar 12

each with 2 Senators and a couple or more congress critters -- most of them far more liberal than the majority of U.S. states.

Yeah, 26 new liberal senators and a passel of liberal congress critters. Even if there's a few rogue conservatives in the bunch, we'd overwhelm the MAGAts, crush the Republicans, and put an end to the Reichwing loonies.

Hey, if a guys gonna dream, may as well dream big. Not that half-assed wonder Trump envisions.

Justice matters.

(8,155 posts)
23. Sorry to deflate that balloon. Fake elections Kremlin style...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:04 PM
Mar 12

And the techbRoligarchs have more technology at hand to fake them than putler has had since decades.

Cyn Dean

(1 post)
32. If Canada were to become one state, it would have two senators but more electoral college votes than any other state.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:33 PM
Mar 12

With a population of 41 million, it would have more EC votes than California.
It is all academic though. Every politician in Canada has said no.

lapfog_1

(30,722 posts)
35. even 26 new democrats would not be enough to convict Trump
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:38 PM
Mar 12

If we dominate the Senate to 2/3rds majority we could impeach Trump, Vance, and snot Johnson... getting us to President Schumer ( the new President Pro Tempore of the Senate ( currently Gassy ).

So even if we add 13 states and they all elect 2 Senators each... that isn't enough to impeach any of the Repukes in the line of succession. We need 85 Senators to impeach with 126 Senators. We would only have 74.

paleotn

(20,146 posts)
6. Fuck off, nut job!
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:28 PM
Mar 12

Who in their right mind would want to join this "crack house" of a country anyway?

Traildogbob

(10,810 posts)
11. Nutlick can fuck himself
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:34 PM
Mar 12

Canada has no interest in a “Concept” of a health plan that has been on the back burner since 2015.
Is the NRA licking their lips to take a whole nation of deprived gun owners?
Maybe Canada and Mexico can just do a squeeze play from top and bottom and the Majority of Americans that are sick of trump and his cult can just step aside and give directions as both liberate our asses.

moniss

(6,823 posts)
12. Although Canada is hosting the G7 meeting they
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:37 PM
Mar 12

should have told the American contigent, including Rubio, that until further notice they are persona non grata in Canada. When the plane landed they should have been denied being allowed off the plane. Refuel and go home. Tell Crumb The 1st we said "Hi".

EllieBC

(3,427 posts)
13. I just want to thank every jerk
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:45 PM
Mar 12

who “voted their conscience” or didn’t show up at all. Thank you. And by thank you I mean fuck you and I hope you’re suffering.

Baitball Blogger

(49,579 posts)
14. If cancer could become president, this is exactly how it would strategize.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 06:47 PM
Mar 12

President Cancer: The best way my destructive, malignant policies can survive, is if I can gobble up some healthy countries.

Buddyzbuddy

(553 posts)
17. What a coincidence, that's what Pootie says about Ukraine.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:04 PM
Mar 12

And what Hitler said about Europe. And what rapists say to their victims, this would be easier on you if you stop fighting. I apologize to anybody that is triggered by my statement but I want to illustrate the absurdity of Lutnik's statement.
If it's too far, please don't hesitate to let me know and I will remove it from this post. You can do it privately via the DU email if you prefer.

oysterpoint

(6 posts)
19. Every time they talk about Canada as the 51st State...
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:45 PM
Mar 12

...they just harden the Canadians' resolve to NEVER, EVER do business with the U.S. again!

I really think this 51st state talk is trump 2.0's attempt to desensitize the American media-viewing public; I think the plans are more nefarious.
Would not surprise me if the U.S. tried to launch a ground war against Canada, much like Russia did in Ukraine.
It wouldn't work of course, and the U.S. would get its second Civil War on top of it, but trump 2.0 is just stupid and ignorant enough to try it! First, Canada. Then, Greenland. Then, Mexico, down to Panama. The old Technocracy, Inc. map would be complete.

20. Canada is divided into 10 provinces and three territories.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 07:50 PM
Mar 12

Rather than "make Canada the 51st state," let's reframe it as "make the Canadian provinces the 51st through 61st states."

I think Canada would prove to be more liberal overall than either Trump or the GOP wants.

Plus, I don't think Canadians are willing to give up universal healthcare and strict gun laws for what we have to offer.

22. I have a better idea
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:00 PM
Mar 12

Why don't the productive Blue states join the 10 provinces of Canada and let the MAGAts rot in hell.

Justice matters.

(8,155 posts)
24. I approve that question.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:14 PM
Mar 12

Instead of having a demented, traitorous always mad, and ignorant, delusional compulsively lying convict who's above all laws as a current king... and his fake president napoElon... wouldn't that be the self evident good thing to do?

Canada's actual King has no say in internal governance.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
29. Right On
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:28 PM
Mar 12

States Rights and Secession have never looked so good. It would be great to be a part of the Canadian system. I am sorry that democratic America no longer exists. Maybe one day it will be resurrected someday. Honestly, if we have an election in 2026, maybe we could at least take back the Congress. God help us.

mwooldri

(10,597 posts)
43. hmmm.... European Union.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 07:08 AM
Mar 13

Seems to work there.

But the US and Canada aren't close to being equal to merge. The United States would have to change too much to confirm to the norms of a social democratic society.

Think. Again.

(22,156 posts)
45. Yes, with smaller countries already sharing...
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 07:55 AM
Mar 13

...commerce and a lot of other collaborative activities, such as Europe, it works.

But Canada and the U.S. already have mature, dynamic economies that are based upon very disparate assets and goals.

I wouldn't put all my assets into a joint account with my next door neighbor just because they are next door.

mjvpi

(1,613 posts)
36. Plus 2 Democratic Senators and 40-55 Dems in the house.
Wed Mar 12, 2025, 08:42 PM
Mar 12

With DC, Puerto Rico and Greenland, just think about the congressional math. That would be a total of 8 likely Dem Senators and 80 + Dem Congrescritters. We could get soooo much accomplished.

And yes, I do buy lottery tickets, on occasion.

Safe as Milk

(79 posts)
40. Who cares if Canada likes their own country as it is?
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 01:34 AM
Mar 13

Who cares if the Canadian nation tells Trump to fuck off? He deserves it.

W T F

(1,178 posts)
41. Canada should tell Trump that if they become the 51st state, they'll appoint 2 Democratic Senators and 40 Democratic
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 01:40 AM
Mar 13

Representatives, giving Democrats majorities in both houses of Congress.😂😂😂😂😂😂😎😎

mwooldri

(10,597 posts)
42. if Lutnick is serious about merging economies...
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 07:05 AM
Mar 13

... he should apply to join the European Union. Along with Canada.

I'm sure the USA would have to make a whole lot more changes to harmonise its economy and society than what Canada would have to do. For starters.... Universal health care.

The EU, the EFTA countries, the UK, and Canada should join up into a common market... (Basically EU lite)...

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