Donald Trump has now banned UK from sharing any US military intelligence with Ukraine
Source: The Mirror
The US has banned Britain from sharing intelligence from Washington with Ukraine, according to reports. Donald Trump, 78, is said to have made the move as part of the US' alarming withdrawal of support for Volodymyr Zelensky. There are already concerns Ukraine could run out of weapons in as little as two to three months' time following Mr Trump's decision to freeze American military aid to Kyiv.
And now reports claim all UK intelligence agencies and military outlets have received an order expressly forbidding the sharing of US-generated intelligence, previously known as "Rel UKR" - short for Releasable to Ukraine.
It is another huge blow for Mr Zelensky, 47, as the UK and other Western security partners such as Australia and New Zealand have shared such knowledge with Ukraine since the conflict began three years ago. As Russia's onslaught continues, it is feared the ban will further hamper Ukraine's chances to defend itself.
The ban affects the likes of the UK's GCHQ, the spy agencies and intelligence branches of the Ministry of Defence. Phil Ingram, a UK military intelligence expert, told the Daily Mail: "The United States's instruction to stop allies sharing US-derived intelligence with Ukraine is what I would expect. The US's intelligence partners, including Britain, have had their authority to pass on intelligence revoked. The US will tightly control distribution of its intelligence to Ukraine through agencies based in Kyiv."
Read more: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-now-banned-uk-34797081

Lovie777
(18,000 posts)ugh.
If anything happens abroad and at home harming USA citizens the fault falls directly on the Republican party.
Lonestarblue
(12,549 posts)Ukraine will not be able to trust any US intelligence now because it will be misleading and aimed at helping Russia and harming Ukraine. If European leaders want to protect Ukraine, they should seriously consider bringing it into NATO now.
Bernardo de La Paz
(54,741 posts)Joinfortmill
(17,844 posts)Raven123
(6,587 posts)LymphocyteLover
(7,798 posts)Cha
(309,685 posts)Doing Anything?!
TY
SupportSanity
(1,356 posts)Ukraine had been using US based intelligence to track Russian troop movements.
This means Russian will start stepping up its attacks and sending in more troops.
Awful!!!
SorellaLaBefana
(330 posts)since by doing so there seems a high probability that it is being shared with Russia
yardwork
(66,196 posts)If they are, it's likely fake.
sinkingfeeling
(55,052 posts)Emrys
(8,572 posts)Since Trump is a compromised channel and has a lackadaisical attitude to intelligence security, to say the least, we shouldn't be sharing Five Eyes data with the US now anyway.
Unfortunately, Starmer is likely to be lily-livered in his response.
If recent events are any guide, the situation's probably changing too fast to track, but this was Sky News' Security and Defence Editor on Twitter a few minutes ago:
@haynesdeborah
BREAKING: The US has stopped sharing intelligence with Ukraine that could be used to launch attacks inside Russia, a Ukrainian source has told Sky News.
But the source said that American intelligence-sharing has not halted completely.
The source described the move as selective, indicating that this meant US intelligence would still be shared with Ukraine that could be used to attack Russian forces on Russian-occupied Ukrainian territory.
Asked whether it is correct that the US has stopped sharing intelligence, the source said: Unfortunately, yes, but not completely. It is selective. On the possibility of damage on the territory of the Russian Federation
The move is another blow for Kyiv after Donald Trump decided to pause all military aid to Ukraine following a bust-up with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the White House.
lark
(24,879 posts)They should do the tsfs thing - agree to his face while having no plans whatsoever to stop sharing information! England should know it's intel isn't safe in his hands and shoud likewise use any intelligence they gain for the best purposes, regardless of Hair Himmler.
Raftergirl
(1,659 posts)4catsmom
(633 posts)Trump wouldn't follow that rule if you gave it to him
orleans
(35,902 posts)Safe as Milk
(94 posts)If they stand with their EU/NATO neighbors, they ignore the turncoat Trump and share intel with Kyiv. If they stand with Trump, they have to abandon Europe and endanger encroachment by Putin in just a few years. If they use logic and value self-preservation, they stay with Europe.
BrianTheEVGuy
(697 posts)No more defensive intelligence for Ukraine, but Im sure folks in the administration are passing along everything to the Kremlin.
IronLionZion
(48,488 posts)if he hasn't already. He probably has
mdbl
(6,188 posts)IronLionZion
(48,488 posts)or something like that
mdbl
(6,188 posts)
Botany
(73,843 posts)Sod off you wanker.
I am sure that the Euro intelligence community can band together and work to
get the needed intelligence to the Ukrainian forces and they can put up spy satellites
too if they dont have them up already. This threat is every bit as big as the free
world faced in WW II.
Which side are you on boy, which side are you on?
AmericaUnderSiege
(777 posts)Absolutely everyone.
defacto7
(14,044 posts)Grokenstein
(5,955 posts)Is there a soon-to-be-former ally the madman hasn't threatened yet? I guess Japan...
dchill
(42,009 posts)DemMedic
(400 posts)Seems unreasonable, to say the very least that we can dictate how any other government uses intelligence, even if we supply it.
And isn't our intelligence already being ran by a Russian asset?
patphil
(7,676 posts)We, as a nation, will suffer economically, politically and militarily. Who's going to want to do business with us on any level.
He's putting us exactly where Putin wants us; completely dependent on him as our primary ally. The goal is to make the US a vassal state of Russia.
Botany
(73,843 posts)EarthFirst
(3,618 posts)Our word isnt worth the paper its printed on nor the ink with which its signed.
sinkingfeeling
(55,052 posts)others can provide Ukraine with their intelligence and keep it from the US.
bluestarone
(19,577 posts)Thanks!
LiberalArkie
(17,948 posts)Wednesdays
(20,480 posts)Any intel coming from tRump's intelligence apparatus would be (for Ukraine) unreliable at best, and dangerous at worst.
Danascot
(5,009 posts)to DOD, CIA, FBI, Homeland, etc. US intelligence operatives wouldn't be able to determine it's raining if they were soaking wet from rain. The major qualification is loyalty, not ability.
TommieMommy
(1,819 posts)mdbl
(6,188 posts)republianmushroom
(19,488 posts)Screw you convicted felon, I support Zelensky a real leader.
Jakes Progress
(11,210 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,614 posts)it anyway. It isnt as if P*$$Y-Grabber would refuse to pass information to Russia .
North Coast Lawyer
(81 posts)How much more do people need? The fact that Trump is a Russian stooge has become apparent to all but the most willfully blind.
The UK, Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, ... all other countries of good will ... have to immediately do everything in their power to stop Trump NOW!
ananda
(31,517 posts)Sheesh
cstanleytech
(27,538 posts)Only things I can think of are either Trump or somebody in his family having sex with an underage person or Trump or somebody in his family being involved in a murder.
Edit: Or Trump or somebody in Trump's family involved in raping somebody.
LudwigPastorius
(12,197 posts)Putin's ass monkey
Grokenstein
(5,955 posts)to sell to whomever's willing to pay for it.
Grins
(8,234 posts)Every one of those nations have their own intelligence services. They will return the favor. And Americas intelligence services will go blind.
milestogo
(20,276 posts)BidenRocks
(1,322 posts)Chump is impeached for high crimes.
Hegseth also for openly threatening war with China for not kissing our ass.
No more national anthem or pledge of allegiance
It's anarchy time! The laws do not apply if the crime is big enough. The word for a while is dystopia.
tonekat
(2,201 posts)Screw trump, UK should do it anyway. After all, trump is a criminal, and illegitimate.
Kid Berwyn
(19,970 posts)moonshinegnomie
(3,307 posts)Dont bother making any statement. Just keep sharing the data
MissouriDem47
(140 posts)Trump was banned from sharing Intelligence with Russia but he did anyway. The say thing is, he got away with it.