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mahatmakanejeeves

(64,325 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:17 PM Mar 4

RFK Jr.'s focus on vitamin A for measles worries health experts

Source: Washington Post

RFK Jr.’s focus on vitamin A for measles worries health experts
The measles outbreak in Texas has sparked debate over the use of vitamin A, with some health experts warning it may not be effective.

March 4, 2025 at 6:00 a.m. EST


Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is seen last month at President Donald Trump’s first Cabinet meeting of his new term. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

By Lena H. Sun and Fenit Nirappil

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s focus on vitamin A use to combat a growing measles outbreak in Texas is raising concerns among public health experts, who fear he is sending the wrong message about preventing the highly contagious disease and distracting from the critical importance of vaccination. ... Kennedy, who in his years as an anti-vaccine activist criticized measles shots and boosted vitamin A as a treatment, is now using his government position to tout the vitamin’s accepted benefits. The Department of Health and Human Services has directed the nation’s top public health agency to add similar language to its guidance for caring for measles patients.

“It is also our responsibility to provide up-to-date guidance on available therapeutic medications. While there is no approved antiviral for those who may be infected, CDC has recently updated their recommendation supporting administration of vitamin A under the supervision of a physician for those with mild, moderate, and severe infection,” he wrote in an opinion piece that appeared on foxnews.com on Sunday night. “Studies have found that vitamin A can dramatically reduce measles mortality.” (1) ... His op-ed does not mention vitamin A’s risks.

Experts acknowledge that vitamin A can be beneficial after someone has gotten sick, but they say it is not a replacement for vaccination to prevent measles. Vitamin A is considered supportive care and typically used in countries where children are malnourished and have vitamin A deficiency. ... Anti-vaccine activists have long touted vitamin A as an alternative to immunization, concerning public health experts and doctors, who worry that Kennedy’s public statements will legitimize that view. ... “In fact, relying on vitamin A instead of the vaccine is not only dangerous and ineffective, but it puts children at serious risk,” Sue Kressly, president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, said in a statement Monday. “Taking too much vitamin A can cause serious health problems, including liver damage.”

{snip}

Ben Edwards, a doctor in Lubbock who treats patients skeptical of modern medicine, said on a recent podcast episode that people will weather measles if they are good stewards of their immune system with nutrient-rich produce. He has expressed concerns about the side effects of measles vaccinations and said natural immunity is preferable, a view being cited by vaccine skeptics that is considered fringe by medical organizations. In an interview with The Washington Post, Edwards highlighted the studies showing a significant drop in measles deaths in malnourished children who take vitamin A. ... “That’s the kind of thing I want to educate my patients: ‘Hey, you’re not severely malnourished. You’ve got an immune system,’” Edwards said. “Now you need to be feeding it real food. You need to nourish it, steward it, get some sunshine, get some good oxygen.”

Caitlin Gilbert and Elana Gordon contributed to this report.

(1) https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/robert-f-kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-call-action-all-us

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/03/04/measles-outbreak-vitamin-a-concerns/



The story is at The Guardian too.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/04/rfk-jr-vitamins-measles-outbreak

RFK Jr sparks alarm after backing vitamins to treat measles amid outbreak
Health experts wary as US health secretary fails to endorse effective vaccines and instead calls them a ‘personal choice’

Jessica Glenza
Tue 4 Mar 2025 12.14 EST

Robert F Kennedy Jr, the US health secretary, has caused alarm among pediatricians, vaccine experts and lawmakers with an opinion piece that focuses on vitamin A and nutrition as treatments for measles. ... In response to a measles outbreak in Texas, which resulted in the first American measles death in nearly a decade, Kennedy wrote for Fox News about the benefits of “good nutrition” and vitamin A – but did not explicitly recommend highly effective vaccines.

“In fact, relying on vitamin A instead of the vaccine is not only dangerous and ineffective, but it puts children at serious risk,” Dr Sue Kressly, the president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, told the Washington Post.

Measles is one of the most infectious diseases in the world. Infections kill one to three people for every 1,000 infected and can cause severe brain swelling, called encephalitis, in one in 1,000 cases. The disease also causes general misery, including a characteristic top-down rash, fever, runny nose, and red and watery eyes. The measles vaccine is 97% effective at preventing the disease.

At least 146 people have been sickened in Texas, primarily in unvaccinated communities in the South Plains region. More than 20 people have been hospitalized, and an unvaccinated school-aged child died – the first American measles death since April 2015.

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RFK Jr.'s focus on vitamin A for measles worries health experts (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 4 OP
"May" not be effective? Really WaPo. Vit A most definitely is not effective to prevent/treat measles. SunSeeker Mar 4 #1
This is the new kinder/gentler/muzzled Washington Post OKIsItJustMe Mar 4 #3
Since bozo gave them all a new prime directive Javaman Mar 4 #46
Oh, good God! OKIsItJustMe Mar 4 #2
The vitamin industry is not regulated. littlemissmartypants Mar 4 #4
The supplement industry is the wildwest with no sheriffs past civil suits. marble falls Mar 4 #18
Gosh what if someone gets autism from vitamins?? N/t forgotmylogin Mar 4 #42
RFK Jr is an antivaxxer with a lot of nutty ideas. ShazzieB Mar 5 #54
Wtf? 📣get vaxed, people! SheltieLover Mar 4 #5
What controlled studies is he basing his conclusions on???? Karadeniz Mar 4 #6
The seminal study is, "Everybody Knows Vitamin A is Great," LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 5 #60
Lol !!! Karadeniz Mar 5 #61
I'll say it until he keels over: It's the worm talking wolfie001 Mar 4 #7
Vitamin A in Children Hospitalized for Measles in a High-income Country OKIsItJustMe Mar 4 #8
No, of course not. The studies were in malnourished/vit A deficient children in Africa and elsewhere... hlthe2b Mar 4 #11
Juice organic carrots. surrealistic pillows Mar 4 #9
Whole or shredded carrots? GP6971 Mar 4 #14
Whole. surrealistic pillows Mar 4 #15
Once any vegetable... littlemissmartypants Mar 4 #44
I was toying with them... GP6971 Mar 4 #45
And vitamin A is still poison in even a surprisingly small dose - one you'd never get from carrots 'cause you can't ... marble falls Mar 4 #17
Yup. Cue cases of well-intentioned people overdosing their kids and/or themselves (my bold): Emrys Mar 4 #23
Yep. Learned this when my mother started taking a lot of Vitamin A in her 80s. tanyev Mar 4 #33
That's horrible, glad you caught it before it did more harm. Emrys Mar 4 #34
Which is why I mentioned carrots. surrealistic pillows Mar 4 #25
Eat all the carrots you want. ShazzieB Mar 4 #26
Why not? surrealistic pillows Mar 4 #30
Because...that's not what they do? ShazzieB Mar 4 #31
What is "they?" surrealistic pillows Mar 4 #32
Carrots were the topic of that reply. ShazzieB Mar 4 #39
A very worthwhile post, but the carrot-munching troll you're replying to Emrys Mar 5 #48
Ahh, I see! ShazzieB Mar 5 #49
We should be able to recognize it Emrys Mar 5 #56
🤣 ShazzieB Mar 5 #59
And I was learning so much!!!! hatrack Mar 5 #53
People Are Distrustful Of The Medical Establishment OhioTim Mar 5 #52
Sorry, but the man, Bob, is telling us what is good for you... sheshe2 Mar 4 #29
Excellent informative post, mf. sheshe2 Mar 4 #28
I think you overdosed on Vitamin A. Are you enjoying all your removed posts? GP6971 Mar 4 #36
HERE is the truth about Vit A and Measles in the SEVERELY malnourished/vit a deficient in Africa/elswhere... hlthe2b Mar 4 #10
The less he knows the more of an expert he claims to be, you know, just like Mango Jebus and fElon Musk. marble falls Mar 4 #22
Good grief. We're becoming the US of Pseudoscience NewHendoLib Mar 4 #12
I guess measles has to kill a few more children in Texas... Paladin Mar 4 #13
As long as not too many victims of them are white., no problems marble falls Mar 4 #20
Charlatans and grifters see a way to make money in an unregulated economy bucolic_frolic Mar 4 #16
Regulations and regulators: who needs 'em, amirite? marble falls Mar 4 #19
Kennedy thinks he's been given license to try out his "theories" on the American public. He's his own researcher. Sogo Mar 4 #21
Does RFK Jr also believe that carrots improve your eyesight? Greybnk48 Mar 4 #24
Works only in Texas just like drinking bleach did for Covid. Wonder Why Mar 4 #27
RFK Jr. public service announcement brought to you ny WORM Ad Dynamics... cayugafalls Mar 4 #35
Responsible doctors on all social media platforms MontanaMama Mar 4 #37
What's Gargles The Clown's stance on injecting bleach? Montauk6 Mar 4 #38
Lets be fair..and tell the whole story.. Playingmantis Mar 4 #40
You know these fucking assholes give the worst answer to everything. Initech Mar 4 #41
Yes, we should all follow medical advice from a heroin addict with no medical training PSPS Mar 4 #43
About as effective as thoughts and prayers IronLionZion Mar 5 #47
This fucking guy works for the kind of people who killed his dad. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 5 #50
Entirely predictable consequence: a bunch of dumb dickweeds will be giving themselves RockRaven Mar 5 #51
It is easy to take too much vitamin A. AllyCat Mar 5 #55
JFC! sdfernando Mar 5 #57
Vitamins take you only so far bmichaelh Mar 5 #58

SunSeeker

(55,464 posts)
1. "May" not be effective? Really WaPo. Vit A most definitely is not effective to prevent/treat measles.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:20 PM
Mar 4

OKIsItJustMe

(21,210 posts)
3. This is the new kinder/gentler/muzzled Washington Post
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:23 PM
Mar 4

I cancelled my subscription after Bezos cancelled the Harris endorsement.

Javaman

(63,605 posts)
46. Since bozo gave them all a new prime directive
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 11:53 PM
Mar 4

This is all they got.

They are now the dipsy neighbor in a bad 60’s sitcom

littlemissmartypants

(27,183 posts)
4. The vitamin industry is not regulated.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:28 PM
Mar 4

Vitamin A in this case is a euphemism for JFK, JR aka Vitamin Assh*le.

60. The seminal study is, "Everybody Knows Vitamin A is Great,"
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 08:19 PM
Mar 5

published in It's Just Common Sense Journal. There's also "I've Done My Research," "I Saw It on Television," and "I've Got a Friend Who Told Me," all found in the same publication.

Don't forget the children's book, "I've Got a Worm in My Brain."

OKIsItJustMe

(21,210 posts)
8. Vitamin A in Children Hospitalized for Measles in a High-income Country
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:37 PM
Mar 4
https://doi.org/10.1097/INF.0000000000003156
Vitamin A in Children Hospitalized for Measles in a High-income Country
Lo Vecchio, Andrea MD, PhD*; Cambriglia, Maria Donata MD*; Bruzzese, Dario PhD†; Guarino, Alfredo MD*

The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal 40(8):p 723-729, August 2021. | DOI: 10.1097/INF.0000000000003156

Abstract
Background:
Worldwide medical authorities recommend vitamin A supplementation for severe measles requiring hospitalization; however, evidence supporting its use in high-income countries is lacking. A nationwide vitamin A shortage reported in concomitance with a recent measles outbreak in Italy provided an opportunity to test the effectiveness of vitamin A in a high-income setting, approximating an unbiased allocation.

Methods:
We conducted a prospective controlled cohort study involving children admitted for measles to a tertiary-care hospital in Southern Italy. The primary outcome was the duration of fever. Secondary outcomes included the length of hospitalization, rate of complications, need for antibiotic treatment and body temperature.

Results:
A total of 108 inpatient children (36% female, median age 16.3 months) were enrolled; 36 received 2 doses of oil-based vitamin A according to age, and 72 matched controls received standard care. There were no significant differences between the study groups in the duration of fever (7.03 ± 2.67 vs. 6.82 ± 3.27, P = 0.72), length of hospitalization (median, 5.0 vs. 5.0 days, P = 0.50), maximum body temperature (median, 39°C in both groups, P = 0.23), rate of organ (69.4% vs. 63.9%, P = 0.72) and hematologic complications (41.7% vs. 59.7%, P = 0.12), or need for antibiotic treatment (66.7% vs. 61.1%, P = 0.72). Overall, vitamin A supplementation did not reduce the risk of any complications (relative risk, 1.33; 95% confidence intervals: 0.59–2.96).

Conclusion:
Vitamin A does not change the clinical course of measles infection or the rate of complications in children hospitalized in a high-income country.

hlthe2b

(109,150 posts)
11. No, of course not. The studies were in malnourished/vit A deficient children in Africa and elsewhere...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:43 PM
Mar 4

See my post downstream. The moron has extrapolated a valid finding from nearly starving populations to the industrialized world which is a night and day comparison. Supplementing vitamin A in starving children is necessary to improve chance of survival with measles, but it is neither a primary treatment NOR PREVENTATIVE. Only vaccine can provide that. But, CDC/WHO/USAID has long provided Vit A supplementation ALONG WITH measles vaccine in these children of Africa and other poorer countries.

 
9. Juice organic carrots.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:38 PM
Mar 4

An overdose of Vitamin A? Is this a clear and present danger?! But seriously, when you juice you get enzymes too. A bag of organic carrots (1 lb.) costs .99 at Trader Joe's. It yields approximately 8 oz. 🥳

marble falls

(64,714 posts)
17. And vitamin A is still poison in even a surprisingly small dose - one you'd never get from carrots 'cause you can't ...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 04:24 PM
Mar 4

... eat enough physically to get sick or produce the allegedly "therapeutic" effect RFK Jr claims will fix.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/vitamin-a-toxicity

it'll kill your ass.


The recommended daily allowance (RDA) for men is 900 MCG REA, or 3,000 international units (IU). For women the RDA is 700 mcg RAE, or 2,330 (IU). For all adults, the Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) — the most vitamin A one can take without experiencing negative health effects — is 3,000 mcg RAE, or 10,000 IU.


https://www.aarp.org/health/drugs-supplements/info-2024/vitamin-overdose.html

it'll kill your ass unitentionally

1. Vitamin A

Vitamin A is important for vision, the immune system, cell division and more. Most people get sufficient vitamin A, also known as retinol, through diet. According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), women should consume 700 micrograms of retinol activity equivalents (RAE) per day and men should have 900 mcg RAE.

An excess of vitamin A is absorbed in the body and can build toxicity in the liver. Acute toxicity, called hypervitaminosis A, occurs when a person repeatedly takes a higher dose, more than 4,000 international units (IU) daily over months, which is more than 100 times the recommended dietary allowance, according to the NIH.

“You can have some acute symptoms like nausea, vomiting, vertigo, blurry vision,” Farrell says. Other symptoms typically include severe headache, aching muscles and coordination problems. In severe cases, too much vitamin A can cause an increase in cerebral spinal fluid pressure, leading to drowsiness and, eventually, coma and even death.

If you have a preexisting liver condition, excess vitamin A is concerning. “It can hurt your liver if you already have liver problems,” Haggerty says.

Recommended daily amount*

700 mcg for women
900 mcg for men


Emrys

(8,572 posts)
23. Yup. Cue cases of well-intentioned people overdosing their kids and/or themselves (my bold):
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 04:51 PM
Mar 4
Taking too many supplements is the most common cause of vitamin A toxicity. It tends not to occur just from eating vitamin A-rich foods.

Too much vitamin A can make you sick. Taking large doses during pregnancy can cause birth defects.

* Acute vitamin A poisoning occurs quickly. It can happen when an adult takes several hundred thousand international units (IUs) of vitamin A.

* Chronic vitamin A poisoning may occur over time in adults who regularly take more than 25,000 IUs a day.

* Babies and children are more sensitive to vitamin A. They can become sick after taking smaller doses of it. Swallowing products that contain vitamin A, such as skin cream with retinol in it, can also cause vitamin A poisoning.
...
Symptoms

Symptoms may include:

* Abnormal softening of the skull bone (in infants and children)
* Blurred vision
* Bone pain or swelling
* Bulging of the soft spot in an infant's skull (fontanelle)
* Changes in alertness or consciousness
* Decreased appetite
* Dizziness
* Double vision (in young children)
* Drowsiness
* Hair changes, such as hair loss and oily hair
* Headache
* Irritability
* Liver damage
* Nausea and vomiting
* Poor weight gain (in infants and children)
* Skin changes, such as cracking at corners of the mouth, higher sensitivity to sunlight, oily skin, peeling, itching, and yellow color to the skin
* Vision changes

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/000350.htm

tanyev

(46,093 posts)
33. Yep. Learned this when my mother started taking a lot of Vitamin A in her 80s.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 06:37 PM
Mar 4

She asked a home health care worker (who was not a doctor and not a nurse, just someone that came in to help with physical therapy) about something else that was bothering her and they said, “Oh, you should try 10,000 IU of Vitamin A every day.”

I did not find out about this until the next time I visited and she was having some hair loss. She was beside herself, didn’t know why her hair was falling out. She listed everything she was taking and I got on the internet and when I looked up the Vitamin A, I told her to STOP it immediately. She did, and slowly more hair grew back in, but it never got back to where it had been.

Emrys

(8,572 posts)
34. That's horrible, glad you caught it before it did more harm.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 07:04 PM
Mar 4

I imagine the care worker thought they were helping, but they had no business giving that advice. Just because you don't need a prescription doesn't make supplements and herbal remedies necessarily safe.

 
25. Which is why I mentioned carrots.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 05:22 PM
Mar 4

Vitamin A is fat-soluble and beta carotene is water-soluble. I prefer to let food be my medicine vs. dead, isolated vitamins and minerals.

 
32. What is "they?"
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 06:21 PM
Mar 4


Just for shits and giggles, I looked up preventing measles with diet. And right away it said Vitamin A-rich foods like carrots, sweet potatoes and spinach. If someone said how do we prevent colds, it wouldn't be outrageous to mention oranges and grapefruit and so I cannot understand why the measles are any different. It's not a disease; it's an illness that typically clears up in a week to 10 days. 🥳

ShazzieB

(20,218 posts)
39. Carrots were the topic of that reply.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:33 PM
Mar 4

I never said vitamins or vegetables aren't good for people. I just don't think they are a magic cure for anything (except in certain extreme cases like scurvy or pellagra that have been proven to be caused by a severe vitamin deficiency).

I know it's fashionable in some circles to be distrustful of the medical establishment, but I know too much about science to dismiss the amazing strides medicine has made in my lifetime. Including, but not limited to, vaccines for diseases like flu, polio, and measles.

Btw, the definition of disease is "an impairment of the normal state of the living animal or plant body or one of its parts that interrupts or modifies the performance of the vital functions, is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms, and is a response to environmental factors (as malnutrition, industrial hazards, or climate), to specific infective agents (as worms, bacteria, or viruses), to inherent defects of the organism (as genetic anomalies), or to combinations of these factors : sickness, illness" (Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disease#medicalDictionary)

Measles is very definitely a disease, an infectious disease, caused by a virus; its cause, symptoms, signs, etc. are very well-known. It's often pretty mild but is known to lead to serious, even life-threatening complications in some cases. Taking one's chances with it (or any other infectious disease) seems kind of silly to me when there's a safe and widely available vaccine.

I didn't have a choice when it came to measles, because the measles vaccine did not exist when I was a child. Luckily for me, when I caught measles at the age of 7, I had a mild case. Not everyone is that lucky.

Emrys

(8,572 posts)
48. A very worthwhile post, but the carrot-munching troll you're replying to
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 02:22 AM
Mar 5

has been PPR'd when they unmasked and went apeshit on another thread.

ShazzieB

(20,218 posts)
49. Ahh, I see!
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 04:08 AM
Mar 5

I'm pretty sure I know who it was. There's a particular repeat troll who is stongly antivaxx.

Emrys

(8,572 posts)
56. We should be able to recognize it
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 08:36 AM
Mar 5

by its fluffy tail, pronounced overbite and abnormally long ears.

OhioTim

(333 posts)
52. People Are Distrustful Of The Medical Establishment
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 05:59 AM
Mar 5

until they need it. Example: Donald Trump when he got Covid and was rushed to the best hospital where he was given cutting edge treatment not available to the masses.

sheshe2

(91,353 posts)
29. Sorry, but the man, Bob, is telling us what is good for you...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 06:03 PM
Mar 4

picks up road kill and puts it in his freezer. I for one will pass on his 'advice' as we all should.

Street food: Robert F Kennedy Jr boasts of ‘a freezer full of roadkill’
Robert F Kennedy Jr, recently outed for dumping a dead bear carcass in Central Park a decade ago having intended to skin it and freeze it, told reporters on Wednesday that he had been “picking up roadkill my whole life. I have a freezer full of it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/08/rfk-jr-roadkill-freezer

hlthe2b

(109,150 posts)
10. HERE is the truth about Vit A and Measles in the SEVERELY malnourished/vit a deficient in Africa/elswhere...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:40 PM
Mar 4

--as I HAVE dealt with this overseas. It IS TRUE that there is a poorer prognosis for measles recovery if you do not ADDITIONALLY supplement vitamin A IN THOSE SPECIFIC POPULATIONS. That is well known to those who have worked in these areas. BUT... IT IS NOT A CURE OR PREVENTION FOR MEASLES.

RFK Jr.'s lack of knowledge is only exceeded by his dramatic arrogance and assumption that he understands what he barely skimmed in terms of "lay person reporting" or certainly anything that approaches peer-reviewed literature.

He clearly heard something about what I just wrote and has once again shown what a moron he is and how damned dangerous to the rest of the world.

marble falls

(64,714 posts)
22. The less he knows the more of an expert he claims to be, you know, just like Mango Jebus and fElon Musk.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 04:30 PM
Mar 4

Paladin

(30,148 posts)
13. I guess measles has to kill a few more children in Texas...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 03:53 PM
Mar 4

...before there's even a remote possibility of RFK jr. pulling his head out of his ass.

A century from now, people will still be astonished that our nation's healthcare was entrusted to this dangerously disturbed individual.

bucolic_frolic

(49,812 posts)
16. Charlatans and grifters see a way to make money in an unregulated economy
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 04:05 PM
Mar 4

That's what's going on here. Consequences to anyone and anything be damned.

Sogo

(6,195 posts)
21. Kennedy thinks he's been given license to try out his "theories" on the American public. He's his own researcher.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 04:29 PM
Mar 4

nt.

Greybnk48

(10,517 posts)
24. Does RFK Jr also believe that carrots improve your eyesight?
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 05:19 PM
Mar 4

I wonder how many American kids RFK Jr. will kill before he's fired?

cayugafalls

(5,790 posts)
35. RFK Jr. public service announcement brought to you ny WORM Ad Dynamics...
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 07:05 PM
Mar 4

We eat brains until they comply so you don't have to...

WORM Ad Dynamics now a proud sponsor of The Syphilis Presidential Library

i don't need the tag. right?

MontanaMama

(24,373 posts)
37. Responsible doctors on all social media platforms
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:18 PM
Mar 4

are denouncing this nonsense. I am grateful for them doing it.

Playingmantis

(387 posts)
40. Lets be fair..and tell the whole story..
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 09:58 PM
Mar 4

He also said that Vitamin A should be taken with a shot of goats blood warmed over a fire made of dead bats...

So there!

Initech

(104,500 posts)
41. You know these fucking assholes give the worst answer to everything.
Tue Mar 4, 2025, 10:08 PM
Mar 4

Not surprised RFK Jr is doing something shitty.

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
50. This fucking guy works for the kind of people who killed his dad.
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 04:27 AM
Mar 5

Sickening, both literally and figuratively.

RockRaven

(17,136 posts)
51. Entirely predictable consequence: a bunch of dumb dickweeds will be giving themselves
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 04:39 AM
Mar 5

Vitamin A toxicity/poisoning.

Oh what a good use of our modern medicine resources.

AllyCat

(17,800 posts)
55. It is easy to take too much vitamin A.
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 08:21 AM
Mar 5

Vitamin A toxicity kills. It’s not like other vitamins. The water-soluble vitamins and vitamin D can be balanced by the body to some degree. Vitamin A cannot easily be balanced.

This is completely dangerous.

sdfernando

(5,663 posts)
57. JFC!
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 01:27 PM
Mar 5

You can bet that this will cause some really stupid people to take mega doses of vitamin A. Vitamin A at high doses is TOXIC!!!

Here are the symptoms:
Nausea and vomiting, Diarrhea, Headache, Fatigue, Skin irritation, Hair loss, Bone pain, Joint pain, Blurred vision, and Liver damage.
Chronic Effects:
Osteoporosis (weakening of bones), Fractures, Birth defects in pregnant women, and Increased risk of certain cancers.

bmichaelh

(776 posts)
58. Vitamins take you only so far
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 02:56 PM
Mar 5

Vitamins take you only so far.

I know this from personal experience. I take vitamins daily.

Around Thanksgiving 2022, I was diagnosed with COVID pneumonia.
My oxygen levels were in the 80s.

Only remdesivir cured me.
My MAGA family tried to brow-beat me in not taking the drug.

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