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BumRushDaShow

(150,874 posts)
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 08:09 AM Mar 1

Swalwell tells Rubio to 'grow a pair' after Trump-Zelensky squabble

Source: The Hill

02/28/25 7:56 PM ET


Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) told Secretary of State Marco Rubio to “grow a pair” after the former senator defended President Trump after his heated meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Washington.

After Friday’s public spat between Zelensky, Trump and Vice President Vance, Rubio thanked the commander-in-chief for “standing up for America in a way that no President has ever had the courage to do before. Thank you for putting America First. America is with you!”

Swalwell, a frequent Trump critic, called out Rubio over his response to the huddle that quickly went off the rails. “Bro, did you write this? We all saw you,” Swalwell wrote in a Friday post on the social platform X. “You tried to shrink in your chair. You looked at Trump like he was some crazy ass pops who was embarrassing you on your first date. Don’t bulls— us. Grow a pair.”

The secretary of state sat relatively expressionless next to Vance during the Friday Oval Office as the meeting spiraled in a contentious back-and-forth.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5170432-swalwell-rubio-trump-zelensky/

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Swalwell tells Rubio to 'grow a pair' after Trump-Zelensky squabble (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 1 OP
Had Marco written that press release it would have included bible verses. sop Mar 1 #1
Psalms 109 Blue Full Moon Mar 1 #2
hey hill, you useless waste of ink and bytes, how about pointing out WHO niyad Mar 1 #3
"grow a spine, and quit imitating a bowl of jello" may communicate the same meaning, but not the intensity. nt thesquanderer Mar 1 #7
Way to miss the point. niyad Mar 1 #8
I got your point, you think there's sexism in using the term that way. You missed MY point... thesquanderer Mar 1 #10
Your response shows that you did, indeed, miss the point, since you niyad Mar 1 #11
Disagreeing with your point (and/or how it applies in this particular situation) is not the same as missing it. thesquanderer Mar 1 #14
Dear Goddess, it is absolutely depressing to see sexist language defended, niyad Mar 1 #15
Yeah Blue_Roses Mar 2 #17
what do you think of Crockett's msg to Trump, "I would tell him to grow a spine and stop being Putin's ho"? thesquanderer Mar 5 #18
Good. In a short clip of Rubio in that Oval office meeting, Rubio looked slumped and miserable. txwhitedove Mar 1 #4
I guess "water boy" didn't get the memo on what was about to go down. paleotn Mar 1 #5
Unfortunately, telling Li'l Marco to "grow a pair" MLWR Mar 1 #6
Rubio, flat, doesn't know what they are or how to do it. republianmushroom Mar 1 #9
Rubio looked like a 10 yo dressed in a hand-me-down suit forced to go to a grown-ups function tikka Mar 1 #12
Little Marco defending his "daddy" is pretty rich. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 1 #13
Only trump can regrow parts of his body (nt) fshrink Mar 1 #16

Blue Full Moon

(2,035 posts)
2. Psalms 109
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:40 AM
Mar 1

When he is tried, let him be found guilty, and may his prayers condemn him.
8 May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.
9 May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
10 May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes.
11 May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.
12 May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children.
13 May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation.
14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.
15 May their sins always remain before the LORD, that he may blot out their name from the earth.

niyad

(123,238 posts)
3. hey hill, you useless waste of ink and bytes, how about pointing out WHO
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 10:42 AM
Mar 1

created that disgusting scene yesterday?? Hint: it was NOT Zelenskyy.

And, Rep. Swalwell. .could we PLEASE stop using slang for male genitalia as synonyms for courage and integrity. "hey, marco, grow a spine, and quit imitating a bowl of jello."

thesquanderer

(12,567 posts)
7. "grow a spine, and quit imitating a bowl of jello" may communicate the same meaning, but not the intensity. nt
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:29 AM
Mar 1

thesquanderer

(12,567 posts)
10. I got your point, you think there's sexism in using the term that way. You missed MY point...
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 01:32 PM
Mar 1

..that your "fix" (suggesting what he should have said instead) is not equivalent. "Grow a pair" communicates an attitude and intensity that "grow a spine, and quit imitating a bowl of jello" does not. And if that was what he had said instead, it would not have had the same impact.

I also wouldn't equate this "balls" usage as "synonyms for courage and integrity" as you did. I'd say "ballsiness" indicates boldness, assertiveness. (In fact, sometimes it takes a lot of balls to do things that completely lack in integrity.)

niyad

(123,238 posts)
11. Your response shows that you did, indeed, miss the point, since you
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 01:39 PM
Mar 1

insist on defending that sexist language. But do keep trying. We need all the laughs we can get today.

thesquanderer

(12,567 posts)
14. Disagreeing with your point (and/or how it applies in this particular situation) is not the same as missing it.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 04:48 PM
Mar 1

Swalwell would have wanted his message to get noticed. Retweeted. Have sites like The Hill write about it. "Grow a pair" supported that goal. I am fairly confident that, like it or not, "grow a spine, and quit imitating a bowl of jello" would not have been as effective.

But also, while it obviously has a male-based origin, I don't think that makes the reference inherently always inappropriate... I think it has a usage today that goes beyond gender. If a woman does something particularly bold and assertive, and someone refers to it as a ballsy move, I wonder what percentage of women would actually find that offensive.

But okay, let's allow for the fact that some women do indeed find any usage of this sort offensive, and for that matter, that some people are likely to find "grow a pair" to be distastefully crude regardless of their gender. But if we want our anti-Trump representatives to get their messages out, maybe it's worth allowing some more linguistic leeway toward that goal? It's hard to imagine Al Gore or John Kerry saying "grow a pair," but a lot of the country relates better to people who talk the way "regular people" do. They wanted to have a beer with George W Bush, not some "elite" who always used just the right words, always politically correct.
(Of course there's a line. Using an ethnic slur against Rubio would have gotten him plenty of attention... of the wrong kind!)

So I guess to sum up, I'd say, okay, I don't see it as being as offensive as you do, but even allowing that some will find it offensive and that it isn't exactly the kind of speech we usually want to hear from our leaders, maybe even those who are bugged by it can see that there might sometimes be an offsetting advantage as well. And I guess I'm just pleased when I see any of our reps fighting back with some... well, I won't say it.

niyad

(123,238 posts)
15. Dear Goddess, it is absolutely depressing to see sexist language defended,
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 06:37 PM
Mar 1

and excused openly on an ostensibly progressive board. Not only defended, explained at length about why it is necessary and good. . and ending with a smile, because apparently the whole subject is funny, of no importance. Got it.

Blue_Roses

(13,731 posts)
17. Yeah
Sun Mar 2, 2025, 01:57 AM
Mar 2

I agree. It makes it relatable and has a stronger impact. It's all in how it's said and who it's said to that makes it relatable.

MLWR

(275 posts)
6. Unfortunately, telling Li'l Marco to "grow a pair"
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 11:02 AM
Mar 1

is tantamount to telling a frog to grow wings.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,594 posts)
13. Little Marco defending his "daddy" is pretty rich.
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 02:39 PM
Mar 1

Being that Marco Rubio's parents fled Communist Cuba that was being financed by Russia, under the brutal Dictatorship of Fidel Castro. I would call that ....IRONIC!!

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