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BumRushDaShow

(150,335 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:01 PM Feb 25

Could Musk's DOGE be turning fired workers Democrat? Group recruiting future liberal candidates sees spike in signups

Source: The Independent

Tuesday 25 February 2025 18:37 GMT


Elon Musk is turning people Democrat with his mass firings as they rush to join a progressive political group, the organization’s founder has revealed.

Amanda Litman, co-founder of Run for Something, said she anticipates that many of those joining the organization, which supports and recruits Democrats under 40 to run for office, will be federal workers fired by Musk and the Trump administration. Litman said that the organization has seen 20,000 new sign-ups since Election Day and 10 percent of those were in the last week.

“Can confirm: @runforsomething.net has seen a *huge* spike in people signing up to run for office since Trump & Elon started illegally firing public servants,” Litman said in a post on BlueSky.

The spike in sign-ups comes as more than 20 Department of Government Efficiency staffers have resigned after refusing to use their technical expertise to “dismantle critical public services.” “I expect we will see some candidates this year and next year who will talk about how Donald Trump and Elon Musk fired them while they were working for the American people,” Litman told Politico.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-doge-firings-backlash-b2704458.html

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Could Musk's DOGE be turning fired workers Democrat? Group recruiting future liberal candidates sees spike in signups (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 25 OP
Trump's voluntary buyout program was smart by comparison. Shermann Feb 25 #1
NOTHING that they have done has been legal or "aimicable" BumRushDaShow Feb 25 #2
Maybe... Possibly... Shipwack Feb 25 #3
i heard the same about Women signing up because of abortion. I'm very jaded. samsingh Feb 26 #4
Many did for state/county races BumRushDaShow Feb 26 #7
If There Are No More OhioTim Feb 26 #5
I agree, too many Dems still believe in the old way of doing things Born Free Feb 26 #8
Many of them were Democrats already. Hugin Feb 26 #6

Shermann

(8,898 posts)
1. Trump's voluntary buyout program was smart by comparison.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:24 PM
Feb 25

That's a great way to reduce the size of a workforce in an amicable way.

Waving a chainsaw prop around is the opposite of that. Some families never fully recover from a layoff depending on their situation, so more than a little sensitivity and consideration is in order here.

BumRushDaShow

(150,335 posts)
2. NOTHING that they have done has been legal or "aimicable"
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:34 PM
Feb 25

30 years ago (and the media has finally discovered this), the Clinton administration worked with Congress to do a re-org with buyouts but THROUGH LEGISLATION.

H.R.3345 - Federal Workforce Restructuring Act of 1994

SUMMARY

Conference report filed in House (03/16/1994)

Federal Workforce Restructuring Act of 1994 - Amends Federal civil service law to eliminate various restrictions on employee training.

(Sec. 3) Authorizes temporary "buy-out" programs for encouraging selected groups of employees in the executive and judicial branches (except employees of the Department of Defense, Central Intelligence Agency, or the General Accounting Office) to separate from Government service, generally by April 1, 1995, by offering them lump-sum payments in order to avoid or minimize reductions in force (RIFs).

Requires: (1) such payments (the lesser of $25,000 or the amount of the employee's severance pay) to be paid from amounts available for the employee's pay, and, generally, to be fully repaid if the employee rejoins the Federal Government within five years of separation; (2) the elimination of one full-time equivalent position for each one vacated by reason of a lump-sum payment; (3) that there be no increase in service contract procurement by reason of this Act except where it is financially advantageous to the Federal Government; and (4) participating Federal agencies to make specified contributions to the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund based on the final rate of basic pay of each employee who retires early and receives the lump-sum payment for FY 1994 and 1995, as well as on the number of agency employees subject to the Civil Service or Federal Employees' Retirement System for FY 1995 through 1998.

Authorizes the Director of the Administrative Office of the United States Courts to establish a program for judicial employees consistent with this Act.

(Sec. 5) Sets annual limitations on the total number of full-time equivalent executive agency positions each year through FY 1999, subject to waiver under certain conditions, such as war or national emergency. Suspends further agency hiring in cases of noncompliance with such limitations.

(Sec. 6) Requires the Office of Personnel Management to submit annual reports on such "buy-out" programs to the Congress.

(Sec. 7) Provides for severance payments for certain employees under contract with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration who worked in Yellow Creek, Mississippi, and whose separation resulted from the termination of the Advanced Solid Rocket Motor Program.

(Sec. 8) Amends Federal civil service law and the Central Intelligence Agency Voluntary Separation Pay Act regarding optional forgiveness of the lump-sum repayment obligations of bought-out employees reemployed in positions for which there is exceptional difficulty in recruiting qualified employees.

(Sec. 9) Revises the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP), with changes providing all separating TSP participants with the same options for withdrawal.

(Sec. 10) Amends the Alaska Railroad Transfer Act of 1982 to: (1) allow application to employees of a State-owned railroad under such Act of the buyout provisions of this Act; and (2) reduce the amount of service time required for such employees who remained covered under the Civil Service Retirement System to carry both Federal health and life insurance benefits into retirement.



Clinton Signs Bill on Buyouts for Federal Workers

By The Associated Press
March 31, 1994


President Clinton signed legislation today intended to help reduce the Federal work force by about 273,000 people over the next five years by offering buyouts of up to $25,000 to employees who leave Government. "After all the rhetoric about cutting the size and cost of Government, our Administration has done the hard work and made the tough choices," Mr. Clinton said in a statement released in Coronado, where he is vacationing.

The legislation aims to help cut the full-time Federal work force to 1.88 million by the end of the fiscal year 1999 in a more compassionate and cheaper way than involuntary layoffs. The buyouts are expected to reduce the work force by nearly 12 percent over five years.

Under the bill, a Federal employee who has completed 12 months of continuous service could take severance pay or a lump sum of $25,000, whichever is less, on leaving the Government.

The employee buyout plan gained wide bipartisan support after it became evident that the reduction goals would not be reached through attrition or involuntary dismissals. Congressional investigators concluded that involuntary dismissals would disproportionately affect minorities and women.

(snip)


Another article on that -

AGENCIES GRANTED BUYOUT POWER AS CLINTON SIGNS BILL

LAW RAISES DOWNSIZING MANDATE TO 272,900 GOVERNMENT JOBS

March 30, 1994
By Stephen Barr

President Clinton signed legislation yesterday designed to speed the downsizing of the government by offering buyouts of up to $25,000 to federal employees who resign or retire early. "With the buyout authority granted by this legislation, agencies can target employees in unnecessary high-level jobs and maximize savings," Clinton said in a statement.

The governmentwide buyout authority will allow each federal department and agency to decide when to offer the cash incentives and where they should be offered within the organizations. The authority expires on March 31, 1995.

Office of Personnel Management Director James B. King has set up an office at OPM to provide information to employees and agencies. "Buyouts build on successful private-sector experience, and they make good management sense," King said.

The legislation also mandates that the government reduce the federal work force by 272,900 employees between 1993 and 1999, eliminating about 20,000 more jobs than was recommended by Vice President Gore's National Performance Review. "We welcome this action," said Office of Management and Budget Director Leon E. Panetta. He said the mandatory work force reduction "will bring the size of the bureaucracy below 2 million for the first time since 1966 and to its lowest level since 1950."

(snip)


This random slash and burning crap - basically shooting first and asking later - is the WORST possible course of action when it comes to the federal government.

Shipwack

(2,567 posts)
3. Maybe... Possibly...
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 11:12 PM
Feb 25

It’s worth trying some outreach, just in case.

I know this is anecdotal, but a lot of fired workers I’ve seen interviewed are fine with all the cuts, they think that their face being eaten was just a mistake that will soon be remedied.

BumRushDaShow

(150,335 posts)
7. Many did for state/county races
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:17 AM
Feb 26

Groups like "Indivisible" helped to show them how to apply to run, gather petitions, etc.

We have to remember that everything isn't "national". Per the late great Tip O'Neill -

Born Free

(1,634 posts)
8. I agree, too many Dems still believe in the old way of doing things
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 09:14 AM
Feb 26

The "old" way included "Free and Open" elections, politicians would be concerned about poll numbers, but Trump has changed everything, this "new" way may not include free elections. Elected Democratic leaders better soon wake up to the "new' Trump way.

Hugin

(35,997 posts)
6. Many of them were Democrats already.
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:05 AM
Feb 26

They were prohibited from overt political activities due to laws, regulations, and tradition. (that THEY observed during their employment, unlike the Retrumplicans ).

They have found their voice.

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