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Omaha Steve

(105,072 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:09 PM Feb 25

Ukraine and US have agreed on a framework economic deal, Ukrainian officials say

Source: AP

By SUSIE BLANN, HANNA ARHIROVA and VASILISA STEPANENKO
Updated 4:29 PM CST, February 25, 2025

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine and the U.S. have reached an agreement on a framework for a broad economic deal that would include access to Ukraine’s rare earth minerals, three senior Ukrainian officials said Tuesday.

The officials, who were familiar with the matter, spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. One of them said that Kyiv hopes that signing the agreement will ensure the continued flow of U.S. military support that Ukraine urgently needs.

There was no immediate response to a request for comment from the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump.

The agreement could be signed as early as Friday and plans are being drawn up for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to travel to Washington to meet Trump, according to one of the Ukrainian officials.



Read more: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-economic-agreement-us-72ee2cfa720f6a42455c5425007060e6

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Ukraine and US have agreed on a framework economic deal, Ukrainian officials say (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 25 OP
Continued military support. Seems like a win for Zelensky. OrlandoDem2 Feb 25 #1
It's a win to be shaken down by a president of another country? choie Feb 25 #2
Zelensky is dealing with two vicious psychopaths. Irish_Dem Feb 25 #4
Question atreides1 Feb 26 #26
Low probability Trump will honor any deal. Irish_Dem Feb 26 #30
Bull shit DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #3
Yes highly unlikely Trump will honor any agreement. Irish_Dem Feb 25 #5
Not a lot different DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #6
Yes, wholesale slaughter of the Iraqi people, invasion, and theft of US Treasury. Irish_Dem Feb 25 #8
Do you recall DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #11
Oh yes and the Iraqi people would have free healthcare and all the school children Irish_Dem Feb 25 #12
The US's use DU bombs AND bullets DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #13
US did illegal invasion, ethnic cleansing, torture. Irish_Dem Feb 25 #14
I have often said ID, on DU DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #15
Yep Den, I was horrified and angry. Irish_Dem Feb 25 #17
I have had the honor DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #19
Wow that is so amazing. Irish_Dem Feb 25 #20
the most amazing thing DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #22
I admired President Carter R0ckyRac00n Feb 26 #28
Many military heroes don't talk about it. Irish_Dem Feb 26 #29
Great post! RazorbackExpat Feb 26 #24
I'm betting (hoping) Dotard will be LONG DEAD before ever seeing a penny of that steal.... AZ8theist Feb 25 #7
Yes, Zelensky is as smart as they come. Irish_Dem Feb 25 #9
And just think the first in command is getting a deal with the FAA to use this satellite system.............. turbinetree Feb 25 #10
Not being talked about DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #16
Agreed............and I am of the belief that before 2025 ends martial law will be declared............ turbinetree Feb 25 #18
He is just waiting DENVERPOPS Feb 25 #21
Again I agree..............we really are at war it has not been declared ............. turbinetree Feb 25 #23
In Ukraine's mind, this is a four-year deal. Meant to outlast Trump. everyonematters Feb 26 #25
Trump will lie samplegirl Feb 26 #27

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
4. Zelensky is dealing with two vicious psychopaths.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:20 PM
Feb 25

Trump and Putin.

If Zelensky and his people can escape total annihilation, he probably figures it is a win.

atreides1

(16,599 posts)
26. Question
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:27 AM
Feb 26

Do you really believe that Trump will honor this deal?

Is there a difference between total and partial annihilation?

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
30. Low probability Trump will honor any deal.
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:48 AM
Feb 26

Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.
Trump is a liar and cheat.

Yes there is a difference between total and partial annihilation.
If Putin had his way there would not be one Ukrainian man, woman or child left standing.
And the country would be in total ruins. A message to the world that Putin must not be crossed ever.

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
3. Bull shit
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:20 PM
Feb 25

Trump has never honored any agreement/deal he has made his entire fucking life.......And even if Zelensky honors the rare earth metals deal, Trump will allow Putin to come in and mine them, and keep most of them, as his mining fee.

The only thing Zellenski could do, considering the FACT that MUSK was going to cut off all his satellite internet connections that would have left Ukraine with no way of communicating......All of their citizens, and all of their Military also......

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
5. Yes highly unlikely Trump will honor any agreement.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:21 PM
Feb 25

And he will pocket most of the money or resources for himself.

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
6. Not a lot different
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:36 PM
Feb 25

Than Cheney with the oil, when he took over Iraq. He and his CABAL spent over a TRILLION dollars of tax payers money so far, destroying IRAQ and taking charge of their oil for his past employer Haliburton...

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
8. Yes, wholesale slaughter of the Iraqi people, invasion, and theft of US Treasury.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:51 PM
Feb 25

Master mind criminal of epic proportions.
And not one consequence.

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
11. Do you recall
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:13 PM
Feb 25

just days before their invasion, when Rumsfeld told everyone it would only take three days, and only cost three billion, and that the Iraq people would pay us back out of their oil profits............

That will go down in History as matching any lie Trump has ever told.........seeing as the current amount for the cost of the Iraq war has gone over ONE TRILLION DOLLARS.........(A THOUSAND BILLIONS, not three billion)

And the cost of the thousands of needless deaths, and even greater number of people maimed for life, in Iraq and our military......There is no price that can be put on that.

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
12. Oh yes and the Iraqi people would have free healthcare and all the school children
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:19 PM
Feb 25

would have matching back packs to go to school.

Then the US military drops depleted uranium on Bagdad, a city containing 50% women and children. Army personnel said that killing Iraqi solders was like clubbing baby seals.

The cost will never be paid off.
In terms of blood and treasure.

And who can forget the usual drunken Bush treating all of it like a big joke.
Looking under his desk in the Oval Office for the missing WMDs.

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
13. The US's use DU bombs AND bullets
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:31 PM
Feb 25

should be added as forbidden for use under the Geneva Convention.......under forbidden Chemical and Biological Weapons....

(I would bet that 99% of the U.S. population has no idea of what we are talking about Irish Dem).......

Of course many of our enemies don't care about the Geneva Convention......Putin supplied Chlorine Gas bombs to Assad to use on the resistance in Syria, wiping out entire villages of Men, Women, Children and Babies. Death by Chlorine gas is horrific.....

With Cheney and Rumsfeld ignoring the Geneva Convention when it came to torture, doesn't leave the U.S. saints.....

Heaven knows what other tons of stuff we don't know about........

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
14. US did illegal invasion, ethnic cleansing, torture.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:43 PM
Feb 25

While Cheney made so much money from all of his evil, we cannot even fathom it.

And most Americans thought it was all fine, even wonderful.

I was horrified.

Yes this is just the stuff we know about, we know there is much much more
behind the scenes.

One of my great aunts was a nurse at a big US hospital during WWI.
The love of her life was a young doctor sent to the front lines in France.
He was gassed (Chlorine among other gasses) and sent home to die a horrible death.
My aunt nursed him but he died. She never married and remained single.
He was the only man for her and she had to watch him die in agony.

Most people live their lives never noticing or caring about what their government does
in their name and on their dime. If you try to clue them in their eyes glaze over.

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
15. I have often said ID, on DU
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 09:37 PM
Feb 25

The perfect title for a book about the last 45+ years would be:

WHILE THE NATION SLEPT

There are some of us here today, that started screaming our heads off from the rooftops, when HWBush/Cheney committed TREASON to get Reagan "installed" in the White House. Probably included you, if your are as old as I am.

All of the Dems were calling me crazy, radical left wing, etc. There was even a group that called themselves: REAGAN DEMOCRATS....

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
17. Yep Den, I was horrified and angry.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 09:50 PM
Feb 25

Reagan committed treason to steal the election.
Carter was so upset I don't think he would ever discuss it in public.

BushSr with his illegal Gulf War. Should have been impeached for that.
Than the BushJr illegal activities as well which we have discussed.
Not to mention his stealing the election from Gore.

Newt Gingrich and pals ruthlessly stalking and harassing the Clintons.
Every assault resulted in stock market drops, hitting our retirement funds.
Kept the public upset and off kilter for years. We were just getting habituated
to the even nastier stuff which would come our way.

Right, the American people don't care. As long as they get cheap food and junk they
don't need, they will keep voting in the fascists.

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
19. I have had the honor
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 10:08 PM
Feb 25

of sitting and talking at great length with Jimmy Carter. He is an incredible human being. So full of kindness and warmth and the continued devotion to try and make things better for the U.S. People. He didn't just talk he listened, and always asked: "what do you think I can be doing better?"...... My wife has worked side by side with him during construction of a Habitat Home. She too feels he is the real McCoy. He worked all day alongside her, where as Clinton and a "famous actor" showed up for photo ops and then left.

He always restored my faith in humanity temporarily at least, until I had to step back into the real world.........

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
20. Wow that is so amazing.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 10:21 PM
Feb 25

What an honor and rare treat.

When they made Jimmy Carter, they threw away the mold.
We shall not see the likes of him any time soon.

Yes it is a tough planet.

The battle between good and evil is ever present and ongoing.

My daughter has told me that I am not from this planet
and I take it as a compliment.

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
22. the most amazing thing
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 10:29 PM
Feb 25

is, that as a candidate he never mentioned his vast Military Record, nor him personally facing he danger of radiation, and diverting a nuclear nightmare at a reactor???

Did you know, he retired the U.S. Navy, as a NUCLEAR SUB COMMANDER????????

I found him to be humble to a fault........certainly eligible to become a true Saint.....I am glad he was finally able to join his lifetime mate: Rosalyn.....she was incredible also......

R0ckyRac00n

(107 posts)
28. I admired President Carter
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:39 AM
Feb 26

And he had an exceptional Naval career, but he was never a nuclear sub commander. He served on diesel subs and started nuclear power school (a six month course of study that leads to operator training) in March, 1953. In July 1953, his father passed away and he resigned his commission to run the family peanut farm.

source:
https://atomicinsights.com/jimmy-carter-never-served-nuclear-submarine/#:~:text=President%20Carter%20was%20a%20submarine,undesignated%20bachelor%20of%20science%20degree.

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
29. Many military heroes don't talk about it.
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:44 AM
Feb 26

They are used to information being classified, they are humble, they were just doing the job
they were paid to do.

I was thinking the very same thing, if anyone is eligible to be a saint, it has to be Jimmy Carter.

AZ8theist

(6,682 posts)
7. I'm betting (hoping) Dotard will be LONG DEAD before ever seeing a penny of that steal....
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:48 PM
Feb 25

Zelensky is far more intelligent than Dotard.
The agreement should be: Weapons first, stealing from Ukraine later.

Irish_Dem

(67,546 posts)
9. Yes, Zelensky is as smart as they come.
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 07:52 PM
Feb 25

And knows Trump is a ruthless psychopath.
Just like Putin.

I hope Trump never sees one penny from this evil deal.

turbinetree

(25,989 posts)
10. And just think the first in command is getting a deal with the FAA to use this satellite system..............
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 08:06 PM
Feb 25

now does anyone want to fly now..............I will not ...............

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
16. Not being talked about
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 09:41 PM
Feb 25

but the Airlines are noticing a notable ding in air traveler's numbers, since the actions by Trump to the ATC......

In addition, people are already feeling the crunch, and already don't have the expendable extra income, or feel they dare spend it, not knowing what is coming........

turbinetree

(25,989 posts)
18. Agreed............and I am of the belief that before 2025 ends martial law will be declared............
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 10:00 PM
Feb 25

the dominos are being put in place.........

DENVERPOPS

(11,657 posts)
21. He is just waiting
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 10:23 PM
Feb 25

for a large, (even peaceful) demonstration, to enact the "Insurrection Act" order Martial Law........NO QUESTION IN MY MIND....

During the Black Lives Matter demonstrations, they actually sent their people in to start fires and to break windows in businesses to incite and justify the MAGA Police to violently attack the demonstrators.....

It was video taped !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He never said a single word, and allowed the J6th crowd to destroy the capitol. But the minute we do gatherings, he will turn into a true Dictator, Using the might of the U.S. Military to dominate the citizens. He has already violated the Posse Commatatus laws, which specifically out law the use of Military in Civilian matters. He has already sent 3600 of the Military to the Mexican borders to assist the racist cretins, Border Patrol.

Even though there are grounds to investigate the 2024 election, giving the win to Trump, I personally feel the dems didn't challenge it for fear of touching off an all out Civil War.........(Besides..."Dems being Dems".....They didn't challenge the 1980 election, nor the 2000 election, nor the 2004 election, not the 2016 election)

They have been putting the dominoes in place, organizing and orchestrating for this moment, just chipping away, since 1980, while the nation slept....

turbinetree

(25,989 posts)
23. Again I agree..............we really are at war it has not been declared .............
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 10:31 PM
Feb 25

like I said by the end of 2025 we either live in a martial law state or not..............

samplegirl

(12,855 posts)
27. Trump will lie
Wed Feb 26, 2025, 08:33 AM
Feb 26

Just like he did with Medicaid. Sat boldly last week
On Hannity and said he wouldn't touch it!

Not a man of his word.... Nothing good in this deal for Ukraine!!!!!🇺🇦

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