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OnlinePoker

(5,933 posts)
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:35 PM Feb 25

White House official pushes to axe Canada from Five Eyes intelligence group

Source: Financial Times

A top White House official has proposed expelling Canada from the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network as Donald Trump increases pressure on the country he talks about turning into the 51st US state.

Peter Navarro, one of the US president’s closest advisers, is pushing for the US to remove Canada from the Five Eyes — which also includes the UK, Australia and New Zealand — according to people familiar with his efforts inside the administration.

Trump has said he wants to annex Canada and has vowed to press ahead with 25 per cent tariffs on imports from the country when a one-month reprieve elapses on March 4.


Read more: https://www.ft.com/content/2dfa3c11-64a7-49f6-83df-939b8d1cfb8e



There is no doubt that Trump and his team are Russian assets.
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White House official pushes to axe Canada from Five Eyes intelligence group (Original Post) OnlinePoker Feb 25 OP
if i had to pick one eye to poke out, it wouldn't be canada rampartd Feb 25 #1
Exactly, gab13by13 Feb 25 #2
They're not sharing shit, and they shouldn't . . . . hatrack Feb 25 #6
None of the other four "eyes" will trust trump or Tulsi LetMyPeopleVote Feb 25 #12
Ridiculous, isn't it. The Koch/Musk oligarchy has removed its own damn self from the Five Eyes. As if ancianita Feb 25 #37
aside from operational security rampartd Feb 25 #38
Nothing. There is no "we," either. The American people are NOT with this. ancianita Feb 25 #40
LOL, why would a largely UK-dominated group kick out a UK affiliated member? Wingus Dingus Feb 25 #3
The destruction of the democratic alliance is going quite nicely. :( Irish_Dem Feb 25 #4
This is pretty ballsy.... bleedingulcers Feb 25 #5
We're in the sad position of Steve Fucking Bannon being the MAGA voice of reason muriel_volestrangler Feb 25 #7
Bannon is pissed that Musk replaced him. gab13by13 Feb 25 #9
Maybe he should start wearing three shirts. GreenWave Feb 25 #26
Hey, USA...There is the door. BTW, we do not give a shit if it does hit you on the way out. Scalded Nun Feb 25 #8
Isn't it down to Four Eyes already, since I doubt any of the others Ocelot II Feb 25 #10
My first thought, also. Four Eyes losing a treacherous US. erronis Feb 25 #23
This stupid idea is from Peter Navarro LetMyPeopleVote Feb 25 #11
Peter f#cking Navaro! zorbasd Feb 25 #15
Drugs, white privilege and probably carefully cultivated. erronis Feb 25 #24
May as well expel the US. NO ONE will share info with us after Trump. travelingthrulife Feb 25 #18
Why don't the UK, Australia, New Zealand, AND Cha Feb 25 #30
crazy Skittles Feb 25 #41
There are some who want to include Israel IronLionZion Feb 25 #13
Who thinks that trump has already sold secrets to Putin? LetMyPeopleVote Feb 25 #14
I assume Navarro will want to replace Canada with Russia. ratchiweenie Feb 25 #16
Ahhh...the criminal Navarro rears his ugly head. travelingthrulife Feb 25 #17
That seems counterproductive to the idea of annexing Canada ck4829 Feb 25 #19
Only a moron would do something like that wolfie001 Feb 25 #20
"There is no doubt.... markie Feb 25 #21
UK, Australia and New Zealand and Canada mdbl Feb 25 #22
That was basically my idea, too. Cha Feb 25 #31
I question if orange buffoon can do that. Doesn't matter, as already pointed out, no one is going to share with the US PortTack Feb 25 #25
I think the only Eye that might find itself excluded is the United States. Why would any country want to share Vinca Feb 25 #27
This is going to backfire ... aggiesal Feb 25 #28
What does "pushing for the US to remove Canada from the Five Eyes" mean? ShazzieB Feb 25 #29
If there's one thing the Clustertrump wants it's less information underpants Feb 25 #32
Considering that any intel Canada passes on to the U.S. probably now goes straight to the FSB,... LudwigPastorius Feb 25 #33
It's more likely... 2naSalit Feb 25 #34
Exactly what is the procedure for removing one of the Five Eyes? niyad Feb 25 #35
Give it up trump.... you are NOT going to talk a sovereign country slightlv Feb 25 #36
I'm sure other nations pfitz59 Feb 25 #39
I heard Peter Navarro on NPR this AM and he has zero ability to read the room. Amaryllis Feb 25 #42

rampartd

(1,806 posts)
1. if i had to pick one eye to poke out, it wouldn't be canada
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:39 PM
Feb 25

what value do we now add to the coalition?

gab13by13

(27,509 posts)
2. Exactly,
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:40 PM
Feb 25

5 Eyes is already down to 4 Eyes. No way the other 4 countries are going to share intelligence with us.

hatrack

(62,182 posts)
6. They're not sharing shit, and they shouldn't . . . .
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:48 PM
Feb 25

They're not the nations that vote alongside North Korea, Russia and Belarus.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,197 posts)
12. None of the other four "eyes" will trust trump or Tulsi
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 01:14 PM
Feb 25

trump and Tulsi will tell Putin everything

ancianita

(40,241 posts)
37. Ridiculous, isn't it. The Koch/Musk oligarchy has removed its own damn self from the Five Eyes. As if
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 06:14 PM
Feb 25

the other major Western Eyes can't manage intelligence and counterintelligence without us. It's because of their help that our past DOJ had actually made so many international arrests.

The U.S. oligarchy's intelligence and their own activities will now be targeted by the Four Eyes for the safety of the West against the Axis of Evil.

rampartd

(1,806 posts)
38. aside from operational security
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 06:19 PM
Feb 25

what can we add. we've fired all the agents and had their sources revealed. we have nothing to offer except internet conspiracies and enquirer headlines.

Wingus Dingus

(8,918 posts)
3. LOL, why would a largely UK-dominated group kick out a UK affiliated member?
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:40 PM
Feb 25

Especially for no real reason other than punishment and harrassment? Krasnov and Co. still think they have international clout. It's time for them to have the rudest of awakenings.

Irish_Dem

(67,548 posts)
4. The destruction of the democratic alliance is going quite nicely. :(
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:41 PM
Feb 25

Trump is the most valuable Russian agent Putin has ever had.

bleedingulcers

(68 posts)
5. This is pretty ballsy....
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:41 PM
Feb 25

If anybody is getting kicked out of Five Eyes, I would think that the US would top the list of candidates...

muriel_volestrangler

(103,412 posts)
7. We're in the sad position of Steve Fucking Bannon being the MAGA voice of reason
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 12:49 PM
Feb 25

Form the article:

Steve Bannon, the former White House strategist who helped Trump win in 2016, said Canada needed to realise that Trump was not trolling Trudeau but was serious about wanting to annex the country.

He said Canada lacked the resources to defend itself particularly as China attempts to become an Arctic power. But he said any move to evict Canada from the Five Eyes would be a counter-productive move that would just end up hurting America.

“Canada punches way above their weight. If you look at military history, they’ve been the best ally we’ve had,” Bannon said.



Ocelot II

(124,083 posts)
10. Isn't it down to Four Eyes already, since I doubt any of the others
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 01:10 PM
Feb 25

want to share anything with Fats Krasnov that's more classified than grandma's secret recipe for meat loaf.

zorbasd

(371 posts)
15. Peter f#cking Navaro!
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 01:43 PM
Feb 25

the stupidest POS jailbird conman to ever come from CA, once a UCI econ professor, if you can believe that atrocity.

IronLionZion

(48,378 posts)
13. There are some who want to include Israel
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 01:30 PM
Feb 25

if we really want to be in perpetual war.

Knowing Trump, he probably wants to join Russia, North Korea, China, etc.

Russia is closely allied with plenty of countries that Republicans are against but are too stupid to know it. Like Iran, Libya, Venezuela, Cuba, Houthis in Yemen, and more.

mdbl

(6,090 posts)
22. UK, Australia and New Zealand and Canada
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 03:33 PM
Feb 25

should tell Navarro and Dump to fuck off exclude them. Can't trust our intelligence system anymore anyway.

PortTack

(35,483 posts)
25. I question if orange buffoon can do that. Doesn't matter, as already pointed out, no one is going to share with the US
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 03:37 PM
Feb 25

Vinca

(51,849 posts)
27. I think the only Eye that might find itself excluded is the United States. Why would any country want to share
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 03:41 PM
Feb 25

intelligence with a Russian asset?

aggiesal

(9,915 posts)
28. This is going to backfire ...
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 03:47 PM
Feb 25

NATO and allies are going to drop the U.S. from seeing their classified info, even if it pertains to U.S. security, because they're concerned that we will just pass it along to Put-In, which Mierda47 probably would.

ShazzieB

(20,110 posts)
29. What does "pushing for the US to remove Canada from the Five Eyes" mean?
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 03:48 PM
Feb 25

Can one country (the US) unilaterally push out another one (Canada)? Wouldn't others have to agree?

If it has to be a group consensus, which I'm betting is the case, I think the other four would push us out before they'd agree to eject Canada.

I wonder if the real aim is to create a scenario that would give Trump an excuse to pull us out. He's not much on alliances of any kind, as we've seen.

LudwigPastorius

(12,095 posts)
33. Considering that any intel Canada passes on to the U.S. probably now goes straight to the FSB,...
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 04:07 PM
Feb 25

they might just pull out to protect themselves.

2naSalit

(96,328 posts)
34. It's more likely...
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 05:11 PM
Feb 25

We get shut out than anyone else. We have become the clear and present danger.

slightlv

(5,263 posts)
36. Give it up trump.... you are NOT going to talk a sovereign country
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 05:58 PM
Feb 25

into becoming our "51st state." And if you're so hepped up on adding to our numbers, there are a more than a few protectorates out there that DO want to join statehood. What? They're the wrong color? Sorry.... /snark

Canada should come right back and propose cutting the United States out of the Five Eyes Program, for being associated with Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Belarus, and Hungary. Since THESE are exactly the countries the Five Eyes are concerned about, allowing United States to stay in the organization would be self-defeating to everyone's safety and security. At least, that's the way I see it.

pfitz59

(11,430 posts)
39. I'm sure other nations
Tue Feb 25, 2025, 06:26 PM
Feb 25

are already restricting intel sharing with the US. Puts them at risk and has no upside.

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