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BumRushDaShow

(150,339 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 12:31 PM Feb 23

Kash Patel tells FBI staff to ignore Elon Musk's productivity email as signs of power struggles emerge in D.C.: reports

Source: The Independent

Sunday 23 February 2025 05:57 GMT


Elon Musk’s email ultimatum to federal workers, sent as part of his supposedly unofficial role as the leader of the Department of Government Efficiency, is facing pushback from across Washington, D.C. just hours after it was sent.
And some of the backlash is coming from unexpected corners of the Trump administration, perhaps teasing early signs of power struggles to come.

“Consistent with President @realDonaldTrump’s instructions, all federal employees will shortly receive an email requesting to understand what they got done last week,” Musk wrote Saturday afternoon. “Failure to respond will be taken as a resignation.” Federal workers received an email from the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) asking, “What did you do last week?”

They were instructed to reply with five bullet points outlining their accomplishments in the previous seven days, excluding any classified information. A deadline of 11:59 p.m. EST on Monday was given. Understandably, the email triggered confusion and questions about the legality of Musk's move. According to a White House legal filing, Musk officially has no federal government role or authority.

The most strident response came from the FBI and its newly sworn-in director, Kash Patel. He sent his own email to employees to clarify where the bureau stood. “FBI personnel may have received an email from OPM requesting information. The FBI, through the Office of the Director, is in charge of all of our review processes and will conduct reviews in accordance with FBI procedures,” Patel wrote, according to an NBC report. “When and if further information is required, we will coordinate the responses. For now, please pause any responses.”

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/musk-doge-email-federal-workers-b2703006.html

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Kash Patel tells FBI staff to ignore Elon Musk's productivity email as signs of power struggles emerge in D.C.: reports (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 23 OP
Love it. no_hypocrisy Feb 23 #1
Oh Elon, did you hear what Kash said? I think he's not giving you the respect you deserve Walleye Feb 23 #2
This circus is wild! Dem4life1234 Feb 24 #33
Looks like the whole circus is out of control. Klarkashton Feb 23 #3
Patel is an authorized government official, confirmed by the Senate - unfortunately. J_William_Ryan Feb 23 #4
Unfortunately... TomJulie Feb 23 #6
The non-Senate confirmed people are LIMITED regarding what roles they are allowed to have as an "Acting" BumRushDaShow Feb 23 #9
This is normal. There's something called The Plum Book that lists all political appointments... Hekate Feb 23 #10
Did Biden's appointments go around..... Quanto Magnus Feb 23 #22
I Did Some Looking Into That... TomJulie Feb 23 #24
Had To Do A Very Similar... TomJulie Feb 23 #5
Most federal workers have to do some kind of work time reporting and tracking BumRushDaShow Feb 23 #8
Clash of the Titans! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 23 #7
The prime qualification for being nominated to a government position by Orange Julius Caesar generalbetrayus Feb 23 #11
Remember, back in grade school... Mr. Evil Feb 23 #12
Apparently some did do stuff like that BumRushDaShow Feb 23 #13
I wish I could rec this a million times! Mr. Evil Feb 23 #14
That record was a classic and I still have my 45 of it (with the original jacket) BumRushDaShow Feb 23 #15
Oh, far out maaan! Mr. Evil Feb 23 #18
Dr. Demento fan here! BumRushDaShow Feb 23 #19
Holy shit, Mr. Evil Feb 23 #20
LOL 3auld6phart Feb 24 #26
We're with you all the way. Mr. Evil Feb 24 #31
Oh, thanx so much! Mr. Evil Feb 24 #32
Let's have a cage match between Musk and Patel Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 23 #16
Patel has those crazy eyes newdeal2 Feb 23 #17
BUT Jilly_in_VA Feb 24 #27
Musty looks like he was shoved in lockers Dem4life1234 Feb 24 #34
State Department too - WaPo Eugene Feb 23 #21
The Empires Strike Back Deminpenn Feb 23 #23
This is part of TSF's management style. Ursus Rex Feb 24 #25
Patel lied to the FBI agents about who would be deputy LetMyPeopleVote Feb 24 #28
Might be the only correct thing he will do as Director exboyfil Feb 24 #29
I prepare a short weekly report to my supervisor exboyfil Feb 24 #30

Walleye

(39,349 posts)
2. Oh Elon, did you hear what Kash said? I think he's not giving you the respect you deserve
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 12:36 PM
Feb 23

Let’s stir up some shit between these two. Kash said something like, your mama

BumRushDaShow

(150,339 posts)
9. The non-Senate confirmed people are LIMITED regarding what roles they are allowed to have as an "Acting"
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 01:27 PM
Feb 23

Hekate

(97,067 posts)
10. This is normal. There's something called The Plum Book that lists all political appointments...
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 01:36 PM
Feb 23

The thing to understand is that all those jobs end the day a new POTUS is sworn in.

Funnily enough, the first time Trump & his clowns came to DC, they stood around wondering where all the admin assts and so forth were. This time around they were better prepared.

Don’t know when The Plum Book was first put together, but my impression when I was a young thing was there was probably a scroll in the National Archives (joke)

Quanto Magnus

(1,105 posts)
22. Did Biden's appointments go around.....
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 05:26 PM
Feb 23

....firing or threatening to fire everyone else?
....making unconstitutional orders?
....bring in a bunch of teenagers to troll through and possibly steal government information?
....gratuitously attempt to close entire government departments with no Congressional authority?

TomJulie

(125 posts)
24. I Did Some Looking Into That...
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 11:43 PM
Feb 23

Musk hasn't fired anyone. He doesn't have the power to fire anybody. He's only an advisor. He tells Trump what he finds and Trump takes it from there.

TomJulie

(125 posts)
5. Had To Do A Very Similar...
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 01:00 PM
Feb 23

job Q&A ticket every 3 to 6 months. It was done through company email and you had to complete it within 5 working days unless you were out on vacation or LOA. The only time it really bugged me was the first time I had to complete it. After that is was pretty much the same. The questions did vary some but nothing major. No one was singled out. Everybody had to do it.

BumRushDaShow

(150,339 posts)
8. Most federal workers have to do some kind of work time reporting and tracking
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 01:25 PM
Feb 23

because THAT is how Congress allocates money in appropriations laws that get apportioned out to the Departments and Agencies.

There is specific programmatic, literal "line item" work that Congress might very explicitly designate that needs to be done and will include how much is allocated for that particular fiscal year (or years) for that work. And that is given a code/codes in agency financial systems, and is accounted for. And Congress WILL ask for the reports on the obligations/spends and the time spent for it.

All this is going to do is show WHY some "private businesses" need to be AUDITED because no one obviously has any clue what is being done with their money, so they "project" that inadequacy onto the government.

generalbetrayus

(825 posts)
11. The prime qualification for being nominated to a government position by Orange Julius Caesar
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 01:44 PM
Feb 23

is that you have to be an asshole. In my experience, putting a bunch of assholes together in a single room is not asking, but BEGGING for an explosion. Let the popcorn popping begin!

Mr. Evil

(3,234 posts)
12. Remember, back in grade school...
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 02:42 PM
Feb 23

upon returning from summer vacation, you were instructed to write short theme on what you did during summer vacation?

This, to me, seems something akin to that. Like those federal employees are being treated like children. And Muskolini is the teacher.

If I was one of those employees I'd happily oblige him. Here's my reply email:

What did I do last week?
• I pissed on your picture
• I also shit on your picture
• I watched a video of one of your rockets exploding after its launch
• I watched you babble incoherently in the Oval Office while using one of your children as a prop
• I watched you act like a deranged lunatic during your dog & pony show on stage during your CPAC appearance

There. Happy now, Elon? Take some more Ketamine and go fuck yourself!
I quit, effective immediately!

BumRushDaShow

(150,339 posts)
13. Apparently some did do stuff like that
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 02:52 PM
Feb 23

There was all kinds of meme-worthy stuff out there last night.

Reminds me of this -

Mr. Evil

(3,234 posts)
14. I wish I could rec this a million times!
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 03:06 PM
Feb 23

"On the first day of my vacation, I woke up. Then, I went downtown. To look for a job. Then, I hung out in front of the drug store."
"On the second day of my summer vacation, I woke up. Then, I went downtown. To look for a job. Then, I hung out in front of the drug store."
"On the third day of my summer vacation, I woke up. Then, I went downtown. To look for a job. Then, I got a job. Keeping people from hanging out in front of the drug store."

BumRushDaShow

(150,339 posts)
15. That record was a classic and I still have my 45 of it (with the original jacket)
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 03:09 PM
Feb 23

Looks like this -





Mr. Evil

(3,234 posts)
18. Oh, far out maaan!
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 03:56 PM
Feb 23


Growing up with them and George Carlin were some of the few joys of my childhood. Thanx so much!

Mr. Evil

(3,234 posts)
20. Holy shit,
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 04:04 PM
Feb 23

me too!

Also used to hit the King Biscuit Flower Hour and the Carver Sonic Holography shows. That's where I discovered Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush. Good times!

3auld6phart

(1,499 posts)
26. LOL
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 11:39 AM
Feb 24
amazing and disappointing ast what is happening down there. Do like your sense of humour.

Mr. Evil

(3,234 posts)
31. We're with you all the way.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 01:10 PM
Feb 24

Just keep in mind what you're really witnessing down here is the greatest heist in the history of the world. Elon, TSF and the rest of the money junkies are taking everything they can (and that includes the real junkies... like Elon). They just can't help themselves. It's finally time for decent human beings to enlighten them.

Dem4life1234

(2,530 posts)
34. Musty looks like he was shoved in lockers
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 11:07 PM
Feb 24

All talk, no game.

Patel's crazy Manson eyes would mollywhoop his ass. That mfer looks cray cray!

Eugene

(64,320 posts)
21. State Department too - WaPo
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 04:05 PM
Feb 23
Government agencies give conflicting guidance on Musk email (Washington Post)

The State Department told employees not to answer it. Employees at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency were told: Definitely reply. And in some parts of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, staffers received instructions to draft a response but not send it yet.

After Elon Musk led a move to email all 2.3 million government workers over the weekend asking them to share five bullet points detailing what they accomplished last week, chaos and confusion reigned. Agencies issued conflicting guidance, as did different divisions within the same agency, in some cases.

Raising the stakes, Musk warned in a post on X that any employee who failed to respond would be treated as having resigned. But the email sent to workers made no mention of this possible consequence, which lawyers said would be illegal.

On Sunday, a Republican lawmaker questioned the viability of the directive.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/government-agencies-conflicting-guidance-musk-170710552.html

Deminpenn

(16,704 posts)
23. The Empires Strike Back
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 08:09 PM
Feb 23

Once you are put in charge of a large number of employees, you have an empire. Imo, very few people are willing to give that up or any of the employees in it. In fact, they want to build their empire by getting more people in it. I think this is human nature, evolutionary biology even.

Ursus Rex

(352 posts)
25. This is part of TSF's management style.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 11:14 AM
Feb 24

Underlings squabbling and fighting like hyenas so they aren't trying to take him out.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,197 posts)
28. Patel lied to the FBI agents about who would be deputy
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 11:55 AM
Feb 24

The FBI Agents Association said in a memo that Patel had agreed to them that the deputy post would go to “an on-board, active Special Agent.” He then broke that commitment and hired Bongino.



exboyfil

(18,189 posts)
29. Might be the only correct thing he will do as Director
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 12:05 PM
Feb 24

Hopefully in his short stint in the position.

exboyfil

(18,189 posts)
30. I prepare a short weekly report to my supervisor
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 12:11 PM
Feb 24

It is actually a pretty nice way to be accountable for your activity. He does read them and changes priorities as necessary.

That being said this micromanagement is BS especially for someone that isn't even in the reporting chain for these workers. What is the plan to have AI scan all reports? In most cases the report would be meaningless to anyone that isn't familiar with the organization.

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