Canada PM Trudeau to announce resignation as early as Monday, Globe and Mail reports
Source: Reuters
Jan 5 (Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is expected to announce as early as Monday that he will resign as Liberal Party Leader, The Globe and Mail reported on Sunday, citing three sources.
The sources told the Globe and Mail that they don't know definitely when Trudeau will announce his plans to leave but said they expect it will happen before a key national caucus meeting on Wednesday.
The Canadian prime minister's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment outside regular business hours.
It remains unclear whether Trudeau will leave immediately or stay on as prime minister until a new leader is selected, the report added.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-pm-trudeau-announce-resignation-early-monday-globe-mail-reports-2025-01-06/
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underpants
(187,622 posts)It remains unclear whether Trudeau will leave immediately or stay on as prime minister until a new leader is selected, the report added.
Trudeau took over as Liberal leader in 2013 when the party was in deep trouble and had been reduced to third place in the House of Commons for the first time.
Trudeau's departure would leave the party without a permanent head at a time when polls show the Liberals will badly lose to the Conservatives in an election that must be held by late October.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-pm-trudeau-announce-resignation-early-monday-globe-mail-reports-2025-01-06/
3catwoman3
(25,793 posts)
Unladen Swallow
(371 posts)
montanacowboy
(6,363 posts)I really hate to see him go such a bright young man; what is coming? Doug Ford? Pierre P? please Canada don't do this.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,221 posts)If elections are called. Sounds like Trudeau is resigning as party leader only, for now at least. Probably doesn't matter much though, I think the NDP pulled their support from Trudeau after the last cabinet resignation a couple weeks ago. He'll probably face a no confidence vote again. If elections are called, barring polling being way off, the CPC is going to crush the Liberals. Polls have them ahead 20+pts. Seen some at 25pts.
AllyCat
(17,279 posts)I have a former coworker who is really progressive who just told me she’s voting for Pollivre because “Trudeau has really messed things up” but wouldn’t go into detail.
calimary
(84,752 posts)Pox Noise viewer, maybe?
AllyCat
(17,279 posts)Trudeau
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,506 posts)Suckered by Pierre Axe the Tax Poilievre who is good with slogans but is deliberately avoiding stating substantive policy positions because his actual policies are generally losers. Being pinned down would be detrimental to the personal ambitions of Pierre Axe the Tax Poilievre, even though it would be good for Canadians to know.
Unfortunately there are stupid Canadians who will want to "send a message", like the pro-Palestinians in the US who voted tRump and now are experiencing FAFO symptoms and likely will have to endure FAFO pain.
cabotnn22
(55 posts)The economy here is not good. I live in the Atlantic region where we pay 15% GST, and we're one of the poorest provinces. Almost 30% of the people in my province do not have a family doctor. I believe the official number is closer to 15-20%, but many people aren't on the wait list. Some people have been on the wait list for three plus years. I've been on the wait list for two years. I pay $30 a month to go to a private clinic. Wait times are terrible. I have a mammogram scheduled for July - it was scheduled around July of last year. In Ontario, where I don't live, there are Jewish neighbourhoods being harassed by protestors. Neighbourhoods - not the consulate, not a business, but actual homes of people. In Ottawa, they protested outside of a home for the elderly solely because they were Jewish. We have a housing shortage. There is a lot wrong with Canada at the moment. As much as it pains me to say it, the economy was better under Harper.
Trudeau is seen as weak. Our Liberal party in NS were decimated at the last provincial election, unfortunately. The PCs now have a large majority. Trudeau resigning will only be helpful to the party - if they replace him with someone not in his circle. My gut feeling is it will be Carney, but we shall see.
Omnipresent
(6,521 posts)Why aren’t the police doing anything about that?
cabotnn22
(55 posts)They just stand around, watching. There is quite a difference in how they police certain protests vs how they policed the stupid trucker thing in Ottawa during lockdown. It is quite frustrating. I've attended protests, marches, etc...I can't recall ever going into a neighbourhood and harass people who live there. We'd target the business or the consulate, not individuals. Who knows? Maybe times have changed.
To be fair, this hasn't happened on a regular basis - but it has happened in Toronto and Ottawa a few times. I'm grateful it isn't more than that.
Omnipresent
(6,521 posts)Protesting private citizens should be considered harassment.
EllieBC
(3,395 posts)The last idiot who was promising the final solution on video at a protest, luckily was doxxed and lost her franchises. Her franchises were a couple of coffee shops, one of which was in the Jewish General hospital in Montreal.
There’s an orthodox school that has been shot at several times in the last year alone.
Add to this that Canada is overall soft on crime. It’s sort of the norm here in Vancouver to at least once a month here that the police are warning that a sexual predator has been released in Vancouver however, they can’t give his name or his whereabouts due to privacy laws.
DonCoquixote
(13,745 posts)sometimes I wonder if Musk is trying to make earth so bad we all cross like cattle onto Mars.
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,506 posts)
getagrip_already
(17,590 posts)Wonder if some of those older cia files were involved?
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,506 posts)You are wrong too and you can't make a convincing case. You can only (and have only) posted suppositions and innuendo and imaginings. The timeline does not add up to the conclusion you state. Further, blackmail requires dirt and there is not a shred of evidence of dirt you can point to. (You might look for it but I do not expect you to make a post about his dirt or any evidence there might be dirt.) Trudeau did have a minor controversy about an island vacation early in his term but there was no there there. That had bad optics, not this.
2023 and 2024: A few Liberal MPs called for Trudeau to resign as Pierre Axe the Tax Poilievre sloganeered his way to popularity while avoiding specifics on his own policies.
November: tRump proposed damaging tariffs (damaging for both countries)
November 29 Trudeau met with tRump.
December 16 Christia Freeland very publicly resigns. This seems to have been the tipping point.
All through this period Trudeau spoke and acted like a man ready to lead his party into the election in 2025. Only in late December did he say he would think about it over the holidays.
Well, after, like seven weeks after. lol
No. tRump did NOT cause Trudeau's likely resignation (possibly in less than an hour).
getagrip_already
(17,590 posts)Something he could be blackmailed over wouldnt be known to the public or media. If it were, it wouldnt be very effective.
It would be a well kept secret. But our intel groups have a way of learning secrets, and keeping them. Well, until a wretch comes along and gets access.
Not saying this is the case, but your arguments are pretty weak. We may never know what his reasons were.
But there are no forces at play to force his resignation. So why did he do it now?
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,506 posts)... before you get further behind.
?!
You are ignoring or are unaware of the events I outlined or you would not make such a ridiculous unknowing statement. Please study up on recent Canadian events and politics before you make more big mistakes like your statement. Seriously.
FakeNoose
(36,103 posts)
HereForTheParty
(344 posts)nm
3Hotdogs
(13,643 posts)I'd rather go in the bathroom and take care of my needs.
Unladen Swallow
(371 posts)
AloeVera
(2,096 posts)The hits just keep on coming.
I really fear for the Canada I've known for 55 years, my adopted country. Dark times everywhere.
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,506 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,510 posts)qazplm135
(7,546 posts)Nearly every incumbent govt has lost now regardless of which side of the aisle they are left or right.
The entire planet is angry.
Jose Garcia
(2,950 posts)
yardwork
(64,867 posts)All over the world there's a rapid churn as voters keep voting out leaders. People are unhappy with the lingering impacts of COVID, especially the higher prices. They're blaming leaders.
getagrip_already
(17,590 posts)Dem leaders in their ultimate wisdom forced him out publically.
How'd that work out?
He wasnt voted out. Thats a rw smear.
yardwork
(64,867 posts)There's a global churn of elected officials going on. Look what's happening in Germany and France. Parties get voted in, can't change the facts about the impact of COVID, and get voted back out. It's a predictable response to a global pandemic.
Jose Garcia
(2,950 posts)getagrip_already
(17,590 posts)A lot of voters were turned off by his ouster and replacement.
He was a rust belt voters choice. Unions supported him, and not just the leadership.
He had a winning coalition which was shattered and not recast.
Just like fetterman winning pa. A more progressive candidate wouldnt have won.
Ymmv.
qazplm135
(7,546 posts)I get being mad at the unfairness of that, but it is what it is.
getagrip_already
(17,590 posts)Attacks from the left hurt the temporary polls, but it could still have been overcome.
Polls are all temporary at that stage. If the party leaders had come together rather than pulling down the tent, he would have won again.
This was a self inflicted wound. Our far left killed us.
qazplm135
(7,546 posts)Borne of nothing but extreme loyalty.
We lost just like every other incumbent party has post Covid inflation.
The left didn't kill us, the moderates didn't kill us, neoliberals didn't kill us, inflation did.
getagrip_already
(17,590 posts)Just one example was elements of the squad attacking biden over israel.
There are dozens of examples of dems attacking the administration over pet issues.
They all played into what call a post inflation distrust. The economy is and was very healthy overall, but corporate greed fueled price increases on every day items.
Add attacks from within your own party and its no wonder voters stayed away.
So yes, it was the far left and t b eir petty pet issues that contributed to bad polls. We hurt our own chances and now nobody takes responsibility.
qazplm135
(7,546 posts)You blame the left. So you think the mushy middle that doesn't pay attention to much of anything until pretty much voting day were laser focused on liberal criticism of Biden when deciding to vote Trump over Harris but would have voted for Biden because?
getagrip_already
(17,590 posts)The far left is a different beast than liberals or progressives. I always said the far left.
The far left in our party is a burn it all down at whatever cost minority. Their issues aren't unimportant, just the opposite, but their methods are destructive to us winning.
So don't put words in my mouth.
Elessar Zappa
(16,193 posts)He was down by double digits in NM and Nevada and losing New Jersey. His approval rating was awful. He would have lost by a much wider margin than Harris. He made the right choice by stepping aside.
qazplm135
(7,546 posts)Not post Covid, post global inflation, same with Biden.
Nearly every incumbent government in the last two years in the western world has either lost an election during that time period or saw a very large lead shrunk to almost nothing. US, UK, Germany, France, and more.
Or they are about to lose one. Canada.
rurallib
(63,313 posts)that has been blamed on every incumbent around the world
niyad
(120,922 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(51,506 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:34 AM - Edit history (1)
It is a particular kind of floating vague assumptive American arrogance -- almost floating in the air Americans breath -- that believes that nothing happens outside of America without an American impulse. It is true that American influence can be suffocating in some aspects when a country like Canada is cheek by jowl beside a country with 9 times larger population. But Canada has a different political system and different factors in operation.
Trudeau has been low in the polls for months since 2023 and somewhat before. Before tRump was the nominee. Before tRump debated Biden. Before and while it looked like Harris was going to win.
Christia Freeland's letter may have been the the final straw. It was certainly noted for its impact. Christia Freeland is a free woman who might become the Liberals' leader, and might thus be Canada's next Prime Minister. tRump has publicly expressed his dislike for her. She acted as a free agent with her letter. Surely the first hypothesis should be that she acted freely of her own volition. Surely the first hypothesis when something has developed over many months is that the person who only just gained partial power a couple of months ago was not the cause. Surely one should have at least some specific evidence before engaging in accusative speculation that takes as its hypothesis that the Canadians did not act on their own.
You as a free woman can ask any questions you like, and even post the same question several times in different threads as you have, but some questions that are framed as if there must be an American explanation for everything outside of the US come off as disrespectful, I'm sorry to have to say.
Note: I am sure you personally do not mean to be disrespectful, so I wrote most of this generally. I know tRump is capable of skulduggery but that does not make any kind of a base for speculation in this way.
niyad
(120,922 posts)And, of course, you are correct, the question is disrespectful, and I apologize. It was a sad, kneejerk reaction.
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,506 posts)getagrip_already
(17,590 posts)Those optics arent good for your argument, while i applaud your passion.
Lets face it, tiny had access to cia dirt on just about every world leader.
Tiny was proven to steal docs like that.
Tiny is known to blackmail enemies.
Again, the optics arent good.
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,506 posts)You are wrong too and you can't make a convincing case. You can only (and have only) posted suppositions and innuendo and imaginings. The timeline does not add up to the conclusion you state. Further, blackmail requires dirt and there is not a shred of evidence of dirt you can point to. (You might look for it but I do not expect you to make a post about his dirt or any evidence there might be dirt.) Trudeau did have a minor controversy about an island vacation early in his term but there was no there there. That had bad optics, not this.
2023 and 2024: A few Liberal MPs called for Trudeau to resign as Pierre Axe the Tax Poilievre sloganeered his way to popularity while avoiding specifics on his own policies.
November: tRump proposed damaging tariffs (damaging for both countries)
November 29 Trudeau met with tRump.
December 16 Christia Freeland very publicly resigns. This seems to have been the tipping point.
All through this period Trudeau spoke and acted like a man ready to lead his party into the election in 2025. Only in late December did he say he would think about it over the holidays.
Well, after, like seven weeks after. lol
No. tRump did NOT cause Trudeau's likely resignation (possibly in less than an hour).
delisen
(6,636 posts)The Trump coalition is probably eager to destabilize the Sheinbaum government. The more solid news we can pay attention to on Mexico the better for us.
The Trump coalition foreign relations wing promotes authoritarian El Salvador in Central America and is hostile toward the the surging of economic development and social liberalization in Mexico.
Rhiannon12866
(225,094 posts)
Jose Garcia
(2,950 posts)Trudeau is about as popular as foot fungus right now. If the Liberal Party is to have any hope, they need a new leader.
True Dough
(21,120 posts)have a case of foot fungus or a case of Trudeau (asks True Dough).
