Cybertruck blast suspect was a 'Rambo type' who loved Trump, family says

[Ping Tung]

Source: Independent

The active-duty Green Beret who was driving a Tesla Cybertruck that blew up outside the Trump International Hotel Las Vegas on New Year’s Day “was a 100 percent patriot,” his bewildered uncle said Thursday.

Matthew Livelsberger, 37, was “like a Rambo-type, for lack of a better word,” Dean Livelsberger told The Independent.

Dean, whose older brother is Livelsberger’s father, Roger, himself an Air Force veteran who served in Vietnam, said his nephew “loved the Army.”

“He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country,” he continued. “He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American. It’s one of the reasons he was in Special Forces for so many years. It wasn’t just one tour of duty.”

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cybertruck-explosion-suspect-matthew-livelsberger-vegas-b2672940.html

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Just another True Believer Patriot protecting us from terrorists?

[Nictuku]

1. ... wondering if his Wife divorced him for supporting Trump?

I kind of divorced my brother yesterday, first time he called since the election. I really yelled and screamed at him (kind of surprised myself), I just can't deal with talking to TSF supporters, even if you are my brother.

Of course he said that he didn't actually vote, I said: "The last thing /you/ said to me before the election was "We will see..." and I then yelled at him: "Were you lying then, or you lying now?" I gave him no quarter. I am not this kind of yelling screaming person, but it all just came out. He was a Trumper, maybe he didn't actually vote. I bet a lot of people losing family members are saying they didn't actually vote for him.

[Roy Rolling]

58. Symptom of a Domestic Terrorist?

“He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country,” he continued. “He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American. It’s one of the reasons he was in Special Forces for so many years. It wasn’t just one tour of duty.”

Are we seeing a pattern here? So patriotic, he wanted to kill himself on TV for Trump.

[JI7]

2. So why didn't he stick around to experience the 2nd term

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. I think his wife discovered his infidelity, tRump betrayed him, so he decided to suicide in spectacular fashion

I read his wife confronted him over infidelity and he left a few days ago (not certain of veracity). Last week or so, Muck was defending H1-B visas. tRump had promised to end them in 2016. He of course was full on against immigrants, especially undocumented ones. Then VP-elect tRump switched and backed his co-president supporting the H-1Bs. Many many magas howled that that was a betrayal and vowed to never support him again.

Hence a Muck cybertruck (the nemesis) at a tRump (the double-crossing ratfink) hotel. He had to drive a long distance to get there from Colorado, so it was important.

[4catsmom]

36. But it's not a cult

they told me it wasn't

[LeftInTX]

54. His wife kicked him just after Christmas. They had a new baby.

He was cheating on her. Then he texted an old GF after he rented the cybertruck.

[LeftInTX]

60. He had a traumatic brain injury from Afghanistan and shot himself in the mouth.

[Silent Type]

3. trumpsters aren't rational, but what motivated him here? Did trump/musk tick him off?

[Rebl2]

13. Makes

you wonder doesn’t it. Maybe they have said things since the election that made him angry. Strange way of getting back at them.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. tRump-Muck ticked off a lot of magas very severely over the H-1B visa betrayal. . . . . nt

[BlueKota]

4. The tsf and eloon foster their hate then

load them like a cannon ball into a cannon and then aim them at the rest of us. What they don't realize is sometimes cannons backfire.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. MAGA Catharsis makes them feel good as they try to get some attention.

It's hard to be so righteous and not be recognized for your own brilliance the way Trump is worshipped. I don't really know what's happened with these people, but it seems to me to involve their rigid minds yearning for the spotlight.

[generalbetrayus]

6. Maybe the reason the explosion wasn't large enough to damage the Trump hotel

was that he wanted to commit suicide next to a Trump property and go out with a bang without causing any actual damage to it.

[The Grand Illuminist]

7. Or could be a MAGA inside job.

Just laying it on the table.

[Blue Owl]

8. It all worked out real well for him

Real well….

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. He got the spectacular suicide that linked Muck and tRump. I think because they betrayed magas over H-1B. . . . . nt

[Justice matters.]

9. Maybe he felt "betrayed" by his dear leader siding with oligarch 1?

Maybe he couldn't stand the felonious rapist's betrayal and being so devoted to the extreme-right agenda, he blew a gasket and decided to show them...

Who knows?

The propaganda is strong in these types...

[orleans]

14. seems so many of them are bitching about feeling screwed over on the immigrant issue

i'm thinking your guess is mostly on the money -- betrayed by trump (& eloon)

[cos dem]

15. This is what makes sense to me. He was probably a disgruntled MAGAT.

We've all enjoyed the MAGAT vs tech bro infighting, and the guy was probably despondent when he saw orange Hitler siding with Muskrat over his beloved MAGAT cult. It should be clear to the MAGATs that they're not needed anymore. The future belongs to the oligarchs.

[OMGWTF]

50. I've never met a "gruntled" MAGAt. They aren't happy unless they are pissed off about something.

[IronLionZion]

10. That's proof it's not terrorism then

Yep, mental illness. He's the real victim here. It's the price of eggs. Economic anxiety

[RobertDevereaux]

11. Does not compute. Never will compute.

“He . . . was 100 percent loving the country. He loved Trump, and he was always a very, very patriotic soldier, a patriotic American.”

True patriotic soldiers, true patriotic Americans, despise Trump.

[IronLionZion]

25. These people don't know what it means to love our country

people who love America don't want to hurt their fellow Americans.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Betrayed by tRump, sold out by Muck, he cheated on his wife (so I read) she discovered. Makes good sense as a suicide.nt

[uncledad]

12. Patriot?

"He used to have all patriotic stuff on Facebook, he was 100 percent loving the country"
Well if had "patriotic shit on facebook," then yeah he must have really loved America? My experience has always been that these assholes what call themselves "patriots" actually hate this country. The flag to them is nothing more than a tool to own the libs. They live in some mythical 1950's black and white version of America that never existed except in the slogans and propaganda of the far right in this country.

[prodigitalson]

45. hell, two trump supporters tried to kill trump

they are a weird bunch

[Unladen Swallow]

16. Nothing about this story is making any sense

[Ray Bruns]

63. He was MAGA. When did what they do ever make sense?

[Grumpy Old Woman]

17. Maybe he made himself a sacrifice?

Clocking out as close to the heavenly gates as possible? Just a thought.

[TNNurse]

19. Both of the vehicles used in these two horrific incidents

were rented. Did not want to use their own vehicles. Cowards leave their families with the issues of those resntals.

[4catsmom]

38. I heard they were Turo rentals

which are like someone loaning you his car - people put their extra cars on Turo to earn a few bucks. They probably won't do it again.

[underpants]

40. They aren't paying off the credit card

they know they have no repercussions.

A couple of the mass shootings and I think the kid in Butler PA bought their killing machines with a credit card

[Hieronymus Phact]

22. one theory

Maybe he was upset about all that talk about terminating the constitution and not voting any more?
Try that one on the next magat, you can make them look it up!

[Demobrat]

23. Could it have been an accident?

I haven’t followed closely, but I think he had fireworks and gasoline in the truck? Could he have gone down there to celebrate his heroes and just accidentally lit a cigarette at the wrong time?

[littlemissmartypants]

24. He shot himself in the head before the truck exploded. eom

[Demobrat]

27. Oh. I see. Thank you!

Not an accident then

[CentralMass]

56. Well, he could have accidental shot himself in the head then fallen on the plunger.

[IronLionZion]

26. Why gasoline though?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. Putting fireworks together with gasoline or gas canisters is not an accident. . . . . nt

[mwb970]

28. "Patriotic" and "loved trump" don't go together.

[Evolve Dammit]

29. bizzare

[hay rick]

32. Maybe a light bulb went off in the patriot's head.

If blowing up a Musk truck in front of a Trump hotel doesn't send a message, I don't know what does.

Homage to Thich Quang Duc protesting a corrupt regime?

[Martin Eden]

39. Patriotism is Incompatible with Donald Trump

True American heroes made tremendous sacrifices to defeat fascism, and now they are turning in their graves because the American people put a fascist in the White House.

[blueseas]

41. Weird

Strange story

[Emile]

65. +1

[prodigitalson]

42. the guy rented a cybertruck...who does that?

[Aussie105]

44. Sad when people mention 'Rambo style' and everyone knows exactly what that implies.

For the uneducated:

Rambo is a fictional character, designated the 'good guy' before the film even rolls in theatres.
Rambo always wins.
The actors get to go home at the end of the filming, alive and well.

In real life, none of that is true.

[mdbl]

46. Sorry but being a trumper in no way makes you a patriot

it just makes you look stupid.

[Renew Deal]

47. Could the uncle be lying?

Was the Rambo wannabe compromised in some other way like blackmail?
Could it have been some sort of false flag induced by mental illness?

[louis-t]

48. What part of the country that he "loved so much"

was he tryng to blow up?

[Emile]

49. TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME!

[CaptainTruth]

51. You can't be a patriot & support Trump, period. Pick one.

[BOSSHOG]

52. Roger That Capn

Your family calling you a Patriot doesn’t make you a Patriot.

[Skittles]

57. Trump never accepted he lost, then he tried to overthrow the government

he doesn't truly BELIEVE in America and neither does anyone who supports him

[Polybius]

53. So why not watch his inauguration and enjoy his Presidentcy?

It doesn't make sense. His boy won.

[CentralMass]

55. Who woulda thunk. (I'm being sarcastic)

[Aussie105]

61. Deepest sympathies to those affected directly by this.

Analysis as to WHY ? ? ? ? don't get anywhere.

They never do.

So pointless, really.

[Kali999]

62. Maybe

He didn't like them yapping about ending Veterans Benefits. And the cognitive dissonance caused a melt down.

[ck4829]

66. Kick