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For absolutely no reason other than his huge ego and small brain.

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QueerDuck
(2,446 posts)Hieronymus Phact
(793 posts)QueerDuck
(2,446 posts)It is easy to look at a photograph and demand that leadership turn it into a political weapon, but I think we have to look at the bigger picture.
I think it's a mistake for anyone to be framing our leadership as weak (or timid or ineffective) simply because they aren't holding press conferences about property damage. This ignores the reality of what actually moves voters. Also, I think it only serves to diminish what we're actually doing.
As involved political junkies, of course this stuff horrifies us. But in a frontline election cycle, voters care about inflation, reproductive rights, healthcare, and national security.
Focusing national messaging on a landscape photo would make the party look performative and distracted. Leadership is fighting exactly where it matters most: on the legislative floor and in organizing the ground game to win back our majorities.
Hieronymus Phact
(793 posts)"As involved political junkies, of course this stuff horrifies us. But in a frontline election cycle, voters care about inflation, reproductive rights, healthcare, and national security."
That's not wrong, people do care about kitchen table issues, but 2 things can be true at once.
They can also be horrified about this and it can sway peoples vote.
We are an affluent society, there are plenty of people who care more about this than boring healthcare.
it just can't be ignored, republicans wouldn't ignore it if a Democrat did this.
QueerDuck
(2,446 posts)I never said two things can't be true at once. Of course people can be simultaneously horrified by the lawn and worried about their finances. But campaigns operate in a world of finite resourceslimited hours, limited ad dollars, and limited voter attention spans.
We have to look at the cold reality of how campaigns actually work:
The "Affluent" Fallacy: Dismissing healthcare as "boring" because we are an "affluent society" completely ignores the very voters we need to flip swing districts. Working-class families, independents, and marginalized communities don't view healthcare, prescription costs, or reproductive rights as "boring" .... they view them as matters of survival.
Preaching to the Choir: The voters who are deeply offended by the state of the White House lawn are already voting for us. Shaming and scolding Republicans might feel incredibly satisfying to the base, but it does absolutely nothing to expand our coalition.
The "So What?" Factor: If a campaign spends its limited ad budget on landscape photos, a moderate independent might shake their head and think, "Wow, that's terrible." But it leaves them completely in the dark about how a Democratic majority will actually lower their cost of living or protect their rights.
I get it. I'm outraged and disgusted too. But... remember this: Our personal outrage over norm-breaking obscenities does not motivate non-voters or flip swing independents. Instead, what does do this are tangible solutions to their lived experiences do. We can't afford to waste precious airtime on finger-wagging when we need to be proving why our platform is the better choice for their daily lives.
Hieronymus Phact
(793 posts)but it's just not true,
it only motivates those who care about that stuff but it's not everyone.
Many people are insulated and take those things for granted.
Different things resonate with different people. Attack on every front. it's not resource intensive to just toss in reminders of this stuff to keep it afloat in the news.
"when he's not destroying the white house, he's wreaking your health insurance"
QueerDuck
(2,446 posts)But, I'll summarize for you one final time... as quickly and simply as possible. I don't want to spend all day on this again.
My entire point is based on how we scale our messaging to reach the broadest possible coalition of voters.
When it comes to winning tight election cycles, successful campaigns will be the ones that build a messaging strategy around macro-trends, not micro-exceptions.
While it may be true that a small handful of a tiny subset of insulated voters could be uniquely swayed by photos of the destroyed White House lawn, we need more than that! Here's the reality: we need to win majorities by building a massive tidal wave among the much larger swath of independents, centrists, and reasonable swing voters.
These are the people who are feeling the genuine pain of daily survival and need to see a distinct contrast between the parties. This is especially true (and challenging) when bad-faith actors try to suppress turnout by claiming "both sides are the same." (I think you know who I'm referring to.)
In the end, your proposal of spending our limited resources, limited manpower, and limited time in chasing a small handful of niche voters at the expense of actually building a cohesive, high-impact national platform is a fundamental strategic mistake.
Sadly, we have reached an impasse. It is clear to me we simply see political strategy through entirely different lenses. I've laid out my thoughts as clearly as I can, and I have no desire to keep repeating myself.
So, at this point, I'll just leave it there and step away from this sub-thread. Have a great weekend.
mercuryblues
(16,583 posts)Showing a family at a grocery store, buying a box of Ramen, cut to this photo'
Trump cut food aid for the needy to build this? Your taxpayer dollars going to a ballroom, to feed the super rich, while your neighbors survive on Ramen noodles.
QueerDuck
(2,446 posts)I appreciate the pivot to an economic angle. Linking the physical mess to food aid and grocery prices is a much stronger approach than just looking at a landscape photo. However, this script still highlights the exact problem with purely negative, "shame on Trump" messaging. It stops halfway through the job. Here is why this format fails to move the exact disaffected and independent voters we need:
The Cynicism Trap: Disaffected voters already believe the system is rigged and that politicians favor the rich. Showing them a luxury ballroom while they buy Ramen noodles doesn't make them want to vote for us... it just reinforces their existing cynicism that "all politicians do is waste our money."
The "So What?" Factor: If an ad ends on a note of pure outrage about what Trump did, it leaves the independent voter asking, "Okay, so what are the Democrats going to do about my grocery bill?"
Failing to Build the Coalition: Purely negative ads that scold the opposition are great for firing up the base, but they do not motivate a non-voter to get off the couch. Swing voters and unmotivated independents don't just want to hear why the other guy is awful; they need a tangible, kitchen-table reason to believe their lives will actively improve under a Democratic majority.
I appreciate that contrast is a vital tool in campaign ads, but it only works if it serves as a bridge to our platform.
We shouldn't just point at their ballroom and say "gee, aren't they awful? tsk tsk, what a shame!" Instead, we have to explicitly tell the voter how we are going to lower the cost of their groceries and protect their family.
Without the proactive solution, its just finger-wagging that leaves the voter frustrated and holding a box of Ramen.
Diamond_Dog
(41,605 posts)Mr.Bee
(2,009 posts)One look at the oval office would indicate how insecure this man really is.
struggle4progress
(127,391 posts)GPV
(73,489 posts)OMGWTF
(5,289 posts)Well! Dafuq are we waiting for?
kentuck
(116,280 posts)And nobody seems to care...?
eShirl
(20,635 posts)guess he wants it to match his decaying corpse of a soul
RoeVWade
(985 posts)nt*
PatSeg
(54,217 posts)He is destroying as fast as he can and he still needs his naps.
allegorical oracle
(6,756 posts)Scaffolding and canvas drapes are being erected. Nobody could say what the plan is, but he's wanted to alter those columns.
He has no sense of history. When I was 12, my family visited the WH, and I was starstruck as I wondered what presidents had walked or stood where I was in the room.
He's a disgusting human.
Goonch
(6,078 posts)
ColoringFool
(1,530 posts)JPK
(1,025 posts)Satellites can take photos of the entire construction of The Bunker?
RoeVWade
(985 posts)nt*
ColoringFool
(1,530 posts)radical noodle
(10,760 posts)He sees no need for grass or roses or anything other than concrete and more concrete.
allegorical oracle
(6,756 posts)phobias?
Just saw a photo of a new gold scroll sign he's put up over a WH door. It reads, "The West Wing." It's possible he's a pathological labeling freak, which is why he has to have his name on everything. A shrink would have a field day with him.
radical noodle
(10,760 posts)I shudder to think what evil someone would discover in his mind.
OMGWTF
(5,289 posts)Grim Chieftain
(2,415 posts)Both parties have enabled the desecration of our White House. It is unrecognizable. Apparently if you are a thirty-four-time convicted felon you are truly above the law.
if..fish..had..wings
(886 posts)before he does any more damage
FakeNoose
(43,317 posts)For reference, the East Wing is to the left of the main White House building, the West Wing is on the right.

(Wikimedia photo credit)
It makes me so sad to see this picture.
Baitball Blogger
(52,976 posts)Hope22
(4,986 posts)Or just the madman .the line was everything he touches dies but in truth he kills everything he touches!
Dave Id
(386 posts)The "Beast" with the wheels and tires removed sitting on cement blocks. Welcome to the neighborhood.
OMGWTF
(5,289 posts)milestogo
(23,448 posts)Bumbles
(629 posts)One can wish.
nt
karin_sj
(1,399 posts)It looks horrible, and comparing the before and after, it also looks like a lot of trees have been removed. Idiocracy is definitely here now.
FakeNoose
(43,317 posts)I can't tell whether trees on the Ellipse (half circle front lawn) have been been taken down. It looks like part of the grassy area is being reseeded, however it's hard to say for sure. By the old East Wing there is an area of grass that's paved over for the construction vehicles.
SpankMe
(3,823 posts)CaptainTruth
(8,340 posts)...& every penny needed to rebuild & repair it.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,473 posts)usonian
(27,459 posts)
liberalla
(11,321 posts)Just horrible... very much reflects the current decrepit occupant. Very sad, but also enraging...
Torchlight
(7,404 posts)and given his taste in decor, he's just the guy to do it.
Martin68
(28,406 posts)Martin68
(28,406 posts)Emile
(44,312 posts)jmowreader
(53,595 posts)...is there is enough room on the White House property that he could have built his ballroom without tearing down ANYTHING.
Vinca
(54,631 posts)he's destroyed must then commence. It will cost a fortune to fix, too.
Jack Valentino
(5,407 posts)allowed to move in...
MissouriDem47
(470 posts)The White House Lawn is currently in worse condition than it was in the movie, "Idiocracy".
How do you make your comment bold in the Reply text?
Lokilooney
(324 posts)If your upset a part of the white house was destroyed then part of you does want a king.