If he dies, don't think Vance won't be worse

[SamuelTheThird]

At least domestically...

https://newrepublic.com/post/211828/trump-close-suspend-constitutional-right-habeas-corpus

Last year, the Trump administration was considering suspending the constitutional right of habeas corpus, The New York Times reports.

Some officials pushing President Trump’s mass deportation agenda, chiefly White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, wanted to get rid of the key right, which compels the government to explain in court why it has detained a person. Miller’s goal was to prevent immigrants in government custody from receiving hearings or court orders blocking their deportation.
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After Alex Pretti was killed by federal agents in Minnesota in January, administration officials, led by Vice President JD Vance and Miller, revived the idea of using the Insurrection Act

[Torchlight]

1. From my chair, Vance doesn't have the pull or leverage to be any worse

Dumber? Sure. More irrational? Most certainly? Worse? Not enough juice.

[Blue Owl]

27. Don't let JD too close to your chair

If there’s not a couch nearby, he might get desperate

[bamagal62]

28. Unless he's a plan and they've

Rigged everything to keep their agenda going. Thats my worry about him.

[hlthe2b]

2. Vance is so arrogant, he turns off even his own "supporters"... I don't see Congress giving him

the same "free pass" they've given Trump--at all. Yes, Trump is arrogant too, but he does apparently exude some kind of "charm" that most of us are immune too, but it does exist for some.

[SheltieLover]

3. Cults do not transfer allegiance.

[ZDU]

4. Hear, hear!

[SheltieLover]

5. Look at st charlie as an example.

[ZDU]

7. Very well said!

[SheltieLover]

9. Thx. It's true. When slobby croaks, the spell will be broken.

[ZDU]

21. On that day many of us will dance with joy!

[SheltieLover]

22. Yes! And the whole world will be dancing in the streets!

[Quiet Em]

12. Exactly. JD will not get the cult following and he will not have the media

falling all over themselves to normalize anything he does.

[SheltieLover]

13. Agreed, Em!

[eppur_se_muova]

16. Said Kim Jong {fill in blank} nt

[bamagal62]

29. True dat!

[ZDU]

6. Cults gonna CULT

When he's dead, this shit will spiral..

I can hardly wait for the fallout.

Queue the Rubenesque Ladies!!!

[SheltieLover]

10. Yup & I hope & trust magats will crash land from their toxic masculinity high

[Aristus]

20. There are going to be Rubenesque ladies there?

I'm in!

[ITAL]

8. He doesn't have the fanatical loyalty

I've never seen anything like the way that core group of republicans (I'm not talking about politicians, but ordinary people) rally around Trump. Those people are the ones that keep the politicians in DC in line, since they primary out whoever is perceived as a thorn in his side. So from that stand point Vance won't be worse, because he doesn't have that hold on people. Maybe he'd WANT to be worse, but he doesn't have that following, so the congressmen and senators won't be afraid of going against him and losing their careers as a result.

[pat_k]

11. In addition, Vought is already implementing the worst of the Vance/Thiel ....

... Christian Nationalist agenda that he can get away with backed by the felon's hold on the party.

The "worst" Vance would do has been/is being done already.

[bamagal62]

30. Unless they give him

The keys (tapes) to the kompromat that Trump apparently has. There has to be something other than just losing their seat.

[ITAL]

32. No, it's losing their seats

Every single time a republican goes against them he ends their career.

[WmChris]

14. They have a deep bench

That cadre is made up of republican highly unqualified, bigoted, misogynistic, phony christian, asshats all looking to enrich themselves on the backs of the American people. When he goes nothing changes but the names of the drifters in charge.

[J_William_Ryan]

15. The fascist right doesn't need a leader.

Trump is the product of decades of a conservative assault on democracy and the rule of law.

Consequently, Vance would be as bad if not worse.

[Kaleva]

18. Cult of personality is a central part of fascism.

Along with most every other form of authoritarian government.

[Kaleva]

17. He doesn't have the loyalty from MAGA that Trump has

[lindysalsagal]

19. I doubt scotus will bow down to any other Republicans. The protection

Rackett was personality driven by djt's fear of prison. He bought off scotus, but jd wasn't part of it. The rest of the cabinet has no protection from prosecutions and their lawyers will pull them back to norms and practices.

[Polybius]

23. At least the incredibly offensive insults would be gone

Vance won't compare the Obama's to apes.

[lame54]

24. He will in no way be as popular...

Or as forgivable
Excuses are made for Trump's behavior
Vance won't have that

[Maru Kitteh]

25. Vance will struggle w/the base, tank w/everyone else and move to the left

in a vain attempt to to save himself and he will do all this with the persuasive grace and sophistication he is known for. Which is to say, he will not do well.

[Sneederbunk]

26. Let's cross that bridge when we get to it.

[niyad]

31. As I keep saying, maybelline couchhumper is already the one

doing all the work, along with thiel and the other scum. The orange screwworm is the bright, shiny thing, and is far too lazy to do any real work. If krasnov stops wasting oxygen, the cult is not going to fall at jd's feet.