Graham Platner Owes You Nothing: You Either Want Democrats To Control The Senate Or You Don't

[DonCoquixote]

I am pissed at platner, but we need the senate

[RandySF]

1. Whether you support him or not

He’s still one of three primary candidates and it’s on him to earn support.

[Akakoji]

16. He already has earned my support. No way Mills doesn't get buried on Tuesday.

I can't vote for him, but I've been sending money. Mills has zero chance to win anything. I so wish people would stop falling for this garbage.

[RandySF]

17. Good for you.

[gulliver]

2. Mills needs to get back in

...if we want the seat.

[mr715]

3. Mills will not win either the primary or the general.

She has no money, and look at the polls.

If she couldn't hack 3 town halls, she won't beat Collins.

[Ars Longa]

36. She couldn't bother to get out of the chair in her living room

to have townhalls with her constituents…

[mr715]

37. I supported her until it became clear she didn't want the job.

She ran a 'campaign' as though she were owed something.

[NoRethugFriends]

7. Jesus! The election is in three days. What the hell don't you understand.

[Intractable]

19. ...

[bushalert]

4. Platner all the way!

[RetiredParatrooper]

5. ButT mUH pURiTy!!!!1111

'You want to win an argument. You don't want to win elections'.

Perfectly stated.

[delisen]

6. These authoritarian threats are tiresome Hawk

When you have to threaten democratic voters and call them names you are getting kind of , well, Trumpian.

Trump threatens us and calls us names because he hates democracy and wants to crush us while stealing everything we have.

I think you are just angry because you see a plan for victory possibly slipping away.

If you want to influence democrats I think it best to just make your case without the attacks and insults

[MorbidButterflyTat]

11. That guy looks like he just woke up from a two week bender

Don't think I need to listen to that.

[Sympthsical]

8. Absolutely fucking terrible message

I'm fairly chill about the Platner stuff (and frankly tired of it dominating discussion forever and ever of late).

But, no. No one - anywhere - should be telling voters a candidate or politician owes them nothing.

Politics is not a fandom. Platner is not Chappelle Roan.

Politicians earn votes. He will either persuade people or he will not.

Platner's probably going to win Tuesday. And that's fine. If/When he does, then let's get Collins out of there.

But foul-mouthed diatribes from what looks like a half-unhoused alcoholic is not it. Nice applause video for people on social media, but for the love of god, never show this to actual Maine voters. There are probably people either on the fence, unconvinced, or uncomfortable with voting for Platner who can be nudged into ultimately doing it in the general.

You don't manage that via this mess.

"This politician owes you nothing" is the absolute antithesis of both Democratic and democratic thinking. Terrible. Not just terrible, stupid. This man is stupid. I do not want this man in contact with voters. Ever.

[Quiet Em]

25. I'm glad you said this

Really stupid message. I don't think this message does the Platner campaign any good.

[Sympthsical]

28. If I were a Maine voter and someone showed me this video

I would be sorely tempted to vote against Platner in the primary out of pure spite. A politician owes voters nothing? Well, bub in the unabomber cabin, voters owe politicians even less.

His "fans" have not been doing him any favors in the past week. I haven't loved how any of this is going down at this late stage. But now the pendulum is swinging in the other direction, where it's like, "Ok, but I don't want to be associated with these people either . . ."

Who's that third guy? Can we still go with that third guy?

That's what's been kind of a little funny about this. Mills is a non-entity in this race. Lacks all charisma and energy. There's a third option standing right there, and absolutely no one has tried to promote him in any meaningful way.

It feels like the two sides are getting addicted to the moderate vs. progressive slapfight as proxy for the party at large. Which I get. But they're all being weird about it now.

[Quiet Em]

34. Exactly.

Very well said.

[mr715]

38. Competitive exclusion

The third guy is a progressive and that bumps against Platner who has more press, more money, and has actually done the foot work.

Maine voters, based on the polls, like what Platner is selling.

There simply is no niche for Costello to occupy.

[LisaL]

13. I guess it's not like females can vote or anything?

[MineralMan]

22. Women. Any female human who can vote

Is a woman. Using "female" as a noun is a misogynistic habit. Women vote. They are female citizens. Female is a adjective, not a noun, when speaking of human beings.

[LisaL]

27. Dictionary defines "female" as both adjective and a noun.

Female
noun
: a female person : a woman or a girl

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/female

And yes, by all means, lets debate correct use of word female rather than certain candidate's issues.

[MineralMan]

31. Cops and military people use females.

Thinking people do not. People who care do not. "FEMALES" is dehumanizing.

[LisaL]

32. I am neither a cop nor a military person.

And I always considered myself a thinking person.
Oh yea, and I am a female.

[MineralMan]

33. Do as you please.

I'll use women instead. I don't dehumanize women.

[sheshe2]

35. Gurl...

+1000.

[ColoringFool]

21. 1.) This Is A Site To Support Democrats, "Class-First Populist" Or Not. 2.) Your...

terms "feminist Democrat" and "female Fortune 500 CEOs" are intended to be denigrating, are they not (rhetorical)?

3.) Your claim to know not only what "non-college educated whites" think but also that they think it "justifiably" is quite the patting-of-one's-self-on-the back-type clairvoyance.

4.) That you apparently believe your example of what Democrats "care more about" AND that such an example is...justifiable, IS PATENTLY ABSURD BORDERING ON BIZARRE.

How DARE you posit that Democrats have not historically been on the side of and have since 1935 been trying to pass legislation to help the "non-college educated," the downtrodden, the working poor, the hungry, the infirm, the elderly, the homeless (Kamala had a well-considered housing plan): Social Security; Medicare; Medicaid; SNAP; Workmen's Comp; Unemployment Benefits; Minimum Wage; Child Labor Laws; OSHA; the ACA; the now-defunct Biden Capping of Insulin Costs; and more.

[Pris]

26. another male president. We have had plenty of that

Your post is classist and sexist.

[obamanut2012]

29. What is a corporate feminist Democrat?

[Initech]

10. Damn right! Fuck Fox News and what they want.

The GOP has literally given us nothing and now we're stuck with the most toxic and vile administration in United States history, they all must be fired.

[Redleg]

12. This is what Trumpism has helped bring about

A race to the bottom. While we have always had flawed politicians, it seems to me that more of these fuckers are running for office and in some cases, winning elections. Our tolerance has grown for these flawed fuckers and we are willing to support them if we think they will win. I don't know if we will be able to change this sorry course we're on.

[LisaL]

14. For sure.

How low can we go?

[milestogo]

15. Another binary choice.

[ColoringFool]

18. Fetterman Agrees.

[MineralMan]

20. Does anyone in this thread vote in Maine?

I rest my case.

[ColoringFool]

23. Hawk, The OP's Video Guy, Does Not. I Rest MY Case.

[Quiet Em]

24. If a Maine voter comes across this message do you think it will sit well?

Really stupid GOTV message if you ask me.

[Blue Full Moon]

30. Republican smear campaign

I guess republican propaganda is now allowed. The woman accusing Platner is a Heritage Foundation operative. Said that democrats were just smearing Kavanaugh.