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Republicans vote for a rapist felon while Democrats squabble over imperfections. (Original Post) dalton99a 2 hrs ago OP
We couldnt vote for John Glenn or Gary Hart Johonny 2 hrs ago #1
rePUKES are much better at ratfucking wolfie001 1 hr ago #21
THIS orangecrush 31 min ago #37
It's an old story. marble falls 2 hrs ago #2
Rape apologists and liars are not exactly "imperfections", in my book, niyad 2 hrs ago #3
Eh, people aren't squabbling over imperfections Sympthsical 2 hrs ago #4
+3 Emile 1 hr ago #7
No. We're talking about bad judgment. Quiet Em 1 hr ago #8
Honest question Sympthsical 1 hr ago #12
There is a history of dishonesty, bad actions and bad judgment Quiet Em 1 hr ago #13
Yes, I don't think it's a good idea to nominate someone LisaL 1 hr ago #17
And while we're looking for perfection, MAGA and Pukes win time and fucking time again paleotn 1 hr ago #14
I think we are nowhere near perfection with this guy. LisaL 1 hr ago #15
He's nowhere even close to that range, Quiet Em 1 hr ago #19
You want Susan then and more Republican agenda. paleotn 1 hr ago #22
No. I don't want Susan Collins. Quiet Em 1 hr ago #25
At this point, you have two alternatives. paleotn 1 hr ago #27
Your point sounds exactly like Nina Turner's Quiet Em 55 min ago #31
Life, reality doesn't care what you don't care for. paleotn 50 min ago #33
No shit. Did you read the rest? paleotn 1 hr ago #20
Nobody is asking for perfection Quiet Em 1 hr ago #18
Welcome to an imperfect world. You damn sure better get use to it. paleotn 1 hr ago #26
Nobody finds six more years of Susan Collins appealing Quiet Em 11 min ago #48
Yep indeedy RetiredParatrooper 1 min ago #49
Question SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #29
'Imperfections'? sheshe2 2 hrs ago #5
Or Susan and the Republican agenda. Our choice. paleotn 1 hr ago #16
You should tell that to sheshe2 31 min ago #38
DURec leftstreet 1 hr ago #6
We also knife incumbents in the back. nt. BootinUp 1 hr ago #9
"We are oft to blame in this... Torchlight 1 hr ago #10
But look where this felon got us. LisaL 1 hr ago #11
Ugh wolfie001 1 hr ago #24
Vote for Platner or shoot yourself in the foot. Again wolfie001 1 hr ago #23
The latest "foot shooting" incident if you been keeping track as they go by. paleotn 1 hr ago #28
Exactly SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #30
Every election cycle. The same thing. paleotn 51 min ago #32
This happened early in the marriage orangecrush 35 min ago #34
We hold ourselves to a higher standard because we can and we should Grim Chieftain 34 min ago #35
We're going to hold ourselves to losing a majority orangecrush 27 min ago #40
We all want the perfect candidate. Guess what? There is no such thing. Platner is flawed, like all the others. Fil1957 32 min ago #36
Much of this controversy is astroturfing by the usual suspects: the same who smeared Mamdani Ponietz 30 min ago #39
Republicans are goal oriented and the ends justify the means, any means dlk 21 min ago #41
We can bask in our purity orangecrush 20 min ago #43
The gloves came off a long time ago dlk 13 min ago #46
Should We Also Have A Low Bar? Your Definition Of... ColoringFool 20 min ago #42
Why Are Some Of You Convinced You Know To Whom The OP.... ColoringFool 16 min ago #44
Yep perfect example is Graham Platner oldmanlynn 13 min ago #45
The rules of politics have been re-written a long time ago. Scandals are normalized now. TheSphinx 12 min ago #47

Johonny

(26,697 posts)
1. We couldnt vote for John Glenn or Gary Hart
Sun May 31, 2026, 09:41 AM
2 hrs ago

But they voted for Nixon, Reagan, and Trump twice.

Republicans have no morals or ethics at all. It's fucking scary.

wolfie001

(8,053 posts)
21. rePUKES are much better at ratfucking
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:38 AM
1 hr ago

That's their strategy and media companies are complicit.

Sympthsical

(11,150 posts)
4. Eh, people aren't squabbling over imperfections
Sun May 31, 2026, 09:46 AM
2 hrs ago

They're squabbling over their pick going over like a dry fart delivered during eulogy, and just want the world to know it should have listened to them!

I'm watching people compare sexting to drugging and raping women.

Yeah. That's just bitterness coming out without the executive function overriding it before the keys get tapped.

And I say this as someone who really doesn't want Becerra, but if it's him vs. a Republican, I'ma STFU about it.

Platner's going to be the candidate. People need to deal with it.

"Sexting!" from the same people who were all out of sorts that Cuomo lost to Mamdani.

It's excessively disingenuous.

Quiet Em

(3,068 posts)
8. No. We're talking about bad judgment.
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:10 AM
1 hr ago

Bad character. Bad actions.

MAGA overlooks that sh*t. Doesn't mean everyone has too.

I didn't like Cuomo either. I did and do fully support Zoharan Mamdani. Mamdani is an excellent representative. He doesn't belong in the same conversation.

Sympthsical

(11,150 posts)
12. Honest question
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:26 AM
1 hr ago

Would you rather:

A politician who sexted and whose marriage seems to have ridden that out?

Or! A politician with a clean personal life who enabled policy that left the employment of new mothers vulnerable, showed abject indifference to unions, supported tax breaks for the rich, etc. etc. etc.

It's a testament to our puritanical roots that we'll get all caught up in what is inconsequential personal behavior between two people while overlooking that the policies certain politicians support, the donations they take, and the lobbyists they give favors to that have far, far, far greater effects.

It feels like "bad character" is always over stupid shit, when the real large scale projects never seem to be down to "bad character." Politician votes for bad policies again and again, but hey, at least their marriage is nice?

When a crime has been committed, someone come find me.

Quiet Em

(3,068 posts)
13. There is a history of dishonesty, bad actions and bad judgment
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:32 AM
1 hr ago

I have never asked or expected a candidate to be perfect, but this is not even close to normal when you add it all up. This is like George Santos level.

This isn't stupid shit and it's quite offensive to suggest it is.

LisaL

(47,553 posts)
17. Yes, I don't think it's a good idea to nominate someone
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:35 AM
1 hr ago

with that many issues. That we know of.

paleotn

(22,848 posts)
14. And while we're looking for perfection, MAGA and Pukes win time and fucking time again
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:33 AM
1 hr ago

Look around. Do you want more of this?? Do you?? Seriously, DO YOU??? If we don't start using our fucking heads, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET!

Pukes don't care about their candidate's improprieties for one simple reason. IT'S THE AGENDA THAT MATTERS, not the candidate. You want more of THEIR agenda, then keep this shit up. In that respect, they're way smarter than many Dems. Way smarter.

paleotn

(22,848 posts)
22. You want Susan then and more Republican agenda.
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:38 AM
1 hr ago

That's what we're going to get with the shit. It's like Gaza all over again. Look where that got us.

Quiet Em

(3,068 posts)
25. No. I don't want Susan Collins.
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:44 AM
1 hr ago

Sadly we are likely to get more of this shit because it looks like we might nominate a very problematic candidate who needs to face her in the general election. I'm not comfortable with our odds.

paleotn

(22,848 posts)
27. At this point, you have two alternatives.
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:46 AM
1 hr ago

Neither are good. One's not as bad as the other. Make a choice. And while you're at it. Welcome to life.

Quiet Em

(3,068 posts)
31. Your point sounds exactly like Nina Turner's
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:59 AM
55 min ago

"You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit" - Nina Turner

I didn't care for her wrong and awful point then and I still don't.

I don't vote in Maine.

paleotn

(22,848 posts)
33. Life, reality doesn't care what you don't care for.
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:04 AM
50 min ago

Take it from someone who's had to eat a few "half" shit sandwiches.

paleotn

(22,848 posts)
20. No shit. Did you read the rest?
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:37 AM
1 hr ago

You want more of the Republican agenda? Do you? And when we get exactly that for voting stupid, don't come boohooing to me. I don't want to hear it.

Quiet Em

(3,068 posts)
18. Nobody is asking for perfection
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:36 AM
1 hr ago

nobody is looking for garbage either.

Shouldn't be too much to ask.

The MAGA way does not appeal to me at all and never will I am not interested in pursuing the MAGA way.

paleotn

(22,848 posts)
26. Welcome to an imperfect world. You damn sure better get use to it.
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:44 AM
1 hr ago

Does the Republican agenda appeal to you? Because that's what we're going to get if we play politics this way. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually think politics is some honorable activity. It isn't. People are imperfect and politics is a machiavellian business. But it's what drives policy. Pukes understand that, if little else. We screw ourselves.

But go on and do just that. Just don't come crying about the outcome. You'll get no sympathy from me.

Quiet Em

(3,068 posts)
48. Nobody finds six more years of Susan Collins appealing
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:42 AM
11 min ago

You do realize that what should have been an easier flip will now be quite difficult if Platner wins the primary, right?

Not a single Mainer has voted in the primary let alone in the general and I am not as confident as your are that Mainers will toss out Collins in favor of this unknown guy with all the baggage. It won't just be Democrats voting. Independents and Republians get to vote too.

RetiredParatrooper

(234 posts)
49. Yep indeedy
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:53 AM
1 min ago

Far too many Dems are fixated on hand-wringing over flaws than getting out and saving the GD republic.

Throw out the old rulebook - it's not useful to keep using it when the GOP set their copy on fire 40 years ago.

sheshe2

(98,617 posts)
38. You should tell that to
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:23 AM
31 min ago

Schiff, Franken and Hill.

These 'imperfections' keep leaking, lots of them and they are giving fodder to our enemy. Yes, we need that seat, and I am afraid we may lose it. I just wish we had a better vetting process and the big names that came out with immediate endorsements used it. That includes my Senator that I adore.

That said, I am hoping for the best in the primary and a huge Democratic victory in the general election.

Torchlight

(7,104 posts)
10. "We are oft to blame in this...
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:18 AM
1 hr ago

with devotion's visage, and pious action we do sugar o'er the devil himself.”

LisaL

(47,553 posts)
11. But look where this felon got us.
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:21 AM
1 hr ago

It's not like voting for felon turned out well, did it?
Maybe there are good reasons to not vote for the felon.

paleotn

(22,848 posts)
28. The latest "foot shooting" incident if you been keeping track as they go by.
Sun May 31, 2026, 10:49 AM
1 hr ago

We're also very good at circular firing squads.

paleotn

(22,848 posts)
32. Every election cycle. The same thing.
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:02 AM
51 min ago

Dems screwing themselves because fundamentally they don't understand politics. Politics is machiavellian at its heart and no amount of happy thoughts will EVER change that. It many times requires holding one's nose to advance the agenda. And it's the AGENDA that's important, not that Platner may have some improprieties. The only time those improprieties should come into play is if it will cost him the general AND if there's an alternative. There's not. Mills dropped out so hold your damn nose.

If you're not down with all that, what it takes to win, you don't get to do the governing part. Republicans understand that, if little else. The supposedly smart party many times does not and has a long, storied history of f'ing itself.

orangecrush

(31,279 posts)
34. This happened early in the marriage
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:19 AM
35 min ago

And his wife said they worked through it and it's nobobys fucking business, and said the campaign aide she confided in "spread malicious gossip".


"The wife of Maine Democratic Senate candidate Graham Platner said she was “deeply hurt” after details of her husband’s extramarital sexting became public Saturday, accusing a former campaign official and confidante of betraying her trust."

"“I know who Graham is,” Gertner said in a statement delivered through Platner’s campaign. “I know the man I married and the husband he has been to me on the best and the worst days of my life. That hasn’t changed, and it won’t.”

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/30/politics/graham-platner-wife-campaign

The way the press is presenting this seems to be intended to destroy the campaign.

The headlines are misleading.

They really are using every tool in their ratfucking box to prevent a Democratic majority.




orangecrush

(31,279 posts)
40. We're going to hold ourselves to losing a majority
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:27 AM
27 min ago

We can bask in our purity as we are rounded up by the secret police.

Fil1957

(915 posts)
36. We all want the perfect candidate. Guess what? There is no such thing. Platner is flawed, like all the others.
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:22 AM
32 min ago

However, we're only talking texts. Bad taste, lewd, but in the final analysis, in the big picture, inconsequential.

The culture in America has changed. Things that were socially unacceptable decades ago, though still frowned upon, carry less of a taboo today.

One good thing about this revelation, is that it's coming out now, and will have been flushed down the memory hole well before November.

The main question has to be, would the country be better served with Susan Collins or Graham Platner? What is worse, Collins voting with Trump 96% of the time, or Platner sexting last year?

Ponietz

(4,457 posts)
39. Much of this controversy is astroturfing by the usual suspects: the same who smeared Mamdani
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:23 AM
30 min ago

dlk

(13,370 posts)
41. Republicans are goal oriented and the ends justify the means, any means
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:32 AM
21 min ago

Democrats not only view the goal but the journey, as well.

As the cliché goes: to victor belongs the spoils

ColoringFool

(1,183 posts)
42. Should We Also Have A Low Bar? Your Definition Of...
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:33 AM
20 min ago

"Imperfections"?

If you mean adultery, we've been known to overlook that particular private transgression, to the ultimate good of the country.

If you mean harassment, assault, coercion, yeah, no.

If you mean financial crimes, another hard no.

ColoringFool

(1,183 posts)
44. Why Are Some Of You Convinced You Know To Whom The OP....
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:38 AM
16 min ago

Refers??

Moreover, anyone who thinks "The end justifies the means" is anything less than REPREHENSIBLE AS A POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY has not been paying attention to its historical manifestations.

oldmanlynn

(854 posts)
45. Yep perfect example is Graham Platner
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:40 AM
14 min ago

Democrats will squabble over some text messages he may have received or some tattoo he had from a long time ago and decided not to go vote for him and hand it over to Susan Collins before they vote for him because of their squabble over being perfect. Dems have to vote for Dems no matter what.

TheSphinx

(3 posts)
47. The rules of politics have been re-written a long time ago. Scandals are normalized now.
Sun May 31, 2026, 11:42 AM
12 min ago

Pre - Nov 2016 a text or rude comment would have ended a GOP politicians career forever. Today that would probably get them a promotion. After seeing Trump win despite being the most disgusting piece of shit in history, MAGA has been operating under these new rules since then.

Dems are still stuck in 2005 with their "standards". Better get with the times, get tough and win elections like the other side.

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