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Botany

(77,906 posts)
Sun May 24, 2026, 12:38 PM Yesterday

Way to go Donny! Is this part of Trump's, "You'll get so sick of winning you will beg me to stop winning?"

David Shuster @DavidShus... • 2h S: According to Al Jazeera, the Iran deals includes unfreezing billions in Iranian funds, lifting U.S. blockade, pulling U.S. forces away, reopening strait of Hormuz though with tolls to Iran, and allowing Iran to keep its enriched uranium. This would be a total U.S. surrender.

nice job, Donald Trump

George Conway ⚖️🇺🇸 (@gtconway.bsky.social) 2026-05-24T00:38:45.202Z


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Way to go Donny! Is this part of Trump's, "You'll get so sick of winning you will beg me to stop winning?" (Original Post) Botany Yesterday OP
"Allowing Iran to keep their enriched uranium" how will he lie about this? spanone Yesterday #1
No way to spin it but it will be fun to see the Trump team and Fox News try to put lipstick on that pig. Botany Yesterday #4
They don't care as long as gas prices go down. dem4decades Yesterday #8
Funny you should mention that.... paleotn 23 hrs ago #23
Although not fooled 23 hrs ago #25
Can't. It's a matter of supply. paleotn 23 hrs ago #34
The price of oil will be higher just because of the fee that Iran will now charge on all shipping that goes ... Botany 23 hrs ago #30
Iran can make that argument if they want, but leaving the middle east should be more than the US can accept Renew Deal Yesterday #17
When Donnie is holding few, if any cards, he doesn't get to press that point. paleotn 23 hrs ago #24
I think that H2O Man 23 hrs ago #33
Always a LOSER vapor2 Yesterday #2
But he promised us he will always be winning Botany Yesterday #3
Kick dalton99a Yesterday #5
And Colbert just crushed it on the Monroe, Michigan public access tv. Botany Yesterday #7
so funny barbtries Yesterday #22
Thanks for sharing! yellow dahlia 17 hrs ago #37
You Misunderstood ProfessorGAC Yesterday #6
Wow, donny dipshit did it again. He is such a LOSER. Figarosmom Yesterday #9
I don't care how much the proposed agreement hurts or helps Trump. I don't care how many people dislike the agreement, Fil1957 Yesterday #10
His plan: Divert attention to Cuba with an invasion while he surrenders rurallib Yesterday #11
Fine with me, just get the damn strait open ASAP! Fil1957 Yesterday #12
Will he give Obama credit for the same plan he tore up? multigraincracker Yesterday #13
Leaving the middle east was never part of the JCPOA (Obama agreement) Renew Deal Yesterday #15
This is a significantly worse deal than Obama's Wiz Imp Yesterday #16
Obama's peace plan with Iran was good and acceptable to all parties, but Chump HAD to tear it up FakeNoose Yesterday #19
He just can't stand out favorite Irish President. multigraincracker Yesterday #20
This one is worse. Way worse. paleotn 23 hrs ago #31
Removing naval forces should not be part of the deal Renew Deal Yesterday #14
What leverage does the US have? SamuelTheThird 23 hrs ago #26
Just say no Renew Deal 23 hrs ago #29
Good luck with that. paleotn 23 hrs ago #32
WE WON !!!!!!!!!!!! twodogsbarking Yesterday #18
For a touch of irony BaronChocula Yesterday #21
Exactly! The signing was a who's who of the Pacific War. paleotn 23 hrs ago #35
Thx for the clarification BaronChocula 16 hrs ago #38
A Fool's Errand.... C_U_L8R 23 hrs ago #27
A plane full of money. RandySF 23 hrs ago #28
That's what it took in Iraq to end the insurgency.... paleotn 22 hrs ago #36

spanone

(142,088 posts)
1. "Allowing Iran to keep their enriched uranium" how will he lie about this?
Sun May 24, 2026, 12:44 PM
Yesterday

He got nothing.

Botany

(77,906 posts)
4. No way to spin it but it will be fun to see the Trump team and Fox News try to put lipstick on that pig.
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:03 PM
Yesterday

From 1 month ago. Iran called Trump a loser to his face.

The Iranian Position: Tehran consistently pushed back against unilateral American demands, using the exact phrase that the losing side cannot set conditions. Iranian officials asserted that because the United States failed to achieve regime change or dismantle Iran's military and nuclear capabilities, any talks must be strictly between equals.

paleotn

(22,790 posts)
23. Funny you should mention that....
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:34 PM
23 hrs ago

They're not going down for months, perhaps a year. Getting oil and nat gas output anywhere near normal isn't as easy as opening the strait. It will take months to get the logistics sorted out (tankers and LNG carriers all in the wrong places - remember the covid impact on highly choreographed logistics.) Then there's getting crude and nat gas production back online which is a technically delicate process. Then there's repairing all the crude / nat gas infrastructure damage.

Next on CNN sometime in September, why the strait is open but gas prices are stubbornly high.

not fooled

(6,776 posts)
25. Although
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:37 PM
23 hrs ago

the oil industry benefits so much from having pukes retain control of Congress that they might play ball with krasnov and lower prices before the election. I have no idea whether this will happen but wouldn't surprise me.

paleotn

(22,790 posts)
34. Can't. It's a matter of supply.
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:27 PM
23 hrs ago

There's not enough global supply to take up all the slack lost from the Gulf even if Russia and US frack country cranked up to the max. Otherwise, the Gulf states wouldn't have nearly as much clout as they do. The only thing that will lower gas prices in the interim is demand destruction worldwide. That means a nasty recession for nearly everyone.

Botany

(77,906 posts)
30. The price of oil will be higher just because of the fee that Iran will now charge on all shipping that goes ...
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:00 PM
23 hrs ago

through the Strait of Hormuz.

Renew Deal

(85,395 posts)
17. Iran can make that argument if they want, but leaving the middle east should be more than the US can accept
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:34 PM
Yesterday

And if the US/Trump thinks that we should reduce global military presence, that is their opinion, but you don't do it as part of this negotiation. Do it in 1-2 years.

paleotn

(22,790 posts)
24. When Donnie is holding few, if any cards, he doesn't get to press that point.
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:36 PM
23 hrs ago

He'll be lucky to get Iran to agree on anything because they don't have to.

H2O Man

(79,287 posts)
33. I think that
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:26 PM
23 hrs ago

the felon will claim that "on going negotiations" that will be scheduled for the next sixty days is part of his "big, beautiful win." And of course that 60 days will be extended, again and again, until the public forgets about it. Keep in mind that it took the talented, capable diplomat John Kerry an extended period of negotiations to get the deal under President Obama. This administration has a couple of ass clowns representing them, and Netanyahu has Jared representing Israel. There is literally no way they can forge a deal nearly as good as Kerry got.

Botany

(77,906 posts)
7. And Colbert just crushed it on the Monroe, Michigan public access tv.
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:24 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Sun May 24, 2026, 06:21 PM - Edit history (1)

barbtries

(31,361 posts)
22. so funny
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:32 PM
Yesterday

i literally laughed til i cried.i think this Colbert dude has a bright future!

ProfessorGAC

(77,328 posts)
6. You Misunderstood
Sun May 24, 2026, 01:09 PM
Yesterday

You heard "winning". What he said was "whining"?
And he was right.
I'm plenty sick of all the whining!

Fil1957

(895 posts)
10. I don't care how much the proposed agreement hurts or helps Trump. I don't care how many people dislike the agreement,
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:06 PM
Yesterday

just sign the thing and get the damn strait open as soon as possible. Already, people around the world are suffering because of its closure, and that suffering is going to get much worse (including mass starvation) the longer Hormuz stays closed.

The trouble is, we still don't know how serious this "agreement" is. He could sign it, escalate or do nothing. All are equally possible right now.

rurallib

(64,846 posts)
11. His plan: Divert attention to Cuba with an invasion while he surrenders
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:06 PM
Yesterday

and has CBS and FOX proclaim a great victory by the greatest Prez ever!

Renew Deal

(85,395 posts)
15. Leaving the middle east was never part of the JCPOA (Obama agreement)
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:31 PM
Yesterday

This would go way beyond that.

FakeNoose

(42,498 posts)
19. Obama's peace plan with Iran was good and acceptable to all parties, but Chump HAD to tear it up
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:45 PM
Yesterday

Why? Because he's an asshole, that's why.

Now this new one, if it even holds, is nowhere near as good as Obama's. There's no guarantee that Chump will even honor it, and if he does, Iran might still reneg on it if they think nobody is looking.



Renew Deal

(85,395 posts)
14. Removing naval forces should not be part of the deal
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:30 PM
Yesterday

That would be a huge win for Iran. The only way you commit to that is Iran giving up long range missiles, which I can't imagine they would accept.

SamuelTheThird

(1,267 posts)
26. What leverage does the US have?
Sun May 24, 2026, 03:42 PM
23 hrs ago

Carpet bombing or an invasion = Iran destroys the Gulf's oil and water infrastructure

What can the US do?

Nada

paleotn

(22,790 posts)
32. Good luck with that.
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:18 PM
23 hrs ago

The great risk of starting this thing in the first place is we have no leverage unless a number of improbable things happened as a result. The primary one being regime collapse. That didn't happen. It was a long shot to begin with. So now we have no options. Not even paper ones since we've been shown to be a paper tiger for all the world to see. No options short of a full US military mobilization which is politically and economically suicidal. And Gulf fossil infrastructure would catch even more damage, perhaps irreparable, and we may still not win it.

There's a very good reason no US admin since Reagan attacked Iran militarily no matter what Iran was up to. It's a trap. Geographically and economically. Donnie was stupid enough to go there. Now, we have no viable options other than take the best bad deal we can get and hope for the best.

Sometimes shooting is the worst possible option you can take. The blowback can be immense and last for generations. We're now living exactly that.

twodogsbarking

(19,419 posts)
18. WE WON !!!!!!!!!!!!
Sun May 24, 2026, 02:42 PM
Yesterday

Help, I am rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off and I can''t get up.

paleotn

(22,790 posts)
35. Exactly! The signing was a who's who of the Pacific War.
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:31 PM
23 hrs ago

Our John McCain's grandfather.

BaronChocula

(4,792 posts)
38. Thx for the clarification
Sun May 24, 2026, 10:40 PM
16 hrs ago

Even I was misremembering thinking that John Sr was the senator’s father. Forgot about old Jack McCain.

Man, woman, camera, tv.

paleotn

(22,790 posts)
36. That's what it took in Iraq to end the insurgency....
Sun May 24, 2026, 04:37 PM
22 hrs ago

"The Surge" was a cover for just buying off the Sunni sheiks and having them turn on the insurgents. Way cheaper in treasure and blood. Turned out, Petraeus had the best plan for getting us out of THAT mess. We could have done the same with the Taliban and avoided 20 years of fruitless war. They weren't unreasonable. It was only a matter of zeros. As it turned out, Bin Laden was the most expensive wanted man in human history.

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